Vampire Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 Hey all, I need a better excuse than "I want this new computer for all the new games", they dont care for that at all. I already have the Case, PSU, soundcard and speakers in my siggy, I just need everything else I tried telling them "I need it for study too" but they say the current one (IBM 550mhz) already does the job. Im all out of excuses, they didnt fully support me on buying my case because they dont see the point of having a modded case, I tell them "because it looks cool", but they dont understand. Im all out of ideas and I desperately want a new computer before I become too busy to play it much. If I have to earn it myself it will take way too long btw I am 15, nearly 16. cheers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Yuck Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 hmm, how are your grades? The experience in building your own computer would be good. With your own powerful computer to mess with, you can learn a lot. I wont get a ticket with it like a car It is safer than a motorcycle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvaderTrax Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 Sounds like you have everything except the motherboard. That's what? $80? You don't have that much laying around? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop245 Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 i aint trying to start a war here but if you go amd you mite save some money or go with a lesser P4 chip Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampire Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 Yes I was thinking to go AMD, would save a lot of money, and uhh no I dont have much lying around, only got some SD ram lying around really, I got a amd mobo cept its a crappy MSI one that can only support up to a 1800+. I need a mobo, cpu, hdd, ram, video card. I also would need a new monitor (17" aint cutting it ) besides I want to keep this computer as is and network them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asus Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 (edited) first off .... get rid of that 3500 ram its good but 3200 would do you just fine... the cpu is good.. look at my sig.. the mobo is good. look at my sig.. cut some of the "here is were i embaris my self" UN-NECCEARYS "ahh.. the spelling" GO INTEL if you want a system that will be un-oc and modded free.. with the asus mobo you got you can oc it by %, you can still do it manually BUT amd is better for that... an excuse is my computer died because i took of the HSF and let it run !!! break your computer... that will be a good reason.. but dont tell your parents. or pretend to break it.. like... undo the hd jumper.. set it to like... CS or something.. or undo the IDE cable to the hd or pull out the ram.. do this unexpectadally.. like... got to go type my paper up! "mom .. my computer dont work" ****crap***** !! and you konw the rest... been there done that Edited December 29, 2003 by asus Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 well. your going to have to sacrifice some things. I feel for you man my parents are the same way. "Why do you need to throw away all this money on flashy lights." "what broke?, Well i told you, but you went around and started cutting and spending money all on a computer." -This for a $10 Retention bracket WHICH I STILL HAVENT GOT (forced to use duct tape) blah blah blah im sure you've herd it all. My suggestion is get a job. Only for the weekends if your to busy with hw. and buy things you need peice by peice. ask your parents for some money to buy some cooling and overclock the chip you have now I agree with Mr Yuck. When my dad gave me this p4 i knew close to nothing about parts, cooling, voltage, all that stuff. Now i know way more than i used to and i take a real sense of pride when friends phone me up with computer related problems for excuses the best i can come up with are All the cool kids are doing it. I want to be a Computer modder when you grow up and i need a better computer I will get really good marks on my next report card (if you dont already) I hope everything ive said made sense, It's late and im falling asleep PS sorry about the novel that i wrote as a response Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampire Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 lol thx for that reply General. The trouble is, I dunno what else I can do to impress my parents, I got a very good result from my school certificate (couldda done better but it was still good), and I am a generally nice person, I dont go disobeying them n stuff. I have tried everything, the best I have got is a remark from dad "I will help you out if I see you get a job and start earning sufficient money". I am trying to get a job, I have applied for one at the hardware store (not computer hardware), and tomorrow I am going for anoter one at a computer hardware shop. I have the knowlegde of what to do I just need the parts hehe. Anyway I guess the only thing left to do is try to get a job ASAP! Oh yeh and try impress mum n dad by helping around the house heaps. <_< Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special_K Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 if its not already make it known how into computers you are. also, talk about your "future" and that what you want to do is build them and that all of this is not only beneficial, but a learning experience that you can use towards a job, internship, or career. works every time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 (edited) Well i guess it also depends what kind of ppl your parents are.. If they are the kind that appreciate hard work and commitment, then getting a job will surely impress them, and lead them to reward you. If their like my parents, (which pay me to keep unemplyed, then have fun overclocking your CPU" my Suggestion is. nag at them. im sure you've seen taht Simpsons epysode when bart and lisa want to goto Mt. Adventure or something like that. and they use the Ol' Can you take us to mount splashmore (thats what it was, not adventure) Can you take us to mount splashmore Can you take us to mount splashmore Can you take us to mount splashmore Can you take us to mount splashmore. im thinking use this as a last resort if your job isnt working out or you have a real bstrd boss Again i hope what i said made sense. I really should be going to bed.. ++EDIT++ BETTER YET. if they dont know much about computers, say you fried your chip running an application, Because the chip couldnt handle it and it overheated. but then again thats not an excuse its a lie and i dont think i could use that CPU if i lied to get it unless i was a real butthole Edited December 29, 2003 by General Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVE Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 If you say you fried the cpu, they may say "How do we know you won't fry the new one just like the old one?" One way that worked for me in the past is to be somewhat up front with them. Tell them you have this part, this part, and this part, now all I need is that part to finish. Use all the fancy terminology you can and show them you've done your research and how much computer stuff you've learned. Say you want a certain motherboard because it has the right bus speed for the ram you have, it suppots RAID setups, has right cpu socket for mounting your Pentium chip etc. It usually works best when your parents have no idea what your talking about, thats why using big words and terminology they don't know may impress them more about your knowledge on the subject. It worked well when I wanted an amp for my subwoofers in my truck But, my dad knows all about this stuff, computers and car amps and stuff. So basically I had to play straight up with him. I told him and even showed him my stereo setup, told him the exact specs on my subs, and why I wanted a certain amp. Talked all the mumbo jumbo about certain gauge wire for certain distance from battery to the amp, where to ground the amp, etc. I ended getting a better amp than my orginal plan because my dad was cool with the fact that I learned all the crap on my own and did research and made a good setup. So if 1 or both of your parents are in the know about computers, just being straight up with them telling them you only need 1 or 2 parts and you can get a whole new rig up and running that'll kick the old computers ., have it run perfectly fine, and the fact that you have all the knowledge behind it and learned tons of stuff, it just may work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazwegion Posted December 29, 2003 Posted December 29, 2003 Negotiate for the parts you need... additional house chores vs. parts needed, might sound dumb... but they'll see it as you making an adult approach, and most likely appreciate you being forthright/upfront about it Quid-pro-quo = life skills Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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