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This is getting more interesting by the minute

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20100612/us_time/08599199606400

 

Arizona's Next Immigration Target: Children of Illegals

By ADAM KLAWONN / PHOENIX Adam Klawonn / Phoenix – Sat Jun 12, 10:00 am ET

 

"Anchor babies" isn't a very endearing term, but in Arizona those are the words being used to tag children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants. While not new, the term is increasingly part of the local vernacular because the primary authors of the nation's toughest and most controversial immigration law are targeting these tots - the legal weights that anchor many undocumented aliens in the U.S. - for their next move.

 

 

Buoyed by recent public opinion polls suggesting they're on the right track with illegal immigration, Arizona Republicans will likely introduce legislation this fall that would deny birth certificates to children born in Arizona - and thus American citizens according to the U.S. Constitution - to parents who are not legal U.S. citizens. The law largely is the brainchild of state Sen. Russell Pearce, a Republican whose suburban district, Mesa, is considered the conservative bastion of the Phoenix political scene. He is a leading architect of the Arizona law that sparked outrage throughout the country: Senate Bill 1070, which allows law enforcement officers to ask about someone's immigration status during a traffic stop, detainment or arrest if reasonable suspicion exists - things like poor English skills, acting nervous or avoiding eye contact during a traffic stop. (See the battle for Arizona: will a border crackdown work?)

 

 

But the likely new bill is for the kids. While SB 1070 essentially requires of-age migrants to have the proper citizenship paperwork, the potential "anchor baby" bill blocks the next generation from ever being able to obtain it. The idea is to make the citizenship process so difficult that illegal immigrants pull up the "anchor" and leave. (See pictures of the Great Wall of America.)

 

 

The question is whether that would violate the U.S. Constitution. The 14th Amendment states that "all persons, born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States." It was intended to provide citizenship for freed slaves and served as a final answer to the Dred Scott case, cementing the federal government's control over citizenship.

 

 

But that was 1868. Today, Pearce says the 14th Amendment has been "hijacked" by illegal immigrants. "They use it as a wedge," Pearce says. "This is an orchestrated effort by them to come here and have children to gain access to the great welfare state we've created." Pearce says he is aware of the constitutional issues involved with the bill and vows to introduce it nevertheless. "We will write it right." He and other Republicans in the red state Arizona point to popular sympathy: 58% of Americans polled by Rasmussen think illegal immigrants whose children are born here should not receive citizenship; support for that stance is 76% among Republicans.

 

 

Those who oppose the bill say it would lead to more discrimination and divide the community. Among them is Phoenix resident Susan Vie, who is leading a citizen group that's behind an opposing ballot initiative. She moved to the U.S. 30 years ago from Argentina, became a naturalized citizen and now works as a client-relations representative for a vaccine company. "I see a lot of hate and racism behind it," Vie says. "Consequently, I believe it will create - and it's creating it now - a separation in our society." She adds, "When people look at me, they will think, 'Is she legal or illegal?' I can already feel it right now." Vie's citizen initiative would prohibit SB 1070 from taking affect, place a three-year moratorium on all related laws - including the anchor baby bill - to buy more time for federal immigration reform. Her group is racing to collect 153,365 signatures by July 1 to qualify for the Nov. 2 general election.

 

 

Both sides expect the anchor baby bill to end up before the U.S. Supreme Court before it is enacted. "I think it would be struck down as facially unconstitutional. I can't imagine a federal judge saying this would be OK," says Dan Barr, a longtime Phoenix lawyer and constitutional litigator. Potentially joining the anchor baby bill at the Supreme Court may be SB 1070, which Arizona Republican Governor Jan Brewer signed into law in April. It is set to take effect July 29, but at least five courtroom challenges have been filed against it. Pearce says he will win them all.

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Man, Arizona is getting crazier by the minute imo. How is anything going to be built in that state without the illegals..

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Just to preface, I'm from Tucson. I lived there for 18 years :P

 

Without reading the justification for this new bill, I think it's a horrible idea. Yes, there are legal ways to enter the US and become a legal resident... but don't punish the kids for the parents' ignorance (especially when their intentions are very positive). Most of my friends in elementary and middle school were Mexican. A good percentage of those friends were children of illegal immigrants. Without looking at it from any other perspective, I had a very cultured and enjoyable childhood partly because of those friends. I learned a lot about Mexican culture and my life is richer because of it.

