Ubuntu Live CD problems..

n1ce_hat · July 12, 2006

weird.

i dont know what to say, everything seems to check out..

July 12, 2006

Ubuntu is great, have been running it for years on my server, and I now run Dapper on my main machine, without dual booting. I don't dual boot because I run all my games on Ubuntu, these games being ( WC3TFT,STEAM,PREY,BF2,and America's Army). I love Ubuntu because only I create the problems with it.

-Will

about your display problem, try finding a version of Ubuntu that runs a different desktop environment instead of GNOME. I run a 6600gt also I wonder why your having a problem.

--edit

also, try using Knoppix live CD, torrent the iso and burn it using Nero or something

July 12, 2006

I am having a display problem with ubuntu as well. I ran dual monitors in windows, but now my second monitor is all pixley? any suggestions. I don't mean to steal the thread.

July 12, 2006

Neezer, you need to activate TwinView, google it. You will need to backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and edit it. Make sure you know how to restore it through the console if you mess up your X configuration.

Good luck

-Will

July 12, 2006

these games being ( WC3TFT,STEAM,PREY,BF2,and America's Army). I love Ubuntu because only I create the problems with it.

Woah woah woah... You can run BF2 on Ubuntu? TELL ME PLEASE!!!

July 12, 2006

Timmay do you have AIM or MSN, message me.

AIM: DemitasseDesign

MSN: [email protected]

n1ce_hat · July 12, 2006

would games run faster or slower under linux?

July 12, 2006

I think that most games tend to run around the same speed, however, I think that OCing your GPU can be more difficult under Linux as the majority of the tools used to OC are Windows specific.

I think that because its a live CD it has to make some assumptions about your graphics setup that it would be told if you actually installed it. You might want to make it easier for it to do so by only having one display connected if you currently have both, and using a DVI cable to connect your display if you aren't already. As text mode seems to be working fine, it looks like your X configuration needs some help.

I don't know if you have already tried this, but http://www.ubuntu.com/support/free lists a large number of support options from the Ubuntu community.

There appear to be at least two LUGs (Linux User Groups) in your area: http://www.wpcug.ca/main.htm (its under fourm groups, stupid frames) and http://www.muug.mb.ca/ I've always found the local user group to be one of the best resources when it comes to Linux so I would recommed you look into attending a meeting and speaking in person to other Linux users.

If you are still having problems in a day or two I'll ask my LUG we have a meeting on the 19th, but someone might be able to help you faster then that.

And don't get discouraged, when I was installing FC5 I had to use the option for a nCurses install because of issues with the graphical installer, but once it was actually installed everything worked out fine.

July 12, 2006

Every game you run on linux depends, some like Prey,Doom,Quake are coded to run on opengl so you are running native framerates. If you are running a game like HL:2 which relies on directx (i assume you will be running cedega) the program, cedega, needs to comprimise and run another layer code over linux to simulate a windows environment and to emulate directx meaning you most likely will not be getting native framerates. I have noticed a 10-15fps drop in directx games, but then again it all depends on optimizations you have customly made because some games get a 10fps frame drop and some get a 2-3. Also cedega allows you to select to run the game in win98/win2k/nt4/winxp which all have different results for each game.

-Will

when i said native framerates i was referring to framerates in windows

also, nVidia has their own drivers and you can enable coolbits so you can overclock your gfx card just like in windows

mkw87 · July 17, 2006

I am having a display problem with ubuntu as well. I ran dual monitors in windows, but now my second monitor is all pixley? any suggestions. I don't mean to steal the thread.

How have you configured your xorg.conf file? You have to set up the second monitor properly, if you need help PM me and I can help you get it running. I currently have mine set up as separate desktops instead of stretching it to one big one, I find I like it this way more than one giant stretched desktop.

Below is my xorg.conf file you asked for. Note it will need minimal editing to ensure it works for your setup, but it will need some nonetheless. I have commented the important sections that you would have to possibly edit:

# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)

#

# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using

# values from the debconf database.

#

# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.

# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)

#

# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*

# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg

# package.

#

# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated

# again, run the following command:

#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg



# This section tells the x server how to set things up

Section "ServerLayout"

  Identifier	 "Default Layout"

   Screen 0	   "Screen[0]"

   Screen 1	   "Screen[1]" RightOf "Screen[0]"

  InputDevice	"Generic Keyboard" "CoreKeyboard"

  InputDevice	"Configured Mouse" "CorePointer"

#	InputDevice	"stylus" "SendCoreEvents"

#	InputDevice	"cursor" "SendCoreEvents"

#	InputDevice	"eraser" "SendCoreEvents"

EndSection





Section "Files"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/misc"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/cyrillic"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/Type1"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/100dpi"

   FontPath		"/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"

   # path to defoma fonts

   FontPath		"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"

EndSection



Section "Module"

   Load	"i2c"

   Load	"bitmap"

   Load	"ddc"

   Load	"dri"

   Load	"extmod"

   Load	"freetype"

