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Hi everyone,

 

This is my first post to your forum, although I've been reading it for a while. There are a lot of quality posters on here!

 

I have recently put together a system (see sig), and I've managed to circumvent most of the problems using knowledge shared on this forum. Thanks for that.

 

I'm not a big overclocker, my main use for this machine is running PMDG 747-400 sim, in virtual cockpit, with headtracker.

 

I know that the BIOS is far from perfect, but I have december's release flashed in. I eagerly await the next!!

 

My main concern is the performance of my RAM. I have researched what my settings should be, but to be honest, whenever I change something from AUTO, I end up having to reset the CMOS!!

 

Sisoft Sandra is reporting a memory benchmark of around 3500Mb (net reports it should be upwards of 6000Mb), which is rubbish for £250 worth of RAM. I'm sure its bios settings, due to bios immaturity and the auto options being far from perfect. This is bottlenecking my machine terribly.

 

As I said, I have tried to read up as best I can on what settings I should use, but hands up here - I'm not an OC jockey... I might push the FSB a little, but thats where I stop really so I'm NOT REALLY USED to changing the intricities of the bios, and I would appreciate any help available.

 

For the record, I have tried lots of things (reducing the HTT multiplier seemed to help speed things up slightly) but I'm at the point now where I've saturated my brain with ideas to find that "magic combination".

 

Thanks in advance to any helpers, I'm sure there are a few of you here with Mushkin Redline PC4000 sticks, perhaps you'd share your findings.

 

I have done a forum search, and nothing jumps out at me.

 

Edit: I should add that the memory is 2x1Gb Dual Channel

 

Kind regards,

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Hi there,

 

Thanks for that, although I think those are for 2x512mb?

 

I beleive mine are with the 3-3-2-8 timings, and when I put your settings in, the lot froze!

 

2Gb XP4000 Mushkin Redline Dual Channel kit - very few references to it on the net.

 

Did I buy the wrong stuff?

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Risto's is 2x512 high-voltage stuff, probably not gonna work too well on the newer Redlines. :)

 

Didn't necesarily buy the wrong stuff, 2GB is still superior to 1GB by far, but its not as good for benchmarking if thats what you're interested in. I don't know how that stuff'll perform, but it should do better than mine in terms of overclocking, maybe 275+.

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Hi everyone,

 

This is my first post to your forum, although I've been reading it for a while. There are a lot of quality posters on here!

 

I have recently put together a system (see sig), and I've managed to circumvent most of the problems using knowledge shared on this forum. Thanks for that.

 

I'm not a big overclocker, my main use for this machine is running PMDG 747-400 sim, in virtual cockpit, with headtracker.

 

I know that the BIOS is far from perfect, but I have december's release flashed in. I eagerly await the next!!

 

My main concern is the performance of my RAM. I have researched what my settings should be, but to be honest, whenever I change something from AUTO, I end up having to reset the CMOS!!

 

 

 

 

Sisoft Sandra is reporting a memory benchmark of around 3500Mb (net reports it should be upwards of 6000Mb), which is rubbish for £250 worth of RAM. I'm sure its bios settings, due to bios immaturity and the auto options being far from perfect. This is bottlenecking my machine terribly.

 

As I said, I have tried to read up as best I can on what settings I should use, but hands up here - I'm not an OC jockey... I might push the FSB a little, but thats where I stop really so I'm NOT REALLY USED to changing the intricities of the bios, and I would appreciate any help available.

 

For the record, I have tried lots of things (reducing the HTT multiplier seemed to help speed things up slightly) but I'm at the point now where I've saturated my brain with ideas to find that "magic combination".

 

Thanks in advance to any helpers, I'm sure there are a few of you here with Mushkin Redline PC4000 sticks, perhaps you'd share your findings.

 

I have done a forum search, and nothing jumps out at me.

 

Edit: I should add that the memory is 2x1Gb Dual Channel

 

Kind regards,

 

You will need to select the 2nd 2064 in the T-ref ,you will see big improvments garanteed !!!!

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Hi, I have chged the T-ref, as advised, and the score has risen to 5500ish. Thats a result, and I'm happier thanks.

 

I have tried to push the RAM, following the A64 overclocking guide, but I dont get past 240 on the HTT really... but its probably something I'm doing/not doing... it might be best to wait for a better bios version to eliminate troubleshooting some of the stuff that keeps getting in the way.

 

It often hangs after POST, in the IRQ screen when I ask too much of it. Shame.

 

Cheers

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Take this for illustration purposes and put the timings up that "you" are using so we can see what is set to what. And put your power supply in sig.

 

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

 

FSB Bus Frequency............................. - 200

HT PLL High Speed............................. - Auto

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - Auto

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - Auto

 

CPU VID StartUp Value......................... - 1.500v

 

NB-SB Port Configuration...................... - Enhanced

 

CPU VID Control............................... - Auto

CPU VID Special Control....................... - Auto

DRAM Voltage Control.......................... - 2.75v

SB PCIE Voltage............................... - 1.8v

NB Analog Voltage............................. - 1.3v

LDT Bus Voltage............................... - 1.3v

NB Core Voltage............................... - 1.3v

 

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 200=RAM/FSB:01/01

Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 2.0

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 05 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 24 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3120 Cycles

DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto

DQS Skew Value................................ - 0

DRAM Drive Strength........................... - AUTO

DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - AUTO

Max Async Latency............................. - 8.0 ns

Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.0 ns

IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter............................... - Disable

R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 16 x

Bypass Max.................................... - 7 x

32 Byte Granularity........................... - Disable (8 Bursts)

 

RGone...

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Hello Rgone, thanks very much for your reply. I have modified the signature, and below are my CURRENT Genie settings. They are yielding about 6500Mb on the mem benchmark at this time, and the system is stable under prime and memtest.

 

The memory divider doesnt seem to be "dividing" as such. Memtestsisfoft reports ddr480, although I have altered the ratio to 233, to push the ram further. (250 wont boot).

 