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Police officer uses Taser on male student at High School


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lots of 18 year olds becuase if your birthday is past september something they hold you back... Lame yes

 

I have a feeling this is only going to get worse with these kinds of situations...

 

If the student isnt going to listen you just suspend him. I'm guessing he's under age beucase they didnt release his name.

 

Now he has a criminal record(its a juvi record yes but it still effects him) and if he doesnt shell out tons of cash for a lawyer hes screwed. They might try to send him to a "program" till he's 19... Alot of the kids who come out of them are far worse than when they went in.

 

I'm not taking sides on this one either just saying kinda thing.

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Its hard to tell in that video. But from what I gathered I am assuming that he was only disliked or unwanted in that situation simply Because he was rocking the boat.

 

Its kind of messed up that an officer is allowed to grab you and "escort" you away from a situation of any kind that he see fit.....

 

I have alot of respect for one officer. I had gotten in a fight on break at my "alternative ed" School and as I proceeded to beat the hell out of this prick all the officer said to us was "thats enough you two... lets go" soo he escorted us, to where we knew where we were going. and he followed us to the office, sat us down, and as soon as the principal arrived he excussed himself.

 

The point I am hitting on is I belive unless you resist and authority figure then you do not need to be touched or violated in any way shape or form. Or at least introduce why they are taking you before they do.

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When you resist you deserve whats coming to you. Like bosco said its a tool. Should the officer have pistol whipped him? beat him with a baton? Used a choke hold? Young kids have no respect for authority. Many feel the rules don't apply to them and are hard headed to boot. I know I was once one of those youths and have a 19 year old son who is a good kid but......

 

 

If you listen and comply without a smart @@@ remark you can avoid the BS.

 

Its gonna sound wrong coming from me, but i totally agree.

Im only a young fella myself, but i see the BS all the time.

 

We have gangs of youths getting around the outer suburbs of sydney, carrying guns, knives, KG's of illicit drugs, etc because the cops cant touch them. We regularly have kids spitting in the faces of police officers, and the cops cant touch them.

 

Im not sure about the most of you, but if somebody spat in my face because i was doing my job, I'd be fairly well inclined to give them a smack in the face.

 

Those of you that cant handle a bit of offensive language, might want to skip the quote below, but this is word for word from in interview of a 18 or 19 year old gang member a few years back

Officer: So, can you tell me what you were doing between the hours of xx and xx on xx?

Suspect in interview: I Was .ing your mum!

 

Turns out he was trafficking a few KG's of cocaine

 

Its a belief that if you let little instances of disrespect go, they escalate and escalate, and eventually no respect for authority will exist. I can't comment about anyhting happening offshore, but i can say that its definately happening here in Australia. And then as these kids get older, the crimes get owrse, and worse, and worse, and their doing time before their 19th Birthday and dont even fully understand the things that attributed to this, because there was never any reprimand for their lack of respect in the first place.

 

Just remember who this is coming from too - I Cop flack from the Police on a regular basis for having an interest in motor sports- even though i take time off of work to travel to track days where racing is completely legal and insured, etc. Simply because i am a young bloke on the road with a loud car, i get targeted. But i have nothing against the cops, and if i was tazered for being a smart butt, i wouldn't turn around and have a big sook about it. Maybe i should have shut my mouth in the first place?

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So it sounds like from reading the article that all he did is push the officer away and then he got zapped for that?

 

I'm surprised the officer isn't being charged instead of the kid? I don't know the rules of that school but I know when I was still in grade school which wasn't that long ago the school administration had no right to aggressively touch a kid unless they had to to break up a fight or the kid was going to cause harm to himself or others.

 

This just sounds like another instance of a cop overstepping his power. What should have happened is after the cop got pushed away he should have gave the kid a few verbal warnings and then just let him walk off while he reported it to a principal and then let the principal call him out off class and give him a few weeks of detentions or in school suspensions or what ever the appropriate punishment they think is fit for him. Going to court and maybe Juvenal hall will just make things worse because like said before a lot of kids come out worse then when they came in and if you go there that means you have criminal recorded which will make it harder for you to apply for jobs or at colleges. Which then turns into a downward spiral which could then could lead to a career criminal.

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What gives the kid right to shove anyone?

 

If a drunk pushes a cop that is assault and they are charged with it.

 

The cops are in the schools because of the violence so based on your reasoning kids shouldn't be charged for crimes because they are in school :blink:

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What gives the kid right to shove anyone?

 

If a drunk pushes a cop that is assault and they are charged with it.

 

The cops are in the schools because of the violence so based on your reasoning kids shouldn't be charged for crimes because they are in school :blink:

 

I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished but I believe it's not appropriate to take him to court and give him a criminal record which can damage the start of his adult life. I understand that there are a lot of spooled young brats out there nowadays and they need to be taught a lesson when they do something wrong instead of getting away with it. But if you push the punishments too hard you could end up doing the wrong thing instead of straitening him out you could turn him into a career criminal which will burden and cost society even more in the long run.

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You see, so may of us have differing opinions.

 

 

In my opinion the cop didn't have the authority to touch the kid to begin with, therefore him getting shoved was the product of his own actions...

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As a student right now, I think that the whole thing was a bit harsh. The officer should have told the kid to go to the office, and see his principle. I don't think that the officer should have first put his hands on him, and physically escort him anywhere, unless he was resisting of course.

 

Physically, the student did nothing wrong from the get go. But once he was first touched, he reacted in making sure the officer was not touching him. To me, it seems like both people are at fault here. Though the kid should not be charged for the officer physically putting his hands on him for not being in class and using a cell phone in a non-emergency state. Even at my school, the cell phone would have gotten taken away and I would have been called to the office. There would never be a need for an officer to intervene into the situation, especially in a physical manner, even though there are two or three policeman stationed at my high school throughout the day.

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I think the cop handled it wrong by grabbing the kid. If the kid had handled himself maturely he would have had a case against the cop, but by shoving him he lost all credibility and he'll never be able to defend himself against the assault charges now. No one's going to listen to a word he has to say once he's "assaulted" a cop. Two wrongs don't make a right and unfortunately for the kid, -his- wrong was much worse.

 

It would also depend on whether it was a real cop or a school rent-a-cop, but it sounds like it was a real one. In that case, you don't mess around with those guys. Period. If cops stopped and carefully thought about the absolute least amount of force they could use in every situation, they'd end up dead. In their line of work, they don't have time to evaluate "levels" of threat. Someone makes a move on them, they escalate it quickly. That's just the way it has to be and I don't have a problem with that. If you want to get physical with them, they're not going to call your mommy, they're going to put you down. The end.

 

Don't shove cops and you won't get tazed. That's the moral I take from this.

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Imo, the tazzing was exactly what the kid needed. As others have said, if you let little things like this go, the situation escaltes, because the kid then has no respect for the law. Hopefully the pain of the taze, and the charges will ensure this is one kid that dosent step out of line again. Hopefully it will also set an example for the rest of the kids.

 

imo, if this case went the other way, and the cop had been charged, it would just make things MUCH worse. It would send the message to the kid, and all his class mates, that its ok to disobey and not respect the rules/law. This would then lead to a whole host of other incidents like this.

 

One of the major problems atm is, that kids just do not respect the law, they KNOW that cops and other officials cant touch them, so they have nothing to fear. Hence the case of the kids spitting in an officers face that someone mentioned earlier. The kids know dam well if the officer then punched them, or otherwise retaliated, the law would be on there side.

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