Amd 2400 +

[PeeGee10]

Hi everybody,

 

I'm new to overclocking, though I've got some experience at overclocking a vid-card, I've never done any overclocking on my CPU.

 

After reading the FAQ on the site and lots of posts, so I know all the basics, Just haven't put theorie into practice.. I think I'm ready ti start beefing up my 2400+ (T-bred), but a couple of things stille hold me back

So have questions...

 

First, Most people I see here on this forum have there 2400 running stable @ 11x200, wich is also what i'm willing to achieve 10,5x200 i would also suit for or something like that.

But, since the 2400+ runs at 2Ghz, is the first step i can take without any risk 10x200? If not, what would be a good first step, to startof from 15x133? I've got DDR3200, so thats why I would like 200 Mhz fsb.

BTW, I got good cooling, an 85mm fan. Idle temp is 32C, load 36C. So I think i can give it a little more.....

 

Second, If i would start right away with 11x200 (without changing the Vcore), wat that can go wrong at worse? As this is my primary rig, I don't want to screw things up...

 

Third and last, While running nothing in the background i only get 10152 3Dmarks, Isn't that on the low side for this rig?

 

My rig:

XP 2400 @ 2004

Asus A7N8X-E build V 1.xx (NO Deluxe) (bios version 1.007)

512 MB DDR 3200

GeForce 4 ti4200 128mb @ 285/545 (52.16)

SB Audigy 1

WD 80 GB HDD

 

 

Thanks fot the help!

[Special_K]

at the worst you can fry your cpu and mobo. although you have a good mobo and cpu so that will probally not happen. although your cpu isnt barton, it should oc well with correct cooling.

if you were to start up at 11 x 200 the what would probally happen is that it wouldnt be stable, so you would have to up the voltage, and make sure you have good enough cooling thats what would probally happen.

as for the 3dmarks, i wouldnt know, my vid card sucks so i dont even try

[PeeGee10]

Would I be able to run it up to 10,5x200 without a Vcore change?

[Special_K]

probally not, but upping the vcore isnt that bad unless you go over 1.8, then you get into voltages that will really kill the life of your cpu :/

[PeeGee10]

Thanks for the quick response!

But would 10x200 (still 2Ghz) Make a drastic improvement over 15x133?

Or would the perfomence be about the same? And could that be done without any risk, cause the CPU is stull running @ 2Ghz, so it isn't even an oc??

 

Also thinking about getting another stick of 512 PC3200 in dual channel mode.

Does anybody know the performance increase of getting that "upgrade"? 'cause i read somewhere that XP, and games could work slower, cause 1gig mem would take longer for the CPU to search for the correct data than 512 MB

 

I know the questions maybe sound very basic to you all, but i'm really new at this, know all the basics and the theories behind it, but its hard finding the answers, so sorry for any "REposts"

Edited December 27, 2003 by PeeGee10

[Special_K]

the memory thing is more a problem with video cards, where performance can slow down with 256mb cards. anyways, teh 10 x 200 would increase the performance because the fsb would be faster, causing the memory to be faster and the computer. the cpu, however, would operate the same (or about the same) as 15 x 133.

 

getting an extra stick of 512 3200 would be a good investment. make sure that it is the same type/manufactuer as the one you have. it should boost performance as long as its at the right speed. good luck, hope this helps

[PeeGee10]

Thanks for all the help.

 

This is my current situation

 

Got the extra stick, big improvement!!

But now tryinm as i said earlier to oc my cpu to 10x200

 

Windows boots so thats good for a first try. Accept the system now sees my CPU as a XP2000+??? Temps stay the same (around 32 idle) But when i put on some load (3Dmark01) the system hangs. Put it back to the original settings of 15x133, works as it has always done!

 

Any sugestions how it comes that when go to 10x200 my system sees it as a XP2000?? Or to run stable at that setting??

[Eva_Unit_0]

First off, disregard what windows reads your cpu as...that's simply multiplier based, so if you're running a different fsb then its wrong. Heck, it reads my cpu (in my sig) as just a generic "Athlon."

 

I have a 2400+ also, and mine is at the speeds in my sig at 1.75V. Try for 11 x 200 @ 1.7V and see if it's stable. If it is, push it higher. If it's not, then raise the vcore to 1.75 and see if it's stable.

 

Also, to make sure the ram is stable, bump the vdimm up to 2.8V. That won't hurt anything.

[PeeGee10]

Also, to make sure the ram is stable, bump the vdimm up to 2.8V. That won't hurt anything

 

I already have PC3200 ram, wich supports a FSB of 200, so that should be no problem?!?

[Eva_Unit_0]

Just like how higher speed processors require more voltage than low-speed processors, fast ram wants more voltage than slow ram. For example, Geil ram is notorious for wanting 2.9+V in order to run at full speed proplerly.

[PeeGee10]

Ok, this is what i tried.

 

first: 11x200 @1.70 => booted, bat as soon as i started 3dmark01, aal kind of strange things happened

second: 11x200 @ 1,75 ([email protected]) => Same thing, very unstable

third: 10,5x200 (left the voltages the same) => also very unstable in 3Dmark, strange particles everywhere!

 

(temps are in idle around 38 now, so that cant' be the problem)

 

So does this mean for one reason ore another I can't set my fsb to 200??? If so, why??

Edited December 27, 2003 by PeeGee10

[Eva_Unit_0]

Those sound more like symptoms of overclocking the video card too much. Set the video card to default clocks while doing to just to eliminate it as a variable.

 

Some cpus just don't like 200fsb...you'll just have to find what works best for your processor. My 2400+ refused to go to 200fsb for the longest time...then I realized the problem was my power supply not putting out stable voltages. You may want to check those. The point is, there are many things that could be limiting the speeds you can get. It may be the fact that your a7n8x is a rev. 1.xx instead of 2.0...who knows.