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I don't ever step foot into walmart but maybe once per year

 

yes, I love their low prices

 

but

 

I pay slightly higher prices at other stores because I don't like walmart's way of doing business.

 

 

 

also pay attention to this story that I read about a week earlier (and you can see this sort of story on news and independent and public television as well as NPR)

 

 

http://slashdot.org/articles/06/03/28/2235246.shtml

 

The Man Who Said "NO" To Wal-Mart

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Honestly how many people really buy the "sanitized" versions of music?

 

And how many people really buy games there either? It's far easier to go to Best Buy or a dedicated gaming store. I'm sure the masses (i.e. nongamers) that are interested in a game might pick it up there, but the majority look somewhere else.

 

I too think that Wal-Mart really has limited control over the gaming industry. However, they may have a lot of common sense and I doubt they've turned down any good ideas.

 

Edit: Good read about Snapper by the way, I'm actually a huge fan of Simplicity / Snapper products and heard about this a couple years ago. Glad to see some companies staying small and quality.

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And how many people really buy games there either?

 

Walmart does heavy volume in music, dvd's, and video games (xbox/ps2 sells huge at walmart)

 

I'm sure the masses (i.e. nongamers) that are interested in a game might pick it up there, but the majority look somewhere else.

 

guess what

 

majority of those that play video games are not like us

 

they do buy stuff at walmart because walmart is cheap and they buy everything else there

 

how do you think "Deer Hunt" and other games got to be so popular?

 

However, they may have a lot of common sense and I doubt they've turned down any good ideas

 

it isn't the ideas that they reject and refuse to carry (though they have before). It is the CONTENT that they reject and refuse.

 

and they are pretty darn powerful when it comes to this stuff...

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it isn't the ideas that they reject and refuse to carry (though they have before). It is the CONTENT that they reject and refuse.

 

and they are pretty darn powerful when it comes to this stuff...

 

 

Exactly, they're basically censoring what games I'm going to be able to buy.

 

I buy most of my games at Wal-Mart. We don't have a dedicated PC store in my town, but the closest thing would be a Sam Goody, which is usually about $10 more expensive on just about everything.

 

Wal-mart, if they're responsible for the smaller boxes, are probably also the reason we get paper cd sleeves, instead of a freaking jewel case, in a $50 game. Heck, one game I bought even has a jewel case sized manual, and a jewel case back paper thingummy... the paper that sits under the last CD... it's got the CD-key on it, is folded to fit a jewel case, but THERE'S NO jewel case!

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it isn't the ideas that they reject and refuse to carry (though they have before). It is the CONTENT that they reject and refuse.

 

and they are pretty darn powerful when it comes to this stuff...

 

What content is so terrible Wal-Mart refuses to sell it? I'm very interested to see this game...short of being The Sims "Kiddie Porn" expansion pack I don't think theres much they haven't had there - Leisure Suit Larry comes to mind, and of course there are many gruesome games such as Manhunt that they handle.

 

No question Wal-Mart certainly makes a large dent into music and games, but I don't believe its nearly as large as you think, certainly no more than 10% of the market, probably much less than that for games. Remember there are many other large stores (Target and K-Mart come to mind, besides electronics/gaming stores) that compete with Wal-Mart and cut into their sales.

 

Lets say 10% is the actual figure for the amount a games overall in the United States that Wal-Mart sells. The majority of this figure is going to be popular games. The most popular games (HL2, Doom 3) are going to be bought regardless of Wal-Mart selling them. Either they played the originals and loved it, or friends will have it, or online reviews say its the greatest game ever-doesn't matter. Just because Wal-Mart doesn't handle it doesn't mean it can't be bought somewhere else.

 

I do believe the best selling, most popular games (Doom 3, Half Life 2, BF2, world of warcraft) are definitely not sold much at Wal-Mart - at least in computer form. I (naturally) forgot that there are many people that prefer consoles (shudder) and that is quite a large market (Halo alone...). However I still don't think the most popular games console are sold that much there. People think Best Buy when they want a new game (even people not like us), not Wal Mart.

 

And as for Deer Hunter...the people that played those probably didn't have a Best Buy available to them... ;)

 

Forgive my rambling...its very late and the hate I have for Wal-Mart runs deep.

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Since Wal-Mart is the worlds largest retailer they can dictate what they sell. If a product has objectionable content they will refuse to stock it.

 

That's a pretty big market to ignore.

 

Some recording artists produce a special "Wal-Mart" version just for their stores.

 

"Because Wal-Mart reaps about 10 percent of the total domestic music CD sales, most musicians and record companies will agree to create a "sanitized" version specifically for the megastores. Sometimes this entails altering the cover art, as John Cougar Mellencamp did when asked to airbrush out an angel and devil on one of his album covers. Other times, musicians change their lyrics and song titles. Nirvana, for example, changed its song title from "Rape Me" to "Waif Me" for the Wal-Mart version."

 

link goodness...

http://www.pbs.org/itvs/storewars/stores3_2.html

 

I have a problem with the term "censorship" since the artist has the choice not to change their creative vision. There are other outlets for their music so they have a choice.

 

I agree the artist has a choice and in the end $$$$ is all that counts, for most people, but not me - usually

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so lets say... FEAR 2 comes out... (loved fear) and wal mart says "we wont carry it" they will stop production of fear 2? well i have never seen microsoft win xp in walmart, should the xp prodcution line be shutdown by now? lol

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Here is a somwhat scary picture of wallmart- in short many closing of US factorys to makekeep the almighty wallmart happy. http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html

 

 

I dont think some of you guys realize just how huge they are. In many places they are the only place to buy within hours of driving. They are not only the biggest retailer but in many places the only game in town.

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I dont think some of you guys realize just how huge they are. In many places they are the only place to buy within hours of driving. They are not only the biggest retailer but in many places the only game in town.

 

Very true, one of the reasons I hate them. But again generally those places are sparesly populated where it doesn't really matter about gaming sales. Hell, even my hick Iowan hometown (Zwingle...look it up...seriously) was within 45 minutes of a Best Buy. I really think there are very few places that dont have something else near them, it'd have to be in Montana or North Dakota...

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Pretty sad whn you think aobut it

 

 

I myself hate shopping at WAlly World, but i have to. I realize that the people at wally world are very rude, but they carry everything. Another alternitive, witch i think is better, is a store called meijer. This store has everything, its like a sueprwalmart, except less evil.

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The wife works in the electonics department and informs me when stuff goes on clearance. But they are terrible people to work for and she is leaving soon because they care more about the customer than their own staff.

 

For instance and this one is a good one,

 

A woman comes into the store wanting to return an emachines PC says she doesnt like it and wants her money back. my wife says yes mam i can help you so my wife opens the box just to check all the parts and cables and such are in there, and notices the colour of the PC is white not silver like on the box. so she looks at the make and model and it turn out its not even an emachines PC its some crappy old pentium so my wife say mam I think you brought the wrong PC back to the store, Then this woman starts to have a . attack calling for the manager. so he comes and my wife tells him quietly that this lady is trying her luck and the strore would be foolish to take back this PC that she bought a month ago when whats in the box is years old. and he said just give her the 500 dollars back she will complain to head office if we dont

 

My wife was stunned, then when profit sharing comes around they say the store suffered to many losses this year sorry.

 

what way is that to run a business, I mean lets treat the consumer with respect but when they try stuff like this lets treat them with the contempt they deserve.

 

I could not work in retail I'd have to slap some one, put me in a warehouse with a list and im happy.

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Damn Branjo thats really messed up. I was considering putting an application in but reading that makes me want to avoid them like a bad habit.

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