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Huffington Post reports that a bill just passed that "allows prosecutors to bring conspiracy charges against anyone who discusses, plans or advises someone else to engage in any activity that violates the CSA, the massive federal law that prohibits drugs like marijuana and strictly regulates prescription medication."

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I don't smoke either, it doesn't have a good effect on me.

 

But the thing is, I don't think it should be illegal to talk about. It's like making it illegal for minors to talk about alcohol.

 

But yeah, I'm all for legalization because at this point it's just getting silly.

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What the hell is this idiot doing trying to introduce bills for campaign purposes when we're facing serious problems? Just :mfp: :mfp: :mfp:

 

Not to mention it's among the most unconstitutional bills I've ever seen.

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http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112hr313.pdf?c112:H.R.1741: Seeing as the article posted decided to leave that out. Text in question:

 

‘(b) Whoever, within the United States, conspires with one or more persons, or aids or abets one or more persons, regardless of where such other persons are located, to engage in conduct at any place outside the United States that would constitute a violation of this title if committed within the United States, shall be subject to the same penalties that would apply to such conduct if it were to occur within the United States.’.

 

From http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h313/text. http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_10062011.html Gives more boring information.

 

Where's Kash when you need him? I have no experience in law, but it sounds like it's meant for actual conspiracy or coordination of working with drugs that are illegal in the US in means that are illegal in the US. As in, drug traffickers and other such people. I very much doubt that some of the scenarios the Huffington Post article brings up will ever hold up in a court of law, such as the doctor's being taken to trial.

 

Then again, it's the media.

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Here's my favorite part of the article.

If interpreted broadly enough, a prosecutor could possibly even charge doctors, academics and policymakers from contributing their expertise to additional experiments like the drug decriminalization project Portugal, which has successfully reduced drug crime, addiction and overdose deaths.

They should arrest some politicians just to make a point.

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http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/pdf/112hr313.pdf?c112:H.R.1741: Seeing as the article posted decided to leave that out. Text in question:

 

 

 

From http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h313/text. http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/mark_10062011.html Gives more boring information.

 

Where's Kash when you need him? I have no experience in law, but it sounds like it's meant for actual conspiracy or coordination of working with drugs that are illegal in the US in means that are illegal in the US. As in, drug traffickers and other such people. I very much doubt that some of the scenarios the Huffington Post article brings up will ever hold up in a court of law, such as the doctor's being taken to trial.

 

Then again, it's the media.

This issue is that the government is acting outside of what should be their jurisdiction. Who the hell is our government to decide what is or isn't illegal in other countries? If it was meant to only to apply to drug traffickers then they should have worded it that way.

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The point of the bill is to prevent people within the US using other countries as a way to get around US laws regarding drug control. Drug traffickers is one example.

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The point of the bill is to prevent people within the US using other countries as a way to get around US laws regarding drug control. Drug traffickers is one example.

And another example is the aforementioned Portugal drug decriminalization project. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with how you choose to interpret it, but this is another one of those laws that uses vague wording to basically allow the government to do whatever they want. It's like the Patriot act, except with drugs.

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