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Came up with the perfect idea. 

 

Take away all the guns and give people swords and clubs. It is way to easy to mow down a bunch of people with a sub machine gun, but it is really hard to get away with killing more than 5 people without getting caught, and the victims have a better chance of surviving. 

 

Crimes will be much harder to commit. People aren't afraid of a mad man with a sword/club so long as they don't get within 5 feet of the guy. 

 

Liberals get their gun control, conservatives get their right to protect themselves, and I get my wish of turning america into feudal japan. Everybody wins. 

 

 

.....jk. Except for the feudal japan thing. I think that would actually make things fun. 

A small number of people with box cutters took down the World Trade Center.

 

I honestly don't believe that any kind of regulation will stop mass killings.

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Depends on what right you're talking about and what town. I think smaller towns will have cops that will be like "screw this I'm not trying to take guns away, I want to keep my own". I'm sure in bigger cities it will be worse.

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and bigger cities tend to have the stricter gun laws ALREADY.

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I used to live in a very small town. After getting in a fight with my brother and being charged with domestic abuse for it, all my firearms in my home were to be seized. The following conversation ensued between me and the officer:

 

"Well sir, this is the only one in my name."

"What about the other three there?"

"They're my step-dads."

"I'm supposed to take them, but whatever. Just make sure they get out of sight, ok?"

 

So yeah, I agree there.

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I used to live in a very small town. After getting in a fight with my brother and being charged with domestic abuse for it, all my firearms in my home were to be seized...........

 

That's part of the problem with the gun control laws even right now.  Go read the fine text (in this case parts of the Brady Bill).  If you have ever plead guilty or been convicted of even a MISDEMEANOR DV offense you lose your firearm rights.  And carefully read what constitutes the "domestic" liability in the law.  It can apply to a parent / child - boyfriend / girfriend - husband / wife - common law relationships - or any relationship where the two parties have born children together.  And get this, the liability is applied retroactively - so say you plead guilty to a misdemeanor DV charge in 1990 (six years before the law went into affect) you've still lost your firearm rights.

 

In some states they can take away your firearm right if you've been convicted of habitual drunkedness, drug convictions etc. and the list goes on and on.  Even well intentioned gun control legislation will end up with so many twists and turns it will be impossible to determine the true affect until years after said legislation is passed.  But the darker side is that those that are currently pushing gun control and reform ultimately want private citizens completely stripped of their right to bear arms.  That is a fact.  

 

Consider that Biden has publicly stated that Obama is willing to take executive action (via possibly an EO) that completely over-rides the 2nd Amendment.  And in my mind this particular fight goes well beyond the 2nd Amendment and gun control.  If we allow the government (past, present or future) to violate the constitution on one provision or clause - what prevents them from doing it to another?

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Came up with the perfect idea. 

 

Take away all the guns and give people swords and clubs. It is way to easy to mow down a bunch of people with a sub machine gun, but it is really hard to get away with killing more than 5 people without getting caught, and the victims have a better chance of surviving. 

 

Crimes will be much harder to commit. People aren't afraid of a mad man with a sword/club so long as they don't get within 5 feet of the guy. 

 

Liberals get their gun control, conservatives get their right to protect themselves, and I get my wish of turning america into feudal japan. Everybody wins. 

 

 

.....jk. Except for the feudal japan thing. I think that would actually make things fun. 

As long as you take ALL the guns away. Mine, the criminals, the police and the military. Basically every gun on earth and the ability to produce them, then I will voluntarily turn in my guns. Until everyone on earth turns their guns in and the world forgets how to make them, I'll hang onto mine.

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 But the darker side is that those that are currently pushing gun control and reform ultimately want private citizens completely stripped of their right to bear arms.  That is a fact.  

 

 

Well, some do anyways.  A lot of them are sort of in the middle.  But that's how it is with anything, everyone pushing an agenda wants it all their way.  The Christian Right wants the countery run by their doctrine, the NRA wants pretty much all or nothing, the list goes on for both sides.  Usually it ends with compromise.

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From The Federalist papers #46, written by James Madison

 

"Extravagant as the supposition is, let it however be made. Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth part of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops. Those who are best acquainted with the last successful resistance of this country against the British arms, will be most inclined to deny the possibility of it. Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it. Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it."

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