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Enermax NoiseTaker II 600watt:

 

Great PSU. Worked in 3 other PCs being newer and older mobos. The infinity board loved it. I have pumped it up to a 27% OC then back down to 15% becuase heat issues. Very stable on a mobo that will take it. Only one of them was running the 5v at 5.5 Volts. I never really found out why it was doing that.

 

So with the $160 I am getting refunded for the RMA of the PSU. I should get a OCZ PSU being the most successful PSU for the Expert board?

 

The most succesful I have seen are the Fortron Epsilon units (600W or 700W). If that is simply a factor of there not being that many people with them or if they are at lower risk...I couldn't tell you. I know mine works fine and most others do as well. The OCZ 600W seem to have more issues than the 520W, but they are not immune either.

 

The Epsilon's are not on the recommended list as the list is getting outdated, but RGone (one of the ubermods) recommends them all the time and ExRoadie (another ubermod) uses one as well. If the new PSU does not work, I would RMA the board

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... Even the FSP Epsilon units, which at first appeared to be immune are now starting to show up with cold-boot issues with certain individual Expert boards....

You might remember I asked you some time ago when there was another thread about this issue. This is not to argue with you, it's simply out of interest since I myself own an Epsilon:

 

- I've tried hard, but I've just been able to find two users reporting a cold-boot issue - even though it seems to be very slight indeed - so have you seen more reports?

 

I repeat what I stated above: "this is not to argue..."

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Lima if you have a problems with you psu start a thread no need worry about problems you dont have yet. There are too many real ones in life to deal with already.

 

 

 

Deleted unusefull info some times I just talk too much:rolleyes:

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Just call customer service and get a rma number. Good for 10 days. They take forever to refund though. Good luck.

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You might remember I asked you some time ago when there was another thread about this issue. This is not to argue with you, it's simply out of interest since I myself own an Epsilon:

 

- I've tried hard, but I've just been able to find two users reporting a cold-boot issue - even though it seems to be very slight indeed - so have you seen more reports?

 

I repeat what I stated above: "this is not to argue..."

 

Hey KimTjik, not sure where the arguement might be ;) . Nope I have only seen the two reports...so when I said they are not immune, I meant just that. In other words, there are two reports of cold-boot issues with these PSUs & Expert boards so it seems they are not immune...but still seem low risk.

 

It is hard to know if there are very few reports of problems with these PSUs because they simply have fewer problems or if there are fewer reports because there are simply not as many people using these PSUs. Perhaps more will show up now that more people are buying them...perhaps not.

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Hey KimTjik, not sure where the arguement might be ;) . Nope I have only seen the two reports...so when I said they are not immune, I meant just that. In other words, there are two reports of cold-boot issues with these PSUs & Expert boards so it seems they are not immune...but still seem low risk.

 

It is hard to know if there are very few reports of problems with these PSUs because they simply have fewer problems or if there are fewer reports because there are simply not as many people using these PSUs. Perhaps more will show up now that more people are buying them...perhaps not.

I know I'm now hijacking a thread, but it's at least not a deviation from the actual question.

 

There’s no argument! :) It’s just that so many are asking for recommendations and so far I’ve without hesitation recommended the Forton Epsilon. However I would like to stay up-to-date to make sure the recommendation still is valid.

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Well the PSU is in the mail on its way back ti Zipzoomfly.com HQ. I will be buying what ever you guys say is the most stable for my rig. Only thing that will change in the future is adding another video card in about a year.

 

This is what is in or beside my P-180 case.

 

DFI Expert

AMD 3700+

OCZ PC4000 Gold

2x250 Western Digital 16mb cache HD's

BFG 7900 GT

XFI Music extreme

Asus DVD-CDWR

 

Asetek CPU/VGA/Northbridge Dual Fan Radiator (not setup or tested yet.)

I think I will do all of my cuts and fttings once I know I will be keeping this board.

 

PSU - to be decided.

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Hold on, you suggest me to RMA the board and get the DFI ultra D?

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Hold on, you suggest me to RMA the board and get the DFI ultra D?

 

No sir sorry for any confusion just get one of the PSU's from the recomended list. :nod: If you have the cash. Personaly I would get an Epsilon or the Powerstreem that I and many others are very happy with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"A" List for SLI & Expert PSU's: These are KNOWN to work well with DFI N4 mobos, including Expert!!

 

PC P&C 510 ASL (nVidia SLI Certified)

Only the ASL model has the 8-pin (+12V) EPS connector REQUIRED for the Expert!

