Win 10 Questions

[HarryTaco]

Wow, so its been a long time since I posted.  

 

Here's the deal.  Over a year ago, I bought ALOT of new hardware for building a new computer.  I bought a 4790 guaranteed to run @5ghz.  I bought MSI Z97 series mobo, Corsair Vengeance RAM, two GTX9770's, New SSD and 1terrabyte HDD.  ALSO a lot of other hardware like a new case and some water cooling stuff for the CPU.  I will put an everday OC on the CPU.

 We are all overclockers here to one degree or another.  Here is my problem with Win10.  I went out shopping Win10 today as I really will do the build now, immediately.  I am reading horror stories about Win10 not allowing MB overclocks and other disturbing issues about lack of control over certain items.  I hate to be disturbed, when I am gaming, with some self-important update from Microsoft. Taken care of on win7, but not so sure about win10.

As Gamers and Overclockers here, most guys are doing their own custom builds.   What can I hope to expect with a purchase of Win10?  Should I just buy another Win 7 pro? I know Win10 will support directx12 but what good is that if I cant OC and tweak my system?  What good is Win10 if it is going to use Hardware resources and bandwidth to report all my Metadata to some greedy advertisers.  What about all those unneccesary mobile apps that you cant get rid of that Microsoft thinks you need on your PC?  Are these issues we can deal with or not?

I have enough experience with Windows OS's to get my self in trouble and occasionally succeed to changing things up.  Are there any OS Wizards here that might lend a little knowledge on how to tweak Win 10 to make it behave?  Is this even necessary?  Common you guys, I know who the smart men are here.  Give me some answers, hehe.

 

Humble thanks in advance.

[bp9801]

I haven't had an issue with overclocking on Windows 10, both BIOS and within the OS. Updates will prompt for a reboot if you're in something fullscreen and it's ready, but you can either let it update and reboot when you're not using it or just reschedule it for a different time. Updates can also be set so they're only shared on your local network instead of online, so your PC won't be a seeder.

 

Not sure what mobile apps you're referring to, as the only thing really is a Phone Companion so you can sync stuff between your PC and Windows Phone/Android/iOS device. There's the Windows Store stuff, but that's been present for a while.

[HarryTaco]

@bp8901,

Thank You. Yes, this is the kind of user experience, I am wanting to get out of this thread.  If you have time can you expound on the "Windows Store Stuff" ??

No problems running the OS on the SSD and playing all my games from the HDD??

I am reading about people stuck in an endless bootloop that would require reinstall.  I am reading about people who are complaining about system performance degradation, after a few weeks of use.  I am hearing that Win10 will not let you do a defrag unless you are more than 10% fragmented.  I personally defrag my HDD after every game install and every major patch to any game I have.  Are there Windows 10 versions like Regular, Pro, and Ultra, that will give the user a more controllable interface?

[bp9801]

Windows Store has a bunch of programs and games, but you can use it or not. I've grabbed a few things from it, free stuff like the Netflix app, but it isn't something required to use. Much nicer than Windows 8/8.1, especially since programs like the PDF Viewer or Weather are windowed instead of fullscreen.

 

I have my OS on my SSD, games and others on the HDDs. No issues at all, not even for setting up directories on other drives (like Pictures or Music or Movies or whatever).

 

Never had an endless boot loop or any other problems. I did an upgrade from 8.1 to 10, went off without a hitch. If you're doing a totally clean install, should be no different than any other Windows OS install of the last several versions. Performance is fine, never had any loss or anything (people probably don't upgrade their video drivers or don't clean things out well enough before installing), and as for the defrag, Windows recommends you defrag if it's above 10%, but you can defrag at any point if you want.

[HarryTaco]

@bp9801,

WOW!  .    I am very satisfied with your answers.  I figure, if you can do it, I can do it too! hehe.  Well, I am secure enough to make a purchase now.  If it doesn't workout for me, it wont be the first time I lost money on an investment.  Nice Fallout sig.   I really liked that game.

[wevsspot]

You can turn off many of the W10 features that suck bandwidth and/or use resources without your knowledge.  W10 has been out long enough that there are several great online guides for improving privacy, reducing bandwidth and making W10 look and act the way that you want.

 

I've got four W10 machines now.  Two laptops, one gamer and one HTPC.  The gamer is overclocked.  I don't do any software overclocking but BIOS O/C hasn't been any different than BIOS O/C running a W7 machine.  Gamer machine also has SSDs in RAID0 configuration - OS and APPS on one array and games on another.  I also have two large backup HDD drives.  In my experience you don't have much too worry about with W10 and it just makes sense to incorporate the latest OS if you're doing a brand new build.

 

My only real complaints with W10 is that it gets married to your hardware, so you might need to jump through the MS Activation hoops if you ever do serious hardware changes / upgrades and the last big package of updates completely screwed up the audio drivers and audio configuration on my HTPC.  I was able to correct that after some trial and error.

[HarryTaco]

@Wevsspot,

Long time friend. I appreciate you chiming in on this thread.   That was the last question I had, concerning going into Regedit and turning off what I needed to do.  I think now its just a matter of learning how to navigate the OS and tweak it out the way I want to.  Its looking better now, thank you.

[cchalogamer]

There ARE some issues with Windows 10 and OCs, however the CPU you've got should be trouble free.  For example the Pentium G3258 on most motherboards will NOT boot OCed by default on windows 10, there is however a fix that involves deletion of one file and like magic it all works fine after that.  

 

Again to be clear I have NOT run into ANY issues with other Intel CPUs combined with Windows 10 just that one model.  

[wevsspot]

KWOK - here were my "go to" online resources when diving into the W10 world

 

http://www.windowscentral.com/10-tips-everyone-should-know-windows-10-technical-preview#slide2

 

http://www.howtogeek.com/224342/how-to-clean-install-windows-10/

 

http://bgr.com/2015/08/05/windows-10-privacy-security-tips-tricks/

 

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/windows-10-tips-and-tricks

 

http://www.inquisitr.com/2301994/windows-10-how-to-maximize-privacy-and-minimize-what-microsoft-collects-about-you/

[phil69]

I just spent a week trying to get Windows 10 to run right. Total waste. Microsoft upgrade program said my computer was fine for the upgrade. I went to the ASUS motherboard site and found out my board is one of those that are not compatible. I did a clean install of Windows 7 and couldn't be happier.