Tinkers Are The Enemy

[sykocus]

Yeah. My Athlon moves through those 70.9 point Tinkers at one frame in 4:40

but there are 400 frames in a tinkers as opposed to 100 in a gromacs.

[tazwegion]

but there are 400 frames in a tinkers as opposed to 100 in a gromacs.

Yeah but isn't it like 400 frames (Tinker) vs. 100 percentage steps for the Gromacs? <_<

[Dignan]

Comparing frames to percentages is like comparing apples and oranges

1) Slow and badly coded horrible point per hour ratio apples (tinker)

2) To sleek optomized blazing fast uber awesome oranges (gromacs)

 

Not a tinker fan myself, thank goodness for advmethods and forcesse

[ClayMeow]

thanks for that link...looks like i'm doing the 70.9 pointer also.

 

and taz is right....it's really like, every 4 frames of a tinker, equals 1 (percentage) of a gromacs.

 

So, for me at least, it seems to be taking 4 times as long, since it still completes a frame in the same amount of time that a gromacs completes a percentage. That absolutely sucks IMHO, as even though it's worth more points, i'd probably be able to make more with gromacs.

 

Dignan, i use advmethods and forcesse and i got a tinker, so that means ..

[Dignan]

Dignan, i use advmethods and forcesse and i got a tinker, so that means ..

Absolutely nothing....

 

Tinkers don't use optomizations like SSE or even the 3Dnow! boost. They are slow going at best.

 

By using advmethods you usually get beta proteins which are mostly gromacs (cuts the % of tinkers down I have found). So no good news really except it is worth 71pts...

[ccokeman]

Even using the flags you will still get both cores eventually. The tinkers are great for the points but you can do 3 to 4 Gromacs cores in the same time with more points awarded.

[sykocus]

there really isn't any objective way to compare tinkers speed vs gromac unless you figure out the points per hr for each wu if both cores. here's my personal favorite series of wu. only worth about 32 points but takes about 12 hrs for the whole thing, just about do two in the time it takes you to finish a 50 point one.