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my AMD turion 6000+ will only OC to 3.54ghz and still runs prety cool,

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I'd use IntelBurnTest or Prime95/Orthos.

at 230 HT it passed the test 2 times, and failed the rest. at 228, it doesent fail at all, even after 8 tests. so i kicked it down to 228, but thats not helping my orriginal question, lol

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Actually, it is. You have to run these tests to make sure everything is rock solid stable. If it's not, it's a complete waste to go higher, with some exceptions (some boards have reference b us "holes", frequencies at which they are unstable, but over which they are fine), but you've gotta get things stable.

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