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For the love of god I carnt clock my processor very high

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Hey all got a 4200+ dual core on an expert, latest bios, 2GB OCZ 3200 Cas 2-3-2-5 1t ram, wont run higher than 2530mhz stable, even 2580mhz crashes out running dual prime, iv tried every single various settings under the sun, + I carnt seem to get my chipset higher than ~ 235mhz stable no matter what, even if I use mutlipliuers and that so ram and CPU run nearly the same, but chipset faster it again fails prime after like 1 min:mad: REALLY strange, also the whole system is now water cooled, chipset stays at 40c, as does cpu, WHAT CAN I DO ? AM I MISSING SOMETHING ? an example of the various ram timings iv tried is below:

 

DRAM Frequency Set - 140

Command Per Clock (CPC) - enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 2

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 03 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 05 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp) - 02 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc) - 08 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 04 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr) - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref) - 3120 Cycles

Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - auto

DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control - Auto

DQS Skew Value - 0

DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8

DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4

Max Async Latency - 10.0 Nano Seconds

DRAM Response Time - Normal

Read Preamble Time - 8.0 Nano Seconds

IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter - Disabled

R/W Queue Bypass - 16x

Bypass Max - 04x

32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

 

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Try these settings.

 

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

FSB Bus Frequency - 240, 245, 250, 255

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio - 3

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 11

PCI eXpress Frequency - 105Mhz

 

CPU VID StartUp Value - Startup

 

CPU VID Control - 1.55v

CPU VID Special Control - Above VID * 102%

LDT Voltage Control - 1.20v

Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.52v

DRAM Voltage Control - 2.7V

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Settings: 9/10

Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 08 Bus Clock

Row precharge time (Trp) - 04 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc) - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 01 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 02 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref) - 3017 Cycles

Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - 01 (Depending on your Bios this may be defferent.)

DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled (If undstable turn this off)

 

DQS Skew Control - Auto

DQS Skew Value - 0

DRAM Drive Strength - 7 (if unstable lower 2 at a time while testing)

DRAM Data Drive Strength - 3 (if unstable lower one at a time testing)

Max Async Latency - Auto

DRAM Response Time - normal

Read Preamble Time - Auto

IdleCycle Limit - 16 Cycles (if unstable, go up in number one at a time testing)

Dynamic Counter - Disable (May or may not help with stability or performance, needs testing once stable)

R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x

Bypass Max - 04 x

32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

 

 

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DRAM Frequency Set - 166

Command Per Clock (CPC) - enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 04 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp) - 04 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc) - 08 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 16 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 04 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr) - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref) - 3120 Cycles

Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - auto

DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control - Auto

DQS Skew Value - 0

DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8

DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4

Max Async Latency - 10.0 Nano Seconds

DRAM Response Time - Normal

Read Preamble Time - 8.0 Nano Seconds

IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter - Disabled

R/W Queue Bypass - 16x

Bypass Max - 04x

32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)

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Oh the above is just an example, usually im running everything (Ram) at 2-3-2-5 1t, 210mhz 2.72v no worries, cpu 1.472v fine, had cpu up to 1.65v on water, but makes no difference, PSU is FSP 700Watt

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Have you tested the cpu and the ram seperately finding each its max OC? Have you tested the ram sticks with Memtest @ stock to find if they are the culprit? Try those and see what happens.

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Have you tested the cpu and the ram seperately finding each its max OC? Have you tested the ram sticks with Memtest @ stock to find if they are the culprit? Try those and see what happens.

 

Yeah done that, RAM runs upto 210mhz 2-3-2-5 1t fine, no worries, if the CPU is clocked slower it even runs 220mhz at those timings, iv had the ram running really slow (between 180-190mhz) and tried to push the cpu up higher, still no go, it always fails prime, the only 'sweet spot' is what I have now, volts, etc seem to do sfa, im guessing im going to need advanced knowledge of the:

 

'DQS Skew Control - Auto

DQS Skew Value - 0

DRAM Drive Strength - Level 8

DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4

Max Async Latency - 10.0 Nano Seconds

DRAM Response Time - Normal

Read Preamble Time - 8.0 Nano Seconds

IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter - Disabled

R/W Queue Bypass - 16x

Bypass Max - 04x

32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)'

 

Type of settings? Any1 running a similar setup ?

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Dont be afraid to try loosening the ram timmings...Just because you can get them to a certain speed doesnt mean they'll play well wit the cpu..

 

with water do you have any fans on the board still...? you'll still need 1 or 2...

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cheers, also what ram chips are the OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC3200 Dual Channel Platinum Series EL-DDR based on ? TCCD? VX? TCC5?

 

Can't be any of those chips,they don't come in 1GB sticks

 

Crucials are Micron,so that leaves Samsung UCCC or Infineon,I'd guess Infineon

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