   Load	"glx"

   Load	"int10"

   Load	"type1"

   Load	"vbe"

EndSection



Section "InputDevice"

   Identifier	  "Generic Keyboard"

   Driver		  "kbd"

   Option		  "CoreKeyboard"

   Option		  "XkbRules"	  "xorg"

   Option		  "XkbModel"	  "pc104"

   Option		  "XkbLayout"	 "us"

EndSection



Section "InputDevice"

   Identifier	  "Configured Mouse"

   Driver		  "mouse"

   Option		  "CorePointer"

   Option		  "Device"				"/dev/input/mice"

   Option		  "Protocol"			  "ExplorerPS/2"

   Option		  "ZAxisMapping"		  "4 5"

   Option		  "Emulate3Buttons"	   "true"

EndSection



Section "InputDevice"

Driver		"wacom"

Identifier	"stylus"

Option		"Device"		"/dev/wacom"		  # Change to

												 # /dev/input/event

												 # for USB

Option		"Type"		  "stylus"

Option		"ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"			   # Tablet PC ONLY

EndSection



Section "InputDevice"

Driver		"wacom"

Identifier	"eraser"

Option		"Device"		"/dev/wacom"		  # Change to

												 # /dev/input/event

												 # for USB

Option		"Type"		  "eraser"

Option		"ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"			   # Tablet PC ONLY

EndSection



Section "InputDevice"

Driver		"wacom"

Identifier	"cursor"

Option		"Device"		"/dev/wacom"		  # Change to

												 # /dev/input/event

												 # for USB

Option		"Type"		  "cursor"

Option		"ForceDevice"   "ISDV4"			   # Tablet PC ONLY

EndSection





#The following 2 sections are for vga LCD monitors, I tagged them by their size simply so I can tell which one is which throughout this file

Section "Monitor"

  Identifier	 "Monitor[0]" #17 inch

  Option		 "DPMS"

EndSection



Section "Monitor"

Identifier	"Monitor[1]" #15 inch

Option		 "DPMS"

EndSection





Section "Device"

   Identifier	  "Device[0]"

#The next line should read the same if you are using the nvidia drivers

#If you did not install the nvidia drivers the driver would be "nv"

   Driver		  "nvidia"

#Do not copy/paste the following line, check your current xorg file and make it match that

   BusID		   "PCI:5:0:0"

   Screen 0

   Option		  "ConnectedMonitor" "Monitor[0]"

# Uncomment the following line to disable the nvidia logo

#	   Option		  "NoLogo" "true"

EndSection



Section "Device"

   Identifier	  "Device[1]"

#The next line should read the same if you are using the nvidia drivers

#If you did not install the nvidia drivers the driver would be "nv"

   Driver		  "nvidia"

#Do not copy/paste the following line, check your current xorg file and make it match that

   BusID		   "PCI:5:0:0"

   Screen 1

   Option		  "ConnectedMonitor" "Monitor[1]"

# Uncomment the following line to disable the nvidia logon logo

#	   Option		  "NoLogo" "true"

EndSection



# The following section contains the resolution and color depths supported by screen[0]

# Edit it to contain the max resolution your monitor is capable of displaying

# Or copy this section from your current xorg.conf file, but keep the Identifier, Device, and Monitor lines the same as this

Section "Screen"

   Identifier	  "Screen[0]"

   Device		  "Device[0]"

   Monitor		 "Monitor[0]"

   DefaultDepth	24

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   1

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   4

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   8

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   15

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   16

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   24

		   Modes		   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

EndSection





# The following section contains the resolution and color depths supported by screen[1]

# Edit it to contain the max resolution your monitor is capable of displaying

# Or copy this section from your current xorg.conf file, but keep the Identifier, Device, and Monitor lines the same as this

Section "Screen"

   Device		  "Device[1]"

   Identifier	  "Screen[1]"

   Monitor		 "Monitor[1]"

   DefaultDepth	24

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   1

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   4

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   8

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   15

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   16

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

   SubSection "Display"

		   Depth		   24

		   Modes		   "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   EndSubSection

EndSection

Remember, what you will want to do is always backup your current xorg.conf file. So, open a terminal, and type the following:

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup

This puts a backup named "xorg.conf_backup" in the same folder, and simply type:

sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf

to restore the backup if anything ever happens to the original and you can't boot.

July 17, 2006

I tried to edit my file, but it says that it is read only. I opened it up using emacs.

mkw87 · July 17, 2006

Yes, you have to open it as sudo.

Again, make sure you back it up first, then:

sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

or replace gedit with emacs (command?) to use emacs. I just use gedit to do this simple stuff because it gets the job done, and is installed by default so I knew you would have it.

Alternatively, if you create a file on your desktop called "foo" and paste the code above into it, you can make it your xorg file by doing the following (AFTER you backup your current):

sudo cp ~/Desktop/foo /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Then, to test if its working you will need to restart the x server (control + alt + backspace should do it, then startx), or just restart (the easier way).

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