chris.y2k.r1 Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Ok All, After careful research here is my plan for building a new (AM2) system. Please check out what I've chosen and feel free to provide constructive advice. Also, I will be going SLI but I will start off with 1 card. Please note that I have not decided which of the two types of memory I want to go with. Advice/expirience with those two would be very helpful. I'm not looking to get the bleeding edge products. I want a very new system for a middle of the road investment. I expect to be able to get a nice OC with this setup. Anyone have any guesses at were I should be able to get this system to run stable at? I do plan to OC as much as possible all parts. Is anything going to bottleneck me (I doubt it - but am open if I've missed something). Thanks in advance!: Case $280 Thermaltake Kandalf http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811133024 VD4000BWS Black Chassis: 1.0mm SECC Front door: Aluminum ATX/ BTX Tower Computer Case - Retail PowerSupply $119 OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817341001 Motherboard $188 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813136014 DFI LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CPU $213 AMD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819105039 Opteron 1212 Santa Ana 2.0GHz Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor Model OSA1212IAA6CS - OEM Heatsink $30 (Probably not going to be needed - water cooled case) http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingRe...N82E16835129045 Memory (#1) $200 Kingston http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820134089 HyperX 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Desktop Memory Model KHX8000D2/1G - Retail or Memory(#2) $217 OCZ Titanium http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227136 Alpha VX2 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Desktop Memory Model OCZ2TA1000VX21G - Retail Hard Drive $109 SAMSUNG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822152046 SpinPoint T Series HD400LJ 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Video Card $240 XFX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814150195 PVT71GUQL3 GeForce 7900GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail CD/DVD RW $32 SAMSUNG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151136 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black IDE Model SH-S182M/BEBN - OEM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Hello, Ever thought about the Intel core 2 Duo CPUs? One thing that I always go for is 2 hard drives. Instead of the 1 400GB why not get 2 200GB drives? + If one fails you still have another one. + Good to store data in case you need to format one. + Better to have the virtual memory page file on a separate hard drive. You must buy a dual channel kit for the best possible performance. Out of the 2 kits you mentioned the OCZ one is better but have another look at your options and DC kits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.y2k.r1 Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Hello, Ever thought about the Intel core 2 Duo CPUs? One thing that I always go for is 2 hard drives. Instead of the 1 400GB why not get 2 200GB drives? + If one fails you still have another one. + Good to store data in case you need to format one. + Better to have the virtual memory page file on a separate hard drive. You must buy a dual channel kit for the best possible performance. Out of the 2 kits you mentioned the OCZ one is better but have another look at your options and DC kits. First of all thanks for replying. I will definitely be adding more hard drives. I am starting with 400GB because they are cheap and I will need a ton of space. I will keep adding large drives. My XP2600M already has 5 drives totally over 700GB, I don't want that many drives in this machine for similar space. Good observation however. I always partition everything down to make it managable. I realize if this drive goes, so does my system however I have had tremendous luck with Samsung drives. IMHO by far the best. As for Intel, yes, they really are impressive but I'm just loving AMD. Nothing more to it really. Thanks for the info on the memory, I will look at my choices again. Perhaps 2GB matches mem then? Or are you saying get 2x512 matched sticks? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest laydback Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 For $30-50 more you can get a 7950 512MB Video card. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814150189 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814130066 Dude, don't get that 7900GT, that's a rip off for that price. Splave is the FS/FT thread has a brand new eVGA 7950 he's selling for $210 shipped! As far as getting two drives, I think maybe Sharp was suggesting it for a RAID-5 config. Which is good advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Yeah a 2x1GB kit. As far as getting two drives, I think maybe Sharp was suggesting it for a RAID-5 config. Which is good advice. I wasn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.y2k.r1 Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Yeah a 2x1GB kit. I wasn't I was guess then, that going for the mem that is optimized for the NF590 (IE the OCZ 2x1GB Setup) would kinda be OK? It's only another $60 or so. Again, thanks - good point. Laydback - Thanks for the advice, I will defnitely look at the 7950. Appreciated. Anyone else have any other thoughts? What about the 4000 X2 vs the 1212?? Do you all think that the Opteron is the better choice of the two? Should I expect 3 GZ with proper cooling? