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Stimulus Bill: Explained

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doing their jobs and turning on the citizens are two different things.

my father was a drill instructor at Parris Island for 20 years.

i may just have a small idea what is like to be a Marine.

they will follow their commanders orders blindly, but i cannot conceive of them ever turning their guns on the public.

especially if the unrest is from states as a whole.

rioters yes...

the public...

i doubt it.

 

i make him out to be exactly what he is...

a socialist...

any talk of nationalizing anything is socialism whether you like it or not.

you are correct about my veiw of him.

i have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever because i know him for what he is.

unqualified for the position and a socialist to boot.

if he had applied for a management position in any company in the US he wouldn't even have gotten an interview.

not based on his resume anyway...

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There's a difference between having family in the military and actually being in it. Also, soldiers in the Civil War didn't have major problems with raising their guns, and they were less trained than today's soldiers. Plus, just the THREAT of having the US military "encourage" you to rejoin the Union would be more than enough for most states, let alone simply having an Airborne unit jump into town.

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considering the fact that that in itself is illegal...

we really would be moving to socialism then wouldn't we?

 

What in and of itself would be illegal? Threatening them to rejoin or dropping paratroopers? The states secede, the Union has every right to force them back in. It did it in the 1860s, it can do it again. There's nothing illegal about annexation.

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As Kash said, the moment they secede, it's fair game under the Geneva Conventions. Just the threat of force would be more than enough. If that didn't work, do you think that the National Guard will be able to stand up the brunt of the combined military forces? Let alone local militias? Jim Bob and his modified AR-15 stand little chance.

 

But yeah, the first Republican president was a pretty big socialist :rolleyes:.

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this actually only took place in 2006 as the socialists prepared their assault on our freedoms...

U.S. Military To Assault U.S. Citizens

 

Section 1076 of H.R. 5122.ENR allows the President to:

“...employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to... restore public order and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident, or other condition in any State or possession of the United States..., where the President determines that,...domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of maintaining public order; suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy...”

 

as far as i know there is only one socialist talking about nationalizing the banks...

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people throw the words Billion and Trillion around without truly knowing how MUCH that actually is...if one were to spend a MILLION dollars a DAY, it would take nearly 3,000 years to spend one trillion dollars.

 

i'm not a political science or economics major, however i do believe this stimulus bill is useless. yeah it may somehow somewhere do some good, i can't say that for sure. anything can happen. however my bet is within the next year or three the economy will be back to where it should be, regardless of whether or not this bill was passed. and when the economy DOES improve, the supporters of the stimulus bill will give it credit for doing so even though the market is just following a trend, just this time the deficit is down a little further than usual. it's only a cycle.

 

the reason the economy is where it is now is because people are LIVING BEYOND THEIR MEANS. even if you're making $100,000 a year, you shouldn't own a $50,000 car and a $500,000 house. people are buying stuff with money THEY DON'T HAVE. and when they can't pay the creditors/banks back, the banks suffer. creditors take a gamble with everyone they lend money to, and it finally came back and bit them in the arse. same thing with the auto manufacturers. the manufacturers begin to suffer when the creditors AREN'T lending money to everyone with a social security number to buy cars, again, with money they don't have. plus the auto manufacturers did a number to themselves. circuit city did it to themselves by racking up over $150 million in debt to HP alone.

 

anyways, where i live, i don't see anyone cutting back on their spending. seeing it from circuit city, as soon as they announced we were liquidating all of the stores, our traffic has increased by tenfold. not only traffic, but we were selling over a 100 grand A DAY for the first few weeks. people are still spending money.

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Maybe not, but it's change into a truck.

 

changeintoatruck.jpg

:lol: classic!

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