$239: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produ...&view=techspecs

 

OCZ PowerStream 600W

http://www.ocztechnology.com/produc...am_power_supply

From $179: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Enermax 600W (New) Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE (W) (nVidia SLI Certified)

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/p...setaker600w.htm

From: $139: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

OCZ PowerStream 520W

http://www.ocztechnology.com/produc...am_power_supply

From $116: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Enermax 535W (New) FMA 535W (nVidia SLI Certified)

Only the current model has the 8-pin (+12V) EPS connector REQUIRED for the Expert!

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/p...su_fma_535w.htm

$83: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PS...6c6f67876470201

 

Sparkle 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLG

http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP550-60PLG.pdf

From $85: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Fortron 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLN

http://www.home2000.net/client/fspg...?linenumber=126

http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/english...ctorname=EPS12V

From $79: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Anandtech used the OCZ PowerStream 520W for all of their SLI testing,

back when the 6800GT/U's first came out & before there was an Nvidia SLI Certified program.

THE OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W HAS PROVEN TO BE THE BEST ALL ROUND PSU FOR DFI N4 MOBOS!

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No sir sorry for any confusion just get one of the PSU's from the recomended list. :nod: If you have the cash. Personaly I would get an Epsilon or the Powerstreem that I and many others are very happy with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"A" List for SLI & Expert PSU's: These are KNOWN to work well with DFI N4 mobos, including Expert!!

 

PC P&C 510 ASL (nVidia SLI Certified)

Only the ASL model has the 8-pin (+12V) EPS connector REQUIRED for the Expert!

$239: http://www.pcpowercooling.com/produ...&view=techspecs

 

OCZ PowerStream 600W

http://www.ocztechnology.com/produc...am_power_supply

From $179: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Enermax 600W (New) Noisetaker 600W EG701AX-VE (W) (nVidia SLI Certified)

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/p...setaker600w.htm

From: $139: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

OCZ PowerStream 520W

http://www.ocztechnology.com/produc...am_power_supply

From $116: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Enermax 535W (New) FMA 535W (nVidia SLI Certified)

Only the current model has the 8-pin (+12V) EPS connector REQUIRED for the Expert!

http://www.enermax.com.tw/english/p...su_fma_535w.htm

$83: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PS...6c6f67876470201

 

Sparkle 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLG

http://www.sparklepower.com/pdf/FSP550-60PLG.pdf

From $85: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Fortron 550W (EPS) FSP550-60PLN

http://www.home2000.net/client/fspg...?linenumber=126

http://www.fsp-group.com.tw/english...ctorname=EPS12V

From $79: http://froogle.google.com/froogle?t...=Search+Froogle

 

Anandtech used the OCZ PowerStream 520W for all of their SLI testing,

back when the 6800GT/U's first came out & before there was an Nvidia SLI Certified program.

THE OCZ POWERSTREAM 520W HAS PROVEN TO BE THE BEST ALL ROUND PSU FOR DFI N4 MOBOS!

 

I am having the cold boot issues with my setup. ONLY when I have to shut the power down with the pc power button. As I explained before only hitting the rocker switch will get it to boot... my ocz 600w should be here tomorrow. If that doesnt work I will try the OCZ GameXStream Power Supply.

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Well I am getting the OCZ PowerStream soon. I just dont have the money after buyin gall of my other parts. I have used two PSU's and neither have worked.

 

Enermax NoiseTaker II & Sintek 600SLI 600W do not work with my Expert.

 

I started with $200 to spend on a PSU. I am now down to 120 after 2 RMA's. If the last one doesnt do it I will get another board. I dont mind tinkering for a month or two jus tweaking, but if the board will not boot. I will just get another one or different kind. Its just being to picky. Though I never have heard of mother boards just not liking PSU's.

 

Why is it that these last few boards have been so picky? Dont they do tests to see what works with them and supply the public that are buying these things with this kinda info.

 

I would rather not have to rely on other people to just to get it to boot.

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Well I am getting the OCZ PowerStream soon. I just dont have the money after buyin gall of my other parts. I have used two PSU's and neither have worked.

 

I was about to really push the Epsilon with the P180 (I have it too) as the Epsilon fits great in this case. But, I see you went with the OCZ so be aware it is a very long PSU, so you will likely have to remove your stock bottom case fan (one in front of the PSU) or install a thinner fan in that space. Yeah some boards have issues (as do some of every other component at some point), if it does not boot with the new PSU, I would definitely RMA the board.

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