emissary Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 (edited) Hi Guys, Me again. Sorry. I am still not having any luck with my cpu temps. I took out my Barton 2500 and cleaned it up, then I re-applied some arctic silver 3 and I am getting temps of 42C idle, WITH the side panel off!!! I am now starting to get a little concerned. The method I used of re-applying my as3 was to 1st clean both the cpu and hs, then once both were shiny and spotless, I then applied as3 to the bottom of my hs where it would make contact with the cpu die, and then I cleaned it off with a lint free cloth so the microscpoic valleys in the hs were filled, ala the as3 website guide. Then I applied a smally amount, about tthe size of a grain of rice, to the centre of the cpu die and set the hs on. Unlike before, I did not smooth out the as3 all over the cpu die, I merely added the small amount to the centre and then set the hs on top, as having been mentioned on these forums this was a better way of doing it. But alas my temps are even greater now than before. I am starting to get a bit pi**ed off now as I seem to be hitting a different hurdle each time I seem to rectify another problem. What am I doing wrong??? Perhaps I should just give up this ocing game and leave it to the professionals... Thing is, I ike playing about with my pc as I tend to learn a lot better wih a hands on approach...plus its fun!!! Any advice guys? Should I just say to hell with it and get water cooling or is there a blemish of hope??? emissary Edited November 7, 2003 by emissary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hick Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 is the fan on the right way? my friend got a heatsink the other day and the fan was attacted when he put it on it was upside down. just a thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goregoyle Posted November 7, 2003 Posted November 7, 2003 not 100% sure of the time but ac3 will take about 100 hours of run time to get to its best thermal transferance point or break-in. how hot is your psu getting? in my old case i was running into a prob with my psu heating up the air my cpu fan was blowing over the cpu. i took the psu out of the case and set it on top and my temps droped 3 deg. if this is not an option try the following: with the side pannel off use zip ties to add a fan to the outside of the case blowing air over the cpu fan. this will help ensure that the cpu is getting room temp air. if this works you can cut a fan hole into the side pannel of your case to have a more professional look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 When I put on the AS3 I spread extremely thin with a edge of a credit card to almost transparent on both the CPU and HSF. I takes about 150-200hrs to break in. Make sure that when you use the AS3 that the silver is coming out of the tube. The tube should be stored with the nozzle facing down so the silver will settle toward the front of the tube. I usually squeeze out a little before applying to make sure I have enough silver material on the CPU. You could usually tell if you have enough silver after the material dries a little bit before spreading it out. I also used rounded cables and had rearrange the cables to create a clear airflow in the case. I also changed the outtake case fan from an 80mm to a 92mm to increase airflow. Also make sure you flashed to the latest bios for your motherboard. Your temps could be wrong until you flash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asus Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 Are you the one using the all copper heatsink? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 ONLY apply the AS3 on ONE surface, NOT BOTH!! Your temps are not that high (unless you are on water) but it sounds like you have too much AS3 to me. And as Asus pointed out, what cooler are you using if not water?!!? Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted November 8, 2003 Posted November 8, 2003 (edited) As for the AS3-I put it on both sides so thin that it is like having it on just the diode. Idle-33c/load-38c. I agree it sounds like Emissary has it on too thick. Also maybe his HSF is not a good conductor of heat. Might look into a better HSF, IE Thermalright, Volcanos, etc.. with a good fan. Edited November 8, 2003 by smithy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emissary Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Thanx 4 the response gentlemen, I am currently using a Vantec Aeroflow for my hs/fan setup. It seems to be working ok, but still after having rearranged my cables inside my case, I still have an idle temp of 42-44C. The minute I play q3, it goes up to like 47C. Anyhoo, I am of the opinino now that my room temp is also factoring in to this equation. My room is quite humid at times so that must influence the temps. I have not spread my as3 thin and have simply placed a 1/2 a grain of rice size blob in the middle, then just placed my hs on top. As per as3 website, I also put some on the hs and then cleaned i off with a lint free cloth. Cant really tell if this has done anything though. I used to only put as3 on the cpu die before but never on the hs suface. Should I return to this method? HELL what is the right method????? What do u guys favour doing? Putting as3 on both hs and cpu die? OR just on cpu die? emissary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Place a small amount on the cpu and then install the HSF (with no AS on it) Lock down the HSF turn on computer, then fold!! +5 degrees when you game or fold is ok. (honestly it's pretty crap good) Rob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Trios Posted November 9, 2003 Posted November 9, 2003 Most of you guys here are wrong. You SHOULD put some as3 on the heat sink and then wipe it off. It fills the microscopic holes that even the very best lapped heatsinks still have. You can tell that it's done this because when you wipe it off you can still see some there, even if you can't wipe it off. Doing this will probably bring another 1-2c off your temps, which is worthwile enough for me. Trios Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 OK do this... first off, clean all the stuff off everything. then apply a small bit to the bottom of the heatsink, then buff it off until its all gone. then put a small pile on the cpu and use your finger (make sure its clean... ok that sound dirty) and spread its around the whole die. use a cloth to remove some and continue to spread it around until is is very even and a thin coat (ie, you can almost see through it, THATS how thin) then put your heatsink on the die, twist it back and forth several times, then clip it down. leave the computer on for 2 days which is how long it takes to finish its set-in phases. then you can check your tempertures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabbit Posted November 10, 2003 Posted November 10, 2003 Do you have the cpu fan connected to a fan controller or just the connection on your motherboard? I have my cpu fan just plugged into my mobo (planning on getting a fan controller soon though). I have come to the conclusion that this actually limits your temperaturs (lower limit that is) Since the mobo adjusts the speed of the fan based on the temps, if they are within an acceptable range, the fan will spin at the speed needed to maintain that temp. Thus, you get a fan controller and crank up the speed to drop your temps more. I notice this when I overclocked because my temps barely even changed but my cpu fan speed kept increasing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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