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Hey guys here are my timing for my Rig in bios

 

got it stable for a couple of minutes at 1.55 V and temps didnt reach over 54

 

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

 

FSB Bus Frequency............................. - 200

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - AUTO

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - 14.5

PCI eXpress Frequency......................... - 101Mhz

 

CPU VID StartUp Value......................... - 1.55

 

CPU VID Control............................... - 1.55

CPU VID Special Control....................... - Auto

LDT Voltage Control........................... - 1.30v

Chip Set Voltage Control...................... - 1.60v

DRAM Voltage Control.......................... - 2.50v

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 200=RAM/FSB:01/01

Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 3

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 4

Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 8

Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 4

Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 15 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3684 Cycles

DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto

DQS Skew Value................................ - 0

DRAM Drive Strength........................... - Auto

DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - Auto

Max Async Latency............................. - 9ns

DRAM Response Time............................ - Normal

Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.5ns

IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter............................... - Disable

R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 16 x

Bypass Max.................................... - 07 x

32 Byte Granularity........................... - Disable(4 Bursts)

 

 

trying to get it Prime95/Orthos stable.....but i seem i cant

 

Something im doing wrong? Ram timings? voltages?

temps are fine..doesnt go over 60 always under 50 on loads (temps rise HEAPS if voltages are at 1.6 +) I dont want to go towards 1.6 v on my water cooling system cause it wont handle it i reckon!

 

Also PC works fine 3d Mark 2006 works, games eveything no issues at all.....just not prime95/orthos stable

 

should i give my cpu steppings for better reference??

 

all i know is that the guy who had it before me had the cpu @ 3200 on home made water chill cooling (pipes went into backyard).

 

 

i know im using the gigabyte galaxy II cooling but should do at least 2900 stable.....

 

your help is greatly appreciated and ill listen and learn to wat u have to say as im sort of new to o.c

 

 

cheers brothers....

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Lots of questions for you....

 

Are you using orthos? if so, do you have the AMD x2 processor driver installed?

If you don't that may be what is causing orthos to fail.

 

Have you run memtest to make sure that the ram is stable? And is there a reason that you are running DDR500 ram at 200mhz? I would raise the HTT & lower the cpu multi to get your ram closer to 250. 242x12 will get you to 2904mHz.

 

As far as the ram timings, I see a few things that could use some tweaking. I checked OCZs support forum and HERE are the timings they use to get it stable @ 250mHz

 

I remember reading several times that using half multi's are not a good idea. I don't remember where I read it, or what the reason was now, but I have always avoided half multi's. Perhaps you should avoid them also...

 

Are you temps from Smartguardian? If they are, grab core temp. It will show the core temps as well as show you what your TCaseMax is. Then use Coretemp to see what your load temps are, If they are exceeding the TCaseMax, then your instability is likely caused by heat & you need to lower your temps.

 

What kind of voltages did the previous owner of the cpu use, the max & everday? How long did he have it?

 

You said you were new to OCing, have you read the OC Guide yet? If not, I highly recommend it. It will help alot.

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Efficiency drops the hotter the chip gets, so you ether up the volts to make up for it at a given speed or find a away to get rid of more of the heat.

At low speed you can get away with higher temps & still be stable because chip does not need to be as Efficient so can afford to waste some as heat.

 

I was doing a high Mhz Orthos run at low Vcore & failed with in 30min temps only peaked at 48c, i got the desk 12" fan out & aimed it at cooling towers & got peak temps down to 42 & passed Orthos at same settings.

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Why are you feeding the chip so much voltage? 1.55V seems a bit over the top for a chip that should fly at default Vcore. I run an opty 170 which is virtually the same in design that goes 2.8 at default Vcore showing 1.33V. Hottest I've ever seen this chip is about 45C at prolonged full load.

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thanks guys i will try some of the things u said and get back to u guys

 

:D

 

Why are you feeding the chip so much voltage? 1.55V seems a bit over the top for a chip that should fly at default Vcore. I run an opty 170 which is virtually the same in design that goes 2.8 at default Vcore showing 1.33V. Hottest I've ever seen this chip is about 45C at prolonged full load.

 

 

the FX-60....ive been told that if needs a . load of volatage to get up to the 2900 +

 

 

my ram has no issues overclocking.....quite good stable ram.....even at 250 + mhz

 

thanks brothers.....

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Why are you feeding the chip so much voltage? 1.55V seems a bit over the top for a chip that should fly at default Vcore. I run an opty 170 which is virtually the same in design that goes 2.8 at default Vcore showing 1.33V. Hottest I've ever seen this chip is about 45C at prolonged full load.