 

Perhaps the Mexican and US gov'ts should get together and start an immigration education program in border areas? I don't even know the legal process myself so I wouldn't call it common knowledge (although I might just be *gasp* ignorant!)

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Just to preface, I'm from Tucson. I lived there for 18 years :P

 

Without reading the justification for this new bill, I think it's a horrible idea. Yes, there are legal ways to enter the US and become a legal resident... but don't punish the kids for the parents' ignorance (especially when their intentions are very positive). Most of my friends in elementary and middle school were Mexican. A good percentage of those friends were children of illegal immigrants. Without looking at it from any other perspective, I had a very cultured and enjoyable childhood partly because of those friends. I learned a lot about Mexican culture and my life is richer because of it.

 

Perhaps the Mexican and US gov'ts should get together and start an immigration education program in border areas? I don't even know the legal process myself so I wouldn't call it common knowledge (although I might just be *gasp* ignorant!)

 

I dunno. I lived in southern Cali, then in Tucson for undergrad, so I got the culture as well. Plenty of the friends I had were from legal citizens of the united states. I personally don't like the idea of getting here illegally, having a kid, and getting a "get out of jail free" card.

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Except replace "jail" with "Mexico".

 

Like I said, maybe an education program would decrease the illegal aliens and increase the legal residents?

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It won't last long even if it does happen. It's unconstitutional just like many consider it unconstitutional to restrict one's right to bear arms.

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The parent doesnt automatically recieve citizenship if they have a child do they?

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It won't last long even if it does happen. It's unconstitutional just like many consider it unconstitutional to restrict one's right to bear arms.

Thats the whole point. Illegal Immigrants should not be protected by the constitution. It just doesn't make any sense. It would be like you getting in trouble and then being held to the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) even though your not a service member.

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Does anyone not see theses situations as a compliment to our society. People from other countries still want to move here to create better lives for themselves.

Hiero has a more suitable idea. Instead of spending money on legislation and enforcement, why not spend it on education. Help those who want to live here, who want their children to live here, learn what is necessary to become an American citizen. An increase in legal tax base and legal consumers can't be a bad thing. Couple that with income tax reform and our country can become richer, both financially and culturally.

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Does anyone not see theses situations as a compliment to our society. People from other countries still want to move here to create better lives for themselves.

Hiero has a more suitable idea. Instead of spending money on legislation and enforcement, why not spend it on education. Help those who want to live here, who want their children to live here, learn what is necessary to become an American citizen. An increase in legal tax base and legal consumers can't be a bad thing. Couple that with income tax reform and our country can become richer, both financially and culturally.

Thats all fine and dandy if they move here to create a better life for themselves and give back to the system from which they are taking like I do. The problem lies with the freeloaders that take from the system and don't give anything back.....this includes both illegal and non illegal citizens. If you want to donate to the illegals then by all means, but you better not do it with my hard earned tax dollars!

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An increase in legal tax base and legal consumers can't be a bad thing. Couple that with income tax reform and our country can become richer, both financially and culturally.

I strongly disagree with your line of thinking, from a tax perspective. More tax revenue should never be a goal of a nation, and a wealthy government is never, ever, ever a good thing or a goal to strive for. Thats one of the most common arguments I hear for marijuana legalization, and it never has made sense. Doing something specifically so the government can make more money off of it is a horrible motive and goes against the foundations of this country.

 

As far as the immigration thing goes, I dont mind children born in the USA to illegal parents becoming citizens. If implemented correctly, albeit heartlessly, it could be all the incentive needed to end the concept of "anchor babies." When a mother gives birth to a child, if she doesnt have documentation she should get turned in to the federal government for deportation. That way all women giving birth in a state get checked for their legality, and if people continue to cross the border, they would only be ripping their own families apart... the kid can stay and get sent to an orphanage, but the parents get booted... let that happen a few times and once word spreads, what mother would willingly cross illegally?

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