expresso Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 hi - i am looking to upgrade my case and add watercooling - but not sure if i should watercool the chip also or use the evercool fan from SVC. ? any suggestions - ? also for my setup in my Sig - whats the best watercooling kit - remember this is my first time with watercool and like a complete kit or at least what i need - thats easy and simple to install and understand - thanks - also should i watercool my video card also ? how hard is to watercool all 3 - cpu - video and chip ? thanks - i check back later for your ideas - also any links to good cases -- i liked the clear cases but i hear they are crap - so maybe a nice case with a big side window - i want a little extra room this time - my current case is -- 17" wide - by 19" long and 8" wide -- midtower type - but i want one with 120mm fans front and back and maybe the top or side - and a little extra room with side mount hard drives etc. -- thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoetuS Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Best to avoid watercooling the chip, way more hassle then it is worth. Get the evercool from SVC. I replaced my stock chipset fan with the evercool when I installed my WC & it dropped 10c off my temps... As far as kits go - Stay Away From Them!! if you want to spend $100-$150 on a watercooling kit, Don't. Save you money & get a good HSF. It will perform about the same as a cheap WC kit. If you really want to get into watercooling, check out DangerDen or Swiftech. They are the way to go for sure. Be prepared to spend $200-$300 on a good setup. And check out the WaterCooling links in my Sig to start out. Take your time and read both guides. As for a case, I recommend Thermaltake Armor or Cooler Master Stacker.. You won't go wrong with either of those. And if you really have the money to spend, get a Lian Li case, they are a dream to work with... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
expresso Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 thanks - i have to check them out - i dont want to get a cheap water kit if its not going to do better than my xp90 - - i am not sure which danger den is the right one for me - also what your saying is - its better to just water cool the processor and leave the chip alone - using a evercool fan ? what about the video card - ? how much of a hassle would it be to water cool the chip - ? i just figured since i was doing the CPU - it would nt be that much extra - just a waterblock and extra hoses ? does danger den make a kit also ? -- i dont know what parts i would need if i had to get them each pieace by pieace - thats why i asked for a kit which has everything i need - so i dont have to figure out and guess what i need -- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 watercooling is a waste of money on the Ultra-D/SLI-DR (any NF4 series motherboard) stick to the $10 or less EVercool chipset cooler Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
expresso Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 ok - i take your advice - - so should i get a water cooker kit for the video card also ? i have a 6800 xtreme card - in my Sig - would that be a big job to add that in the picture or just watercool the processor with a danger den - i would first get a case which i havnt found one yet that i like - and i will try to talk to CPU Killer - i read from one of your posts that he takes care of danger den products -- so - do i water the card also or just the cpu ? and if you know - which danger den kit or parts would i need excatly - if you have a link to them that be great so i can check them out and learn more about it - do you think i really need to lap the evercool fan ? thanks - Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Septem Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 so - do i water the card also or just the cpu ? and if you know - which danger den kit or parts would i need excatly - if you have a link to them You can watercool the card if you want to. If it's running hot or just too loud, it's up to you. From what I gather it may be easier to do everything all at once rather than having to completely redo it later. do you think i really need to lap the evercool fan ? You don't absolutely have to. It will improve your temperatures by a few degrees at best, which may be worth it to you but that's for you to decide. There's also another chipset cooler that's gaining popularity on DFI-street and that's the Thermalright HR-05 and HR-05-SLI (for your board you want the SLI). Temperatures seem to be on par with the Evercool and it cools passively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
expresso Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 i see how it goes i guess - if its not too much more effort involved i may try it or leave it for later one - because i am not sure at what point i would change my card - then who knows if the block i got would fit on a newer card etc. - but now what concerns me is - how to get the watercooling started once installed - i dont feel too good about jump starting my psu ?? - is that the only way to start the watercooling process once everything is installed - theres go to be another way right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Septem Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 i see how it goes i guess - if its not too much more effort involved i may try it or leave it for later one - because i am not sure at what point i would change my card - then who knows if the block i got would fit on a newer card etc. - but now what concerns me is - how to get the watercooling started once installed - i dont feel too good about jump starting my psu ?? - is that the only way to start the watercooling process once everything is installed - theres go to be another way right ? Jump starting the PSU isn't as bad as it sounds. All you're essentially doing is, first off unplug all the power connections from everything except your fans and your pump, and then use a paper clip to bridge the connection between the green wire on the ATX plug and any ground on the ATX plug. There's essentially no current going through the paper clip and there's no way you can be electrocuted by it. What you're doing is testing the system for leaks. If it leaks with the computer on, it can lose its effectiveness and your parts may overheat, or worse - it could short out your electronics. Although if you use a non-conductive fluid it won't be as dangerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
expresso Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 so i would just have to use a paper clip to touch two spots on the power connecter together and a ground and it would just start the psu ? then what do i do - just let it run that way holding the paper clip - ? i guess i have to decide when i get to the point what i will do - but if thats the only way - i wont have a choice unless i just plug it and boot up - my concern is the water cooling fluid - would it start working right away if i just boot it up to cool the parts etc. - i dont want to run it without them getting cooled quickly - it should work instantly i would guess once the power goes on and pump working right ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Septem Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 so i would just have to use a paper clip to touch two spots on the power connecter together and a ground and it would just start the psu ? then what do i do - just let it run that way holding the paper clip - ? i guess i have to decide when i get to the point what i will do - but if thats the only way - i wont have a choice unless i just plug it and boot up - my concern is the water cooling fluid - would it start working right away if i just boot it up to cool the parts etc. - i dont want to run it without them getting cooled quickly - it should work instantly i would guess once the power goes on and pump working right ? Just two wires, the green one and a ground. And if you stick the paper clip into the plug it should stay although I've never done this. It's not really an issue of the coolant "working". All it does is provide thermal mass to carry the heat away as it's being created by the processor. It's not going to get real hot right away and then gradually cool down or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
expresso Posted October 13, 2006 Posted October 13, 2006 ok - i know i will learn the hard way -- i give it a shot when i get there -- i am having a hard time picking a case now that i like with a window but not too big or full tower for my desk - most cases are really ugly -- i been searching for days and cant come to a conclusion yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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