tweakscene Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Hello guys. well here is the fail story,: 2 SSD Agiltiy 3 , 60Gb on Raid 0 on Rampage III extreme fails miserably. I hokked them up on the Sata 3 (red ports) and the raid seems to be set correctly from the bios. (drive xpert option) Windows 7 install ok even though the instalation is slower then on a single drive. After you log in for the first time it hangs on the booting animation. If I boot up the recovery console it wil fix the issue but when you reboot it hangs again. I need some help. Is it even possible to set up a RAID Sata 3 at the moment on a rampage 3 mobo? Thanks in advance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmb938 Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I don't see what would cause that issue. Have you made sure both drives work separately? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJR Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Is it even possible to set up a RAID Sata 3 on a rampage 3 mobo? Nope, just use them separately on the Sata3 ports. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweakscene Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 ok so I'm not doing anything wrong. why is it not possible to raid on sata3? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspevacek Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 I just went thru a very like instance with my MSI board. I did not try the drive seperately but I did move the SSDs to the SATA2 prots and my system is up and stable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogel Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Yes you can set up RAID 0 on your motherboard. I think this is a great guide and straight from OCZ: The Unofficial Forum Guide for XP/Vista and Windows 7 Operating Systems on OCZ Solid State Drives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJR Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 ok so I'm not doing anything wrong. why is it not possible to raid on sata3? Your board is using a Marvel PCIe 9128 controller for Sata3 interface, no raid capability. YES, you can raid your Sata3 SSD's on your grey Sata2 ports but that's just a waste because the throughput of just one of your SSD's alone will saturate it. Storage Intel® ICH10R controller : 6 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s), gray Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10 JMicron® JMB363 controller : 1 x eSATA 3Gb/s port(s), green 1 x SATA 3Gb/s port(s), black Marvell® PCIe 9128 controller : *2 2 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s), red Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogel Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) I have heard of performance hits using Marvell 9128 for RAID over Intel and I have heard of it not supporting TRIMS when in RAID configuration - to which seen some recommend MS AHCI. Looked into this after reading RJR's post as I know I have seen people with that motherboard use SSDs in RAID. Here is an example after a quick sanity check. After the quick research I still don't see anything to say it is not possible though it looks like it is not recommended. Seems people see around double the performance using the 3Gb ports. So while it looks like it is possible it looks like it is unadviseable. Especially since if people see twice the performance with the 3Gbs, and as RJR said a 3GB port won't even get full performance out of 1 SSD let alone 2 in RAID. Edited October 31, 2011 by Fogel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Seems people see around double the performance using the 3Gb ports. So while it looks like it is possible it looks like it is unadviseable. Especially since if people see twice the performance with the 3Gbs, and as RJR said a 3GB port won't even get full performance out of 1 SSD let alone 2 in RAID. Only the sequential read and write will be slower on the Intel controller (since they'll max out essentially all the time). It'll still be FAR faster with random reads and writes with 2 drives in RAID 0 even if they are slightly hobbled by the 3 Gbps ports. I'd bet with both in RAID 0 on the 3 Gbps controller he'll see consistent 500+ MB/s regardless of what he's doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweakscene Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 So would an external raid card handle a Sata 3 in raid 0 properly? I just don't get why you would spend $549 on a mobo that cannot even raid! (that's what I paid when it came out) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) So would an external raid card handle a Sata 3 in raid 0 properly? I just don't get why you would spend $549 on a mobo that cannot even raid! (that's what I paid when it came out) There's no point unless you really want to see big synthetic benchmark numbers. Just RAID them up on the SATA 3 Gbps ports. In real use the drop in sustained compressible rates won't matter at all but the random read/write rates will still be double what you could do with a single drive. The sustained read/write speeds for incompressible data will still be near 500 MB/s. Edited November 2, 2011 by Waco Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogel Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Well it looks like this board was released in 2010 around August so that might explain it. I don't know how popular SATA III was back then but I am willing to guess not much. I am guessing prices back then were astronimcal on 6Gb SSDs so making sure all controllers were covered and accounting for RAID was probably out of their scope for that generation. I really have no answer, just guesses. I would test both the 3Gb ports and 6Gb (if you get it to work) but from what I've been reading people report faster performance on the 3Gb ports. If it were me and I couldn't get RAID to work on the 6Gb lanes I would test RAID on the 3Gb ports and then try 1 drive separately on the 6Gb lane and see which gives me better performance. Being that they are Agility drives it probably is best to get them in RAID if at all possible but if you have the time it could be a worthwhile test both RAID on 3Gb and single on 6Gb. You should be able to feel the performance difference even without a benchmark tool but tools confirm what you feel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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