 

I agree on this one! Don't go over 1.45V unless you are really sure you are hitting the OC wall. You should keep your temps under 50C!!! This is the max temp. Like already mentioned you ram speed is off. You are running PC4000 at PC3200 speeds. You ram should run at 250MHZ default at 2.8V. :) Let us know how you make out! :)

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Just for the annoyance...:P.....can someone gimme there idea on my settings for bios

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

 

FSB Bus Frequency............................. - 200

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - AUTO

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - 14.5

PCI eXpress Frequency......................... - 101Mhz

 

CPU VID StartUp Value......................... - 1.55

 

CPU VID Control............................... - 1.55

CPU VID Special Control....................... - Auto

LDT Voltage Control........................... - 1.30v

Chip Set Voltage Control...................... - 1.60v

DRAM Voltage Control.......................... - 2.50v

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 200=RAM/FSB:01/01

Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 3

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 4

Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 8

Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 4

Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 15 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3684 Cycles

DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto

DQS Skew Value................................ - 0

DRAM Drive Strength........................... - Auto

DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - Auto

Max Async Latency............................. - 9ns

DRAM Response Time............................ - Normal

Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.5ns

IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter............................... - Disable

R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 16 x

Bypass Max.................................... - 07 x

32 Byte Granularity........................... - Disable(4 Bursts)

 

 

*** just edit it and put WHAT YOU THINK *** would be best settings for me

 

if i get 2800MHZ stable with my Gigabyte galaxy water cooling ill be happy......:D

 

cheers guys and most appreciated......

 

 

 

so u reckon i can get 2800 - 2900 under 1.5 v?

 

i reckon its bloody impossible......:(...but we will wait and see!!!!!!

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Here are OCZ's timings for your ram on the Expert (you can find the link in my previous post):

 

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FSB Bus Frequency.............................  250 MHz

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio.......................  4x

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio.......................  xxx

PCI eXpress Frequency.........................  100



CPU Startup Voltage...........................  Startup

CPU Voltage ..................................  xxx

Above CPU VID.................................  Auto

LDT Voltage ..................................  1.20v 

ChipSet (NF4) Voltage ........................  1.52V

DRAM Voltage .................................  2.71v

+0.03 if not 3.2V ............................  N/A



Memclock (DRAM Frequency) ....................  200

1T/2T Timing (Command Per Clock)..............  1T (CPC Enabled)

CAS Latency (Tcl).............................  3T

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd).....................  4T

Min RAS# active time (Tras)...................  8T

Row precharge time (Trp)......................  3T

Row Cycle time (Trc)..........................  11T

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)...................  16T

Row to Row delay (Trrd).......................  3T

Write recovery time (Twr).....................  3T

Write to Read delay (Twtr)....................  2T

Read to Write delay (Trwt)....................  3T

Refresh Period (Tref).........................  3120

DRAM Bank Interleave..........................  Enabled



DQS Skew Control..............................  Auto

DQS Skew Value................................  0

DRAM Drive Strength...........................  Level 07

DRAM Data Drive Strength......................  Level 2 (Reduce 30%)

Max Async Latency.............................  8ns

DRAM Response Time............................  Normal

Read Preamble Time............................  6ns

IdleCycle Limit...............................  128

Dynamic Counter...............................  Disable

R/W Queue Bypass..............................  16x

Bypass Max....................................  4x

32 Byte Granularity...........................  Disable (4 Bursts)

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Do you have the AMD x2 processor driver installed?

 

 

Are you sure the previous owner didn't over volt the cpu & it won't OC now because of it?

 

 

Stay away from half multipliers for the cpu. Use 12, 13, 14, etc. NOT 12.5, 13.5.

 

Taken from the OC Guide:

**Important note**

On all a64 systems it is not recommended to use half multipliers ( i.e. 8.5,9.5,10.5) because this will put your ram on a ratio which means it will be running slower then you think and not the same as you have your HTTFSB set to no matter what..

 

A quote here from Wild shows what happens to your ram speed when using half multis…

 

Originally Posted by Wildstyle

(DRAM frequency) X (RAM divider) = CPU frequency

 

Dividers are all whole numbers, so if you use a half multiplier your memory speed is calculated by using the next highest whole number.

 

An example...

 

200X10 = 200/10 (divider) = 200MHz

 

200x10.5 = 2100/11 (next highest divider) = 190MHz (effective memory frequency.)

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Do you have the AMD x2 processor driver installed?

 

 

Are you sure the previous owner didn't over volt the cpu & it won't OC now because of it?

 

 

Stay away from half multipliers for the cpu. Use 12, 13, 14, etc. NOT 12.5, 13.5.

 

Taken from the OC Guide:

**Important note**

On all a64 systems it is not recommended to use half multipliers ( i.e. 8.5,9.5,10.5) because this will put your ram on a ratio which means it will be running slower then you think and not the same as you have your HTTFSB set to no matter what..

 

A quote here from Wild shows what happens to your ram speed when using half multis…

 

 

will test this tomorrow....:D

 

 

um....im not sure but he said he got it to 3.2 on water chilled (custom water cooling wif pipes running outside)

 

so i reckon it was running on high voltage.....but im not certain...:/

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Try the settings and let us know how you made out! Remember to test the Ram first! That means run the CPU as close as you can to default (10x250) and run memtest off your BIOS for a few hours to see if you pass without any problems.

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