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I also wish that there would be a cross-platform system so that we, computer FPS gamers, could finally shut down the console FPS gamers.

 

What exactly do you mean by this statement?

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does no one remember shadowrun? that was a cross platform game and it did just fine. basically any FPS game is better with keyboard and mouse, ever tried playing a console FPS without lock-on? it sure isn't very fun.

 

I had heard about that game and wanted to get it but I never did. I never heard about any side having an issue between console and pc gamers. Although I don't think it was a very popular game anyways.

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PC Gamers pwn console gamers. I wish the multiplayer for MW2 crossed over, I would be 10th prestige by now from all the extra kills of the console gamers. :thumbsup:

 

Actually that happened.

 

PC Gamers hacked into the 360 Servers on MW2 - for awhile it kept putting 360 players into Private Matches. These private matches were hacked and had a different rule set than 360 games allow.

 

For the most part the PC Gamers did win, but it was fun to put those hackers in their place. Some took it well and others got pissed. :lol:

 

 

But if console gamers played with KB+M and vice versa, I bet the KB+M combo would yield the winners.

 

So this is daft - shouldn't it be more like:

 

KB+M players are too good for controller players in the FPS genre?

 

Otherwise, it's no contest. This is nothing new per se - FPS with a controller can be frustrating to say the least! But it's the best input device for racing, and platformers (in my personal opinion). The KB+M will always be best for FPS and RTS and the like. It's got nothing to do with the fact one is a console and one is a PC - just the input devices - and neither are really mutually exclusive to one or the other. Remember the PSOne had a mouse peripheral for Command and Conquer? As well as specialist KB+M devices are available for consoles now too, but not mainstream.

 

Exactly!

After learning to how to get good with FPS on console (MW2) my game really stepped up in FPS on PC even though I hadn't played any sort FPS in years - last was BF2. (didn't like 2142)

 

You give a gamer an input device of 5700 DPI (or greater) and of course they will do good. Like you said, it's all about the input devices more so than anything else. Although playing with both KB+M (most of the games I play) and playing with a controller (MW2) I also have to say that even in an FPS world there are some good things about controllers. Movement is very smooth and free flowing in MW2, so it takes advantage of the analog stick's range of movement.

 

Gears of War (which this article is based on) is very clunky - it is by far from smooth and the characters turn as if you're trying to make a U-Turn in a Semi-Truck. I can't comment on Unreal Tournament for the console, but Gears of War is not even a FPS ...it's 3rd Person (duck-n-cover) Shooter. HORRIBLE game to base this test on. Awesome game, I love it ...but not for this comparison of PC vs Console. Unreal Tournament was developed as PC game ...so it's a PC port to console.

 

 

Pretty dumb article if you ask me. I play both PC (mostly) and Console (rarely) and its no surprise PC gamers will come on top ...simply because of KB+M combo. So there is no reason to stack the odds further against the console players with games that work against their favor. I'll gladly play PC Gamers on my 360 when it comes to MW2. Already done it and outside of the hacks (super jumps, unlimited ammo, no cool-down rate) I really didn't see an advantage I couldn't over come. Many of those hacked games I actually topped the score on or came in 2nd/3rd place.

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Imagine what you could do with a keyboad + mouse in Halo 3. You'd ravage them.

 

And "they" would ravage you, if you were on a controller and they had KB+M ...

 

This article is designed to bring out fanboyism. And the jury says: guilty.

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LOL, even though this article is stating the obvious it was a good read. I have shadowrun on PC and it's one of those "the concept was good but the implementation could have been better" type of games.. not very popular and from what i remember playing online there were hardly any 360 players as they would get dominated by the Keyboard+mouse users.

 

In my view a Keyboard + mouse is superior in the following: FPS, RTS, RPG and In general anything that involves shooting something - Controllers are better for Fighting games (Tekken, Soul Caliber, Street fighter etc) and Racing games.

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Don't forget also, that using a controller on any platform for whatever game, generally means you are not constrained to a flat surface (which is a general requirement for the mouse of course). Being able to slouch on a sofa without a mouse is pretty handy, especially for casual FPS.

 

Hardly a killer though. But I can see where this argument will head :)

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I think a lot of people would be really surprised to see just how well I controller can work in most games when given enough effort. The game that comes to mind for best controls on a console is Demon's Souls, the way the controls work in that game are simply so natural feeling that you don't even realize you're using a controller anymore, where as many other RPG games have this problem still, for example dragon age, where you have to select spells and others sorts of things from a wheel using the joystick, controls of this sort will keep in mind that you are using a controller. This is just how I feel about it though, I'm not saying everyone feels the same about dragon age.

 

As for k+m vs controller, I definitely prefer k+m for any game, and yes, that includes racing games. I can't use a controller for any game anymore usually, which is why I have so few games on my PS3 and Wii, all I have on them are exclusives. However, I wouldn't say k+m is definitely better, I have a lot of friends who mostly play console and I've had them play PC games with me before and they are usually terrible at it, if k+m were simply naturally better than a controller then just about anyone should do better with them than a controller but that just isn't the case.

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I have a lot of friends who mostly play console and I've had them play PC games with me before and they are usually terrible at it, if k+m were simply naturally better than a controller then just about anyone should do better with them than a controller but that just isn't the case.

 

This my good man Silverfox is what I meant by that statement. Most of my friends are console gamers as well, and have told me many times that they would beat me at games such as MW, MW2, or any of the Tom Clancy games. This is the shutting down I was referring to.

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And "they" would ravage you, if you were on a controller and they had KB+M.

 

A lot of console gamers firmly believe that a controller is the way to play FPS (in that it provides most accuracy etc).

 

I actually had a pretty good conversation with a friend of mine who plays on the PS3, and he was genuinely amazed that FPS can be played at all with a mouse.

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I don't think Silverfox is saying console players are inherently better than PC Gamers. He's just trying to say console gamers can be good gamers too because the general attitude is that Console Gamer = automatic suck. Give them a KB+M to prove themselves before writing them off. In order to prove this point, look at many of the straight up gamers even on this PC centric site... many play both PC and Console. In fact, I'm willing to guess that many players that visit this website, play on both PC and Console. They may have preferences (such as FPS and RTS on pc, etc.) but that doesn't take away from the fact that they fall in both categories.

 

And while people bring up good points that just because you give someone a KB+M doesn't mean they automatically win, it should also be taken into consideration how much PC Gaming experience does this person have? Put anyone on a new platform they're not familiar with and of course they are going to suck. It took a LONG time for me to get used to FPS on a console. I got rolled everyday for at least a couple months on MW2 trying to learn how to play FPS on console.

 

 

 

With some exceptions of course, I think most people who play both PC and Console can agree KB+M is better for FPS and RTS games. After that people are across the board in what they prefer on which platform. But I still think that this article is biased and lacking any real test strategy, but that's my opinion. :P

 

Gamers are gamers. Let people enjoy what they prefer.

Edited by Fogel

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