Maelstrom_Mephisto Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 I am looking to buy a new motherboard because my previous board was supposed to support the 800 MHZ FSB and PC3500, but it didn't. Therefore I have been running a P4 2.4C processor at 1.6 GHZ and at a 500 MHZ fsb as well as 512MB of 433 MHZ ram at 333. I put my friends computer together after mine and did not repeat the same mistake (however, i got him two sticks of 400 MHZ ram to be safe) and am very pleased with the results. The motherboard in his computer is an ASUS P4P800 with the 865PE chipset. I was wondering if this motherboard can accomodate 433MHZ ram without any problems. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks ahead of time for any help I recieve. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dignan Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 What board is the old board you had "problems" with. It doesn't make sense that it won't run at it's designated speed. If the mobo supports 800 fsb you probably just have to make the setting right in the BIOS and that's it. RAM that is designated to run at 433mhz will just get slowed down to the proc speed in this case... Unless it's the motherboard that doesn't support 800mhz FSB you can go into the bios and change the FSB to 200 and the RAM speed to 200mhz and you should be fine. Give more detailed system specs to further diagnose the problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom_Mephisto Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 (edited) Yeah, I know that the fact that the motherboard doesn't support the processor or Ram is my problem.. I checked in the bios and there is no way to set the proc speed and ram to the correct setting other than overclocking. The board was a Gigabyte GSQ800. This board doesn't like overclocking at all. It is not dependable at all if you overclock it at all. I am running this motherboard with a P4C 2.4 Ghz @1.6Ghz(533 FSB), 512 Mb of PC3500 ram running at 333 Mhz. I believe that the site I ordered it from was simply mistaken in their specs sheet. I don't even know where I ordered it from now. I want to overclock and from what I can see the P4P800 is very good and stable with processor overclocks. I would just like to know if it would have any problems running my PC3500 stick (I don't want it to run at 333 again). Also, I will very likely buy another stick of PC3500 for the Dual Channel option. Would the P4P800 have a problem with this, I know it says Dual Channel 3200, but will it work stable with 3500? Edited January 5, 2004 by Maelstrom_Mephisto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LobbDogg Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 I've got some PC4000 going on in my P4P800 deluxe and it runs fine, so I don't see any reason why PC3500 wouldn't work. Make sure to go with Mushkin Lvl 2 PC3500 hey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYoKoNA Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 PC anything should work on that mobo.....(that is ddr ofcourse) The mobo sets the rams speed..... One question that might solve all your problems On the gigabyte board and the asus board how many sticks of ram were on the board? From what i am reading you only used 1 stick..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom_Mephisto Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 Yeah, I currently only have one stick of 512MB ram right now. I do, however, want to get another stick soon so I can use the Dual Channel Mode and have plenty of Ram. Also, the Gigabyte board I have currently seems to have a problem with the first bank (ram slots 00 and 01). When I first put it together and tried to play C&C Generals, I could only play for a short while and the game would crash and the computer would reboot. I had heard that sometimes changing the slot the ram was in would fix that problem. I moved it from slot 00 (furthest from the processor) to slot 01 and it still crashes, but not as fast. I then moved it into slot 02 (the first of the second bank) and it has never crashed since. I may have just gotten a defective motherboard, but I would rather have the ASUS anyway. I've had this one for around 6 months and have wanted a different ever since the beginning, I just didn't have the money then (the gigabyte was only $79) I feel it is time to get what i wanted anyway. By the way, what is the difference in the deluxe p4p800 and the non deluxe? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 I am also using the p4p800 with one stick of 512 pc3200 ram. it works great pc3500 should work shouldnt it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYoKoNA Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 By the way, what is the difference in the deluxe p4p800 and the non deluxe? Sata and raid are on the deluxe board if Im not mistaken ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom_Mephisto Posted January 5, 2004 Posted January 5, 2004 (edited) I am beginning to think I was a little over cautious this time; I just didn't want to make another mistake like the last one. I play Star Wars Galaxies and that game is hell on Ram. It jerks bad sometimes because it is constantly having to write and read from the harddrive. I believe I read somewhere that it uses around 950 Megs of Ram if you don't want the game to touch your hard drive. I know my friends computer (as explained earlier) runs the game and rarely if ever jerks. I am also sure that the problem is not my video card either, although i would like a new one of those as well .. His computer is running 1,024 MB of Samsung PC3200 (two 512 sticks in dual channel mode). I believe this is what seperates his from mine. Even when I take a stick from his computer and replace the one in my computer with his, the game runs better just from the 66Mhz gained on the ram (jerking way less than mine does at present, but a bit more than his). So I figure with my ram running at 433, I can wait a little while before getting another stick of it. What do you guys think? Would I see that much of a difference based on you guys' past experience? By the way, the board my friend has is not a deluxe, but it has the serial ATA on it as well. I figure if it has SATA, it has the raid controller on it as well. Edited January 5, 2004 by Maelstrom_Mephisto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
keto Posted January 8, 2004 Posted January 8, 2004 865 Intel chipset can be a *little* picky about what brand of memory but to generalize, yes absolutely the P4P800 will use PC3500 memory. At stock, it will run fsb200, or PC3200 but that's not a problem. If your cpu is overclockable (it should be) you'll be able to take your fsb to 216, or PC3500, easily. There are also memory dividers - for example, at 5:4 ratio fsb 250, your memory runs 200. So, if your cpu will go to fsb 270 - not an unreasonable proposition, that's 3.24GHz and many 2.4's can do this - your memory will be at 216 or PC3500. Back to the picky part, if you double up your memory you will see several benefits, including dual channel (faster!) and plus just the overall amount of RAM, which should keep SWG from chugging just as you suspect. BUT you need to find an EXACT match to your existing stick to maximize the potential for compatability with the mobo. Mis-matched sticks *can* work but the chances are low. Better yet, sell your existing stick and buy a pair of matched sticks. Mushkin Level2, Corsair TwinX LL, OCZ high end. If you want to go really over the top, buy PC4000 or PC4200 that will let you run fsb 1:1 with memory speed up to 250 or 260. The other thing about buying that (or any 865/875 chipset mobo) is that even at stock speed, your cpu is going to speed up from 1.6 to 2.4, that in itself is a huge boost. The differences to the Deluxe are Gigabit LAN instead of 10/100, ICH5R southbridge with SATA RAID native (not running on PCI bus). Did I miss anything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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