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Alright guys,

 

narrowed it down to these two cases for my build, lemme know which you guys think. Im using a corsair H60 cooler, but i may by next year switch to water cooling but it depends on if i really wanna go through the effort lol or if i really feel i need it haha. i was set on the 600T until i saw its width, and it is a fatty lol. my room in my apartment at uni next year is going to be pretty small so thats what made me a bit iffy on the purchase although it looks really sweet so its still something i consider. so yea, let me know which you guys think is the better choice. also, will the 650D look nice with cathodes? has anyone tried it?

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If you want water cooling then the bigger the case the better. Cold cathoides look good in almost any case, so you don't need to worry about that. :biggrin:

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I haven't water cooled before, but I have a 650D. I have cathode lighting in mine. See attached photos. Will you have 1 or 2 GPUs? I have one Diamond HD6970 and a Corsair AX850 power supply, both power houses, but I still have a lot of space. Plus, you can remove the hot swap drive bay to free up more space if you think you will only have 3 HDDs or SSDs.

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If you want water cooling then the bigger the case the better. Cold cathoides look good in almost any case, so you don't need to worry about that. :biggrin:

 

well the 650D is taller and has more room for a rad. but the 600T is deeper and a little wider, other than that their insides are identical.

 

I haven't water cooled before, but I have a 650D. I have cathode lighting in mine. See attached photos. Will you have 1 or 2 GPUs? I have one Diamond HD6970 and a Corsair AX850 power supply, both power houses, but I still have a lot of space. Plus, you can remove the hot swap drive bay to free up more space if you think you will only have 3 HDDs or SSDs.

 

wow that looks sick!!! haha how are you liking the case overall? and the airflow? i plan on sli in the future along with a soundcard, will i be ok?

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I built it about a month ago. The build was easy. Everything was black (screws, rivets, etc.). I was sold on the case after watching a number of videos showing (and touting) the cable management. Corsair puts in a lot of grommets and all in the right places.

 

Airflow is very good. I'm an aerospace engineer by training, so I have some background in airflow dynamics. Bottom line for me is looking for lots of open space and as few airflow bends as possible. The 650D has it.

 

I looked at the 600T, but preferred the all-metal structure of the 650D. The plastic bezel on the 600T was turning me off. I don't use the hot swap bay on the top or the fan control on mine, so that part didn't matter. I have my own front panel mounted fan controller. Regarding airflow, I have run Furmark tests and Prime95 and don't even hit 70 degC on my GPU and stay below 50 degC on my CPU. I have the stock 200mm inlet fan in the front. I replaced the top 200mm fan with two 140mm's, but I don't think it was necessary. As you see from the photo, I am using the Corsair H70 in a push/pull config for CPU cooling. I also have the Corsair RAM cooling fans. They actually knock about 4-5 degC off the RAM temps (I have 4x4GB), but they weren't very hot to begin with. All fans, except the RAM fans run around 900-1000 rpm and my case ambient temp is <25 degC. I have a Core i7-2600 (not the K), but changed the BCLK to 105.5, so I'm overclocking very conservatively to 4.0GHz (in Turbo). My GPU is slightly overclocked too. Bottom line is this is my business computer, so I need it stable. The reason for the extensive cooling is so I can keep my fan speeds really low and the sound even lower. Obviously, I need to get a good game on this thing and test it out.

 

Regarding a second GPU and sound card, I would think you'll be just fine. I still a newbie on builds, but I originally had two HD5870s in CrossFire and had plenty of room. They just couldn't handle my triple monitor set-up, so I replaced them with one HD6970. My only other add-on cards is a D-Link router and a USB 5-port card (both small).

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BTW, if you are adding cathode lighting, you can add a reflector. I picked up a 4"x10" sheet of ).008" thick aluminum from Ace Hardware (hobby shops carry these sheets too) for $1.79. They are usually in the same spot as small brass and aluminum tubes. The mfr is K&S. I cut it approx. in half lengthwise and bent it over a sharp edged countertop to get the reflector in the proper shape. To improve the reflectivity, I put a piece of Reflectix brand tape on the inside of the reflector. You could also use FlexFix tape. Both of these tapes are used to tape insulation that has a reflective coating on one side. They are also used by heating and air conditioning people for duct taping (this tape is definitely a step above duct tape). A roll costs about $3.99 (also from Ace). The tape has nearly a mirror finish. FlexFix is slightly more reflective, but they print their logo all over it. I then velcroed the reflectors into position around the light tubes. Lighting definitely improved in the case.

