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I 'd say you'll be happy with your choice, even with the 460's sli'd. Wish I had one more for my rig.<IMG class=bbc_emoticon alt=:cheers: src="http://forums.overclockersclub.com/public/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif">

 

The 460's SLI'd haven't given me any trouble except for in majorly new/graphically intensive/physx intensive games and I equate that to my stock clock'd Q6600 CPU bottlenecking things. GTA4 won't run higher than 15 FPS, Batman Arkham Asylum won't run over 30FPS, and Bulletstorm frequently locks up completely and gets to flip-book quality frame-rates on the lowest graphical settings possible.

 

 

Hopefully I can sell my old 9600 GT's and my old HAF 932 case and get some cash together for a new card or two in the Summer/Fall.

 

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Might be time to start reading what people want Tj, instead of trying to make them buy what you want.:mellow:

 

No I just needed to rephrase it. I meant to imply would this PC be used as a workstation at all. Like if he was taking a break from gaming would he be doing video editing or data encoding or anything like that. Basically I was trying to gather information as to if there would be a possibility he could actually use the extra cores of the 8150. If not, then go with the 1090t. Simple, except me rushing to get my lunch and writing it at the same time sort of made it confusing.

 

Other than that I honestly don't understand why the OP is asking for advice. To me, there is a right and a wrong answer to everything. To me, the right answer would be to tell us exactly why you have trouble with Intel. See if it is a real problem or just your luck. Figure out what the best plan is and THEN settle on AMD. I feel like he has already done the work himself, and the only thing we could advise him on is either spending money or saving money. Both chips will be good gamers so the only real difference would be is if he used his pc as a workstation while not gaming as he mentioned.

 

I honestly don't guide people to what I would want, because then I would be telling everyone to save their money and go get the 3960x. I am telling people that the reality of it is, an i5 2500K and a good z68 board (the ones I recommended were just to look like the asus rog mobo, they were not what I would really recommend otherwise) that you can afford will be a lot better for gaming than a phenom or a BD chip. It has been proven a thousand times over by reviewers, and it is pretty much fact that for the money, the 2500K is the best gaming chip on the market right now. I am only going to recommend what the numbers say to buy, and yes that is a i5 for the moment until AMD comes up with some amazing new driver that will fix BD. For 200 bucks, you aren't going better than an Intel chip.

 

If my advice is something the OP doesn't care to hear then so be it. I am not hating on AMD, and I was only trying to figure out if he could benefit from the 8150 at all. Other than that there is very little I have to say simply because there isn't much room to say anything at all.

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No I just needed to rephrase it. I meant to imply would this PC be used as a workstation at all. Like if he was taking a break from gaming would he be doing video editing or data encoding or anything like that. Basically I was trying to gather information as to if there would be a possibility he could actually use the extra cores of the 8150. If not, then go with the 1090t. Simple, except me rushing to get my lunch and writing it at the same time sort of made it confusing.

 

Other than that I honestly don't understand why the OP is asking for advice. To me, there is a right and a wrong answer to everything. To me, the right answer would be to tell us exactly why you have trouble with Intel. See if it is a real problem or just your luck. Figure out what the best plan is and THEN settle on AMD. I feel like he has already done the work himself, and the only thing we could advise him on is either spending money or saving money. Both chips will be good gamers so the only real difference would be is if he used his pc as a workstation while not gaming as he mentioned.

 

I honestly don't guide people to what I would want, because then I would be telling everyone to save their money and go get the 3960x. I am telling people that the reality of it is, an i5 2500K and a good z68 board (the ones I recommended were just to look like the asus rog mobo, they were not what I would really recommend otherwise) that you can afford will be a lot better for gaming than a phenom or a BD chip. It has been proven a thousand times over by reviewers, and it is pretty much fact that for the money, the 2500K is the best gaming chip on the market right now. I am only going to recommend what the numbers say to buy, and yes that is a i5 for the moment until AMD comes up with some amazing new driver that will fix BD. For 200 bucks, you aren't going better than an Intel chip.

 

If my advice is something the OP doesn't care to hear then so be it. I am not hating on AMD, and I was only trying to figure out if he could benefit from the 8150 at all. Other than that there is very little I have to say simply because there isn't much room to say anything at all.

 

 

I also stated in the first post that I was intending to avoid going with Intel

From all the research I've done today, I chose the 1090T as my musical producing/remixing ventures as well as gaming will be 100% satisfied by the AMD chip matched to the 990fx Crosshair V.

