scriptcore Posted October 8, 2003 Posted October 8, 2003 Ok, this club is about performance, speed and with those mantaining reliability.. yet most of you run Windows. Windows is very unstable, slow, expensive and insecure. Unix on the other hand (Linux, BSD, OSX) are all fast, secure, stable, free (except OSX and Lindows) and beat Windows in everything an overclocker wants. There seems to be no comparison between the two after you get the facts. Somone said on the post about Longhorn that the number of boxes with Unix on them is decreasing which is total bs, it is rising rapidly. Next, the same person said that Windows has far more users, McDonalds frys have the most sales because it is jammed down the consumers throats with everything you buy, just like Windows. Windows is the best choice for the common user because it is easy to use but if you are in this club you should be seeking the best performance from your machine that you can get, making Unix the OS for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 good try, you've probably never had to use unix in a server environment before. there's a reason windows 2000 server replaced unix as the go-to os for servers when advanced version came out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3bruts1d Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Ehh... Not sure where this came from... but welcome to the site. I know at least a dozen members here who use Linux... and several others that are starting to try it out. /. Article from Sept 28, 03 - "According to Netcraft, the number of Windows 2003 servers has doubled since July, and 5% were running Linux before, which is consistent with the trends they've been observing for some time...." There has been a increase in linux usage, sure... but there has also been a increase in windows useage. And Unix isn't the OS for me... GNU is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 (edited) linux and unix are not in the business world prespective. There are linux servers (less expensive), there are UNIX servers (cost an arm and a leg, sometimes a left nut), and there are windows NT/2000/2003 servers. There are also 2 different levels of windows NT based servers to look at. standard server goes after linux, enterprise/advance server is geared to go after Unix. personally I'd take linux over unix any day of the week. Unix is a big pile of dung if you have to ake changes to it and my appoligies for snapping like that been invlolved in a little dispute over unix and linux vs windows now that's starting to wear thin with me. welcome to the club Edited October 9, 2003 by bigred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overclocker16 Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Sure it's may be fast and secure but you know why it's secure? Not as many people look for the holes in it. More people look in MS products for hole because 90% of the people use it. How many benchmarking programs are out there for *nix? How many games will work on it? I know more and more are going Windows and *nix but still not as many games on *nix as Windows. Sorry to say, but Windows is still for me. I tried RedHat and just couldn't get the hang of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravix Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 well, to each their own. I LOVE linux, and yet I still get sick and tired of fellow users praising it and bashing Windows. Let me choose my own operating system. Sure, I love advice and news about an operating system, but saying "Windows is very unstable, slow, expensive and insecure." without backing that up does me no good whatsoever. In my personal experience, windows xp is very stable, secure, and fast. So, what are you going to present to me to change my mind? Also, for the majority of people here, I personally feel windows is the way to go. People usually beef up their systems for Gaming, not browsing the internet. And, lets face it, even though you can often play games in linux, they NEVER run the same as they would in a windows system. Overclocking system components to get an added edge to your gaming is pointless if your Operating system is holding performance back. Basically, I think Linux is AWESOME, but not for everyone. If you are the type of person that likes tinkering with stuff, check out linux. It is awesome, and pretty stable as well. Also, you can have a very spiffy-looking GUI if you so choose. If you are fairly traditional and don't like change, stick with windows. If you are a hardcore gamer, stick with windows. Windows is tried and true, and with the release of Windows Xp/Win2k it is just as stable as linux ever was. Or, like me you can dual boot and have the best of both worlds. -Proud user of Slackware Linux, Mandrake Linux, and Windows XP Pro Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propane Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Um yea we go to same school - server uses freeBSD - you lose on that one bigred Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
syneze Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Um yea we go to same school - server uses freeBSD - you lose on that one bigred and they allow students to administer the school servers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrusk Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Ok, this club is about performance, speed and with those mantaining reliability.. yet most of you run Windows. Windows is very unstable, slow, expensive and insecure. Unix on the other hand (Linux, BSD, OSX) are all fast, secure, stable, free (except OSX and Lindows) and beat Windows in everything an overclocker wants. There seems to be no comparison between the two after you get the facts. Somone said on the post about Longhorn that the number of boxes with Unix on them is decreasing which is total bs, it is rising rapidly. Next, the same person said that Windows has far more users, McDonalds frys have the most sales because it is jammed down the consumers throats with everything you buy, just like Windows. Windows is the best choice for the common user because it is easy to use but if you are in this club you should be seeking the best performance from your machine that you can get, making Unix the OS for you. sad sad sad.... Preaching to us that unix is better will not make us switch, let alone even think about switching. There just isnt enough games or anything overclockers would care about for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Um yea we go to same school - server uses freeBSD - you lose on that one bigred ONE school! okay, I can say I've sat thru the MACUL conferences (tech departments around the state of michigan are ALL required to be there). and it's about a 50/50 split between novell and windows there. unix and linux maybe had 1 or 2 districts in michigan... WOW! we'll see again cuz I'm going back to Macul in november to see how things might have changed. and I can tell you the real world things are different than your little play house there kevin. when you ahve a job that you actually get paid for, and have to be responsible for things you'll understand. until then, keep whining and have fun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d3bruts1d Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 There just isnt enough games or anything overclockers would care about for it. Wrong. Half Life Counter Strike Never Winter Nights Everquest Savage America's Army BattleField 1942 RTcW:ET UT:2004 ...I could go on and on.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigred Posted October 9, 2003 Posted October 9, 2003 if you're talking about linux that's one thing. games do get ported over to it. pure and simple. companies will do it if they can sell it! but unix is NOT a gamers system... but then again it comes back to "they're not the same thing" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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