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0tter Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 2GB at least 7900GS are better value > 7900GT new. (id look for 7900 series used) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.y2k.r1 Posted January 25, 2007 Posted January 25, 2007 Am I correct in understanding that the only cards that will run DirectX10 and SLI are the 8800s? If so, I might as well.... $400 - ouch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoken Joe Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Am I correct in understanding that the only cards that will run DirectX10 and SLI are the 8800s? If so, I might as well.... $400 - ouch. The road to spending a ton........ DirectX10 wont be a big deal for a year most likely. I dont see the lower 8800 as being that great of a bang for the buck yet. The 7900GS is a steal or if you want more performance get a 19XX 250MB card if you dont mind over clocking they have a ton of headroom. There should be mainstream DX10 cards out in a month if you hate to upgrade. You might want to get another case- you are better off getting a good case and the cooling seperate. There are some great kits out there that are not that expensive like the corsair. You really need to at least look at the stacker if you are a hard drive addict and or if you want watercooling. Tons of room and great cooling. The AMD's dont make much heat so there is no hurry air cooling is very effective unless you simply much have the best but the TT is not it. That is a whole seperate thread though plenty like it in the cooling section. Dont really plan on SLI unless you get both at the same time in a year when the card goes down in price it will be because there are much better cards out. Save a little now to put in the bank for a later upgrade when the DX10 cards get cheap and fast. Any good card right now is going to be a huge upgrade in all ballyhooing. Agreed 2gb memory minimum! That is actually a good deal on the hard drive though Hitachi's are a little faster two 320's- that would be nice! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
godlyatheist Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 Ok All, After careful research here is my plan for building a new (AM2) system. Please check out what I've chosen and feel free to provide constructive advice. Also, I will be going SLI but I will start off with 1 card. Please note that I have not decided which of the two types of memory I want to go with. Advice/expirience with those two would be very helpful. I'm not looking to get the bleeding edge products. I want a very new system for a middle of the road investment. I expect to be able to get a nice OC with this setup. Anyone have any guesses at were I should be able to get this system to run stable at? I do plan to OC as much as possible all parts. Is anything going to bottleneck me (I doubt it - but am open if I've missed something). Thanks in advance!: Case $280 Thermaltake Kandalf http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811133024 VD4000BWS Black Chassis: 1.0mm SECC Front door: Aluminum ATX/ BTX Tower Computer Case - Retail PowerSupply $119 OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817341001 Motherboard $188 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16813136014 DFI LANPARTY UT NF590 SLI-M2R/G Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail CPU $213 AMD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16819105039 Opteron 1212 Santa Ana 2.0GHz Socket AM2 Dual Core Processor Model OSA1212IAA6CS - OEM Heatsink $30 (Probably not going to be needed - water cooled case) http://www.newegg.com/Product/CustratingRe...N82E16835129045 Memory (#1) $200 Kingston http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820134089 HyperX 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Desktop Memory Model KHX8000D2/1G - Retail or Memory(#2) $217 OCZ Titanium http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227136 Alpha VX2 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) Desktop Memory Model OCZ2TA1000VX21G - Retail Hard Drive $109 SAMSUNG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16822152046 SpinPoint T Series HD400LJ 400GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM Video Card $240 XFX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814150195 PVT71GUQL3 GeForce 7900GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail CD/DVD RW $32 SAMSUNG http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16827151136 18X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology Black IDE Model SH-S182M/BEBN - OEM X1950XT-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16814161047 ocz psu is a lot cheaper on ZZF http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetai...ductCode=316504 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fps_shawn Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 i am a AMD addict too a fanboy.. but right now the C2D is your best best for pure OCing.. a p5b deluxe + e6300 = 3.2ghz+ usually.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
disturbed6dws Posted January 31, 2007 Posted January 31, 2007 lian li instead of kendalf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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