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I have a lot of respect for Cooler Master. They have a great rep. I looked at one of the HAF models and passed for the following reasons. Corsair had significantly better cable management (i.e. lots more grommets). As mentioned, I really wanted a real clean inside and wanted as many holes as possible in order to get the cables out of the box as soon as possible. The HAFX is still low on grommets. I thought the Cooler Master cases looked a lot more plasticky. I also thought it looked more gimmicky with the "tank-like" style. In my situation, I wanted and needed a more solid and cleaner look. Please keep in mind, however, that mine is going into my office. If I was buying a gaming computer, I would not be so critical of Cooler Master's looks -- I get the reason for making it look the way it does as compared to the Corsair which is probably more of an understated sleeper look. In my tuner days, my car was also black with no trim and totally un-blinged. A complete sleeper. I probably just like understatement. Positive sides to the HAFX is that they have a good reputation for cooling and LED fans don't hurt either. You'll certainly have plenty of space in it for future water cooling. I think the Corsair's price is due to the fact they are using almost no plastic on the case (just the feet as far as I can tell). Stamping and forming metal is more expensive than injection molding plastic. Doesn't mean plastic is bad, however.

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Haha yea il probably end up with the corsair mainly cause I see the cooler master getting tacky over time....the fact that its huge is both an upside and a downside. The upside is that I can throw whatever I want inside without any worry, but downside is that I'm a university student and for eight months of the year I live in an apartment with a room that isn't exactly huge so I guess it helps that the corsair is smaller yet big enough to hold most things I would throw at it. I'll probably go to the store and take a few looks. The only thing that worried me about the corsair was airflow, especially when compared to the haf....but apparently you have reassured me that the airflow is great :P

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Size matters ... especially when there isn't much room for size. You have a couple of options to improve cooling if for some reason you are still a little worried. First, replace the top exhaust 200mm with two 140s (or two 120s). You'll get more air out. Second, if you have a access to a hole saw and drill, you could cut a hole in the clear side panel, add four mounting holes and an inlet cover and install a side fan. Would probably look hot too. Cutting into Plexi is pretty easy. Just make sure you put a good quality tape all over the Plexi to keep from scratching it and you'll get a cleaner cut (less crazing on the edges). Then go over the hole with a nice grade of sandpaper to smooth out the edge. I might do that in the future just for kicks. There is plenty of depth for the fan and you could install it wherever you need to direct blow. I also wouldn't be surprised if Corsair comes out with a mesh grill kit like they did for the 600T. You might check with them to see if the 600T mesh panel is the same size as the 650D window. Check out Corsair 600T panel. Let me know if you contact them and if it works in the 650D. The side panel with window and mesh is $29.99. Can't believe the mesh alone (including vibration damping screws) could be more than $15.00. Good luck with the studies.

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Size matters ... especially when there isn't much room for size. You have a couple of options to improve cooling if for some reason you are still a little worried. First, replace the top exhaust 200mm with two 140s (or two 120s). You'll get more air out. Second, if you have a access to a hole saw and drill, you could cut a hole in the clear side panel, add four mounting holes and an inlet cover and install a side fan. Would probably look hot too. Cutting into Plexi is pretty easy. Just make sure you put a good quality tape all over the Plexi to keep from scratching it and you'll get a cleaner cut (less crazing on the edges). Then go over the hole with a nice grade of sandpaper to smooth out the edge. I might do that in the future just for kicks. There is plenty of depth for the fan and you could install it wherever you need to direct blow. I also wouldn't be surprised if Corsair comes out with a mesh grill kit like they did for the 600T. You might check with them to see if the 600T mesh panel is the same size as the 650D window. Check out Corsair 600T panel. Let me know if you contact them and if it works in the 650D. The side panel with window and mesh is $29.99. Can't believe the mesh alone (including vibration damping screws) could be more than $15.00. Good luck with the studies.

ive always wanted a case with a window so i should i be good with the wat either if them are :)

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