 

I appreciate your opinions, but when I state I want to avoid intel, I really don't need a rundown of the pros/cons of intel as it's not going to benefit what I was originally asking. That's like googling for a chinese place and getting directed to a greek sandwich shop. :blink:

 

 

Edit: when I saw "music production" it's usually just remastering a track that I've remixed or scratched and recorded onto my desktop through my Numark NS7FX turntable unit. That, or creating bassline samples for use in clubs. I will also be using this desktop to work from home from time to time and am going to be running things on both monitors. (Google Chrome/work apps on right monitor, Minecraft/Guild wars 1 on the left.)

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The 460's SLI'd haven't given me any trouble except for in majorly new/graphically intensive/physx intensive games and I equate that to my stock clock'd Q6600 CPU bottlenecking things. GTA4 won't run higher than 15 FPS, Batman Arkham Asylum won't run over 30FPS, and Bulletstorm frequently locks up completely and gets to flip-book quality frame-rates on the lowest graphical settings possible.

 

 

Hopefully I can sell my old 9600 GT's and my old HAF 932 case and get some cash together for a new card or two in the Summer/Fall.

 

:D

 

You know, have you thought about trying to sell your 460s right now? I bet you could get 200 or more for both cards, and I have seen some places have pretty good sales on the 6950 (210-230 USD). Maybe you could have your 6950 sooner than you thought ;)

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You know, have you thought about trying to sell your 460s right now? I bet you could get 200 or more for both cards, and I have seen some places have pretty good sales on the 6950 (210-230 USD). Maybe you could have your 6950 sooner than you thought ;)

 

 

I actually bought my 460's off here for about $300 (IIRC) which was an amazing deal. I'd trade them both for a single 6950 in a heartbeat.

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I also stated in the first post that I was intending to avoid going with Intel

From all the research I've done today, I chose the 1090T as my musical producing/remixing ventures as well as gaming will be 100% satisfied by the AMD chip matched to the 990fx Crosshair V.

 

I appreciate your opinions, but when I state I want to avoid intel, I really don't need a rundown of the pros/cons of intel as it's not going to benefit what I was originally asking. That's like googling for a chinese place and getting directed to a greek sandwich shop. :blink:

 

 

Edit: when I saw "music production" it's usually just remastering a track that I've remixed or scratched and recorded onto my desktop through my Numark NS7FX turntable unit. That, or creating bassline samples for use in clubs. I will also be using this desktop to work from home from time to time and am going to be running things on both monitors. (Google Chrome/work apps on right monitor, Minecraft/Guild wars 1 on the left.)

 

Now I need something to eat, mabey a donair pizza with some sweet&sour sauce.:biggrin:

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AFAIK, 6950s have dropped in price as of late and that's coming from a guy who lives in a country wherein most parts are 5-10% higher compared to prices posted in Newegg. Best bet is to sell those 460s of yours and buy a 6950. It would be better if it could be flashed to 6970. Though, you'd have to be lucky to find one these days.

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Why not sell the two 460's and buy a 7950?

 

I put the 460's on the OCC marketplace for trade/sale.

If I could sell them for the amount of a 7950 I'd get one, I haven't even looked at the prices of those yet.

 

Edit: $500 for the XFX 7950?!

 

So...uh....wow.

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The prices right now are a little steep, but once the nVidia cards come out it should plummet. If not the new nVidia cards will probably be pretty good, I think the 760 Ti is supposed to be $360.

 

If I get a trade for my 460's I'll take it for a 6950/6970, however if anything I will hold onto them and wait for the 79XX to drop in price and get those once I can save up some more scratch.

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If you are going to be mainly gaming with the rig the x4s are a better choice. For the CPU I would recommend the Phenom II X4 980 BE. It is almost half the price of the BD CPU you want to get and it performs better than the FX-8150 in many instances. The Zambezi might take the lead in multi-threaded performance, but its single and lightly-threaded performance is a disappointment to say the least. Furthermore, it will specialized software to take advantage of its XOP, FMA4, and CVT16 instructions, which there isn't many at the moment.

 

If the selection is between the X6 1090T BE and the FX-8150, I would choose the X6 over the FX-8150, as it out performs the FX-8150 in many of the benchmarks, it is cheaper, and a better gaming solution.

 

Also, it is good to note that the Phenom II X4 955 and above are basically the same chip with a higher default multiplier. Thus, in theory you could achieve 980 speeds with a 955 and above by simply adjusting the multiplier.

 

In addition, your GPUs should suffice your current gaming needs and IMO you may not need to upgrade for another generation.

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