iKillSteal Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Oh lawd, Ste is the end-all-be-all authority in physics just because he read some books! Strange Matter as in Quark Matter. Not Dark Matter. All your rebuttals as to what may occur are based on the assumption that all we know about the universe and physics is correct. This is a foolish assumption to make. You are completely ruling out any possibilities which current physics says can't work simply because current physics says it can't work. The logic behind your disbelief seems incredibly similar to the opposition to Darwin's ideas. Event he scientists behind the LHC don't know exactly what can and cannot happen with it. Yes they've done their best to calculate anything within the realm of our knowledge but obviously that only gets us so far. The LHC is a device on a scale the world has never seen before. Mysteries are bound to be revealed to us through its use. And besides, if everything it could do could simply be predicted with some formulas and variables, why build the damn thing in the first place? The answer to that question is to see what can happen. To see what we have never seen before. So you sir can continue to sit there and deny all those theoretical outcomes. I'll live my life believing the science on the edge. After all, that is how we have gotten where we are now. Do note that what I posted is not an attack, it's simply an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhenKittensATK Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Ancient Mayan's calendar says December 21, 2012 is the end of the world If no one has mentioned that yet. If we all die, then I guess we can take a shortcut to find out if there really is an afterlife. Or we can discover something amazing, that is if they ever find something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKillSteal Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 They're bound to find something. Important or trivial? Who knows. But ultimately it's manly enough just smashing atoms together with the force the LHC is capable of. Lets consider it humanities triumph over existence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 (edited) Oh lawd, Ste is the end-all-be-all authority in physics just because he read some books! Strange Matter as in Quark Matter. Not Dark Matter. All your rebuttals as to what may occur are based on the assumption that all we know about the universe and physics is correct. This is a foolish assumption to make. You are completely ruling out any possibilities which current physics says can't work simply because current physics says it can't work. The logic behind your disbelief seems incredibly similar to the opposition to Darwin's ideas. Event he scientists behind the LHC don't know exactly what can and cannot happen with it. Yes they've done their best to calculate anything within the realm of our knowledge but obviously that only gets us so far. The LHC is a device on a scale the world has never seen before. Mysteries are bound to be revealed to us through its use. And besides, if everything it could do could simply be predicted with some formulas and variables, why build the damn thing in the first place? The answer to that question is to see what can happen. To see what we have never seen before. So you sir can continue to sit there and deny all those theoretical outcomes. I'll live my life believing the science on the edge. After all, that is how we have gotten where we are now. Do note that what I posted is not an attack, it's simply an observation. Noone is an expert, not even the "so called" experts. But I gave my opinion, just as you did, and I stand by mine, just as I expect you as well. The world will not end. (Even though I wish it would) I bet you my life. Edited September 11, 2008 by Ste Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKillSteal Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 I'll see your life and raise you mine and a Dr. Pepper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Ill add my sisters life too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKillSteal Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 I'll see your sister and raise you my current windows install as well as three goats and a pigeon. I will cease thread-derailment now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 This thread makes my head hurt. The LHC can not cause anything catastrophic. Even if it can create miniature black holes we're talking about black holes with less mass than a single atom. A SINGLE ATOM! They will collapse before they can do anything at all...assuming that we can even create them! The amount of buffoonery (sorry for stealing your word Kash) in this thread astonishes me. People really need to read up on the facts behind something before they start saying it should be illegal, banned, etc. The world hasn't spent 9 BILLION dollars on this project because they have no clue what it will do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 This thread makes my head hurt. The LHC can not cause anything catastrophic. Even if it can create miniature black holes we're talking about black holes with less mass than a single atom. A SINGLE ATOM! They will collapse before they can do anything at all...assuming that we can even create them! The amount of buffoonery (sorry for stealing your word Kash) in this thread astonishes me. People really need to read up on the facts behind something before they start saying it should be illegal, banned, etc. The world hasn't spent 9 BILLION dollars on this project because they have no clue what it will do. Welcome to the association. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waco Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Welcome to the association. Unfortunately I think... EXACTLY MAN!! It's a THEORY not a FACT!!!!! Like the theory of gravity? The theory of light? Like those theories? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC10281982B Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Its the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turophiliac Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 i know this is probably futile, but i'll say it anyway... does anyone remember what people said about the first atomic bomb ever set off? they said that it would break the bonds of the oxygen and hydrogen in the ocean and explode the entire world. did that happen? no. that was probably first said by someone who knew just enough physics to pass their highschool physics class. this is the exact same thing... except that we have way more to learn from this supercollider (sp?) what people aren't realizing is that we have been smashing atoms at superfast speeds in colliders for years... so what if this one goes a little faster than the next, there isn't some huge speed (or whatever else) limit that if we cross it, we're gonna be caught by the celestial cops and thrown in a universal prison where our punishment will be some horrific death by black hole... if you are going to scare uninformed people about black hole creation, or wormhole creation, at least try to learn a little more about them than the people you are trying to dupe... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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