Amd Cooling / P4 Cooling

[Varry]

Hi,

 

I just switched from a barton 2800xp to a P4 system 2.4Ghz. i did this because i blown 1mobo due to oc'ing, and 1 mobo due to the thermaltake subzero 4g: the tt subzero's powersuply was starting to act crazy; switched on and off making my hsf to stop !!!! i tried to fix it and i had to re-mount it; then my screwdriver i use to aply the fittings of the hs to the mobo went loose and so i scratched my 2nd mobo. So all these things are my fault, but what i want to talk about is a few diff's between amd and p4 (not about perf) for example: with the amd it was a pain to keep those temps down (at standaard speeds) while the p4 is much cooler; does the p4 produces less heat or is the stock hsf better than amd's? Another thing why do amd stick with those clip-fittings that require a screw driver?? Sorry, but i must say that on this point p4 scores better: a toolles easy mounting method. Of course there are those that will say; u say that cause u destroyed your mobo mountin it, which is correct, but anyone who mounted and amd hs and a p4 hs will come to the same conclusion?

So i won't diss amd, they are verry good processors, i still have 1 valid nforce mobo and the cpu, with which i'll make a new comp, but i'll keep the p4 as my maincomp. But intel is the way for me.

Edited October 3, 2003 by Varry

[O(V)eGA_l2el)]

Well some AMD motherboards do not have the four holes needed to secure a HSF to the motherboard (which is much better IMO than using clips) plus the HSF(s) with the clips need a flat-head screwdriver in order to securely fit the HSF to the processor. What you do is once the HSF is placed correctly on top (and has thermal compound in the center) you take the flat-head screwdriver and gently pull back and down via the little place where the flat-head end is placed in, if done correctly the HSF should slowly and easily move down and in its proper place.

[AYoKoNA]

If you get a aftermarket heatsink like the sp-94 or slk-900 then you won't be using the stupid plastic retention thing on the p4 anyway.

[Varry]

Wh is wrong woth the stupid plastic retension thingy? I think it does the job pretty well

[AYoKoNA]

I know i use it too. But im getting rid of my subzero 4g , and replacing it with the new thermalright sp-94 heatsink, and i can't use my old plastic retention thing. Ive never snapped mine, but have heard of other doing so.

[ClayMeow]

I've never had a major problem with the retaining clip on amd heatsinks. If you do it properly, like ovega described, it's really not that hard. You're supposed to have a lot of pressure on the chip (which is why one of the specs people look at on heatsinks is its weight), and this clip causes a lot of pressure. I've never used intel, so i dunno how much pressure screwing it in provides. Also, ovega was right in saying some amd boards can use screws. My asus a7n8x has the 4 holes surrounding the chip, although i used the clip because i got a socket a heatsink.

 

As for the temperatures, yes, intel chips run cooler than amd chips, so you're not imagining things, and it has nothing to do with intel's stock hsf being better than amd's (i'm not saying intel's stock is NOT better than amd's...i dunno if it is or isn't). I guess this means if you use intel you can run a quieter system, but i dunno, i'm not willing to ever go the intel route to check for myself

[bigred]

the intel stock cooler goes on nice, it cools nice, and you can't really hurt the chip by putting it on wrong (yes I've broken one of the tabs off a P4 bracket before).

 

the amd style is going away. athlon 64 uses a hybrid of the AMD and Intel setup, while opteron uses a similar design to the P4. all much better due to the heat spreader.

[Varry]

Thx for all the valuable info guys!!! i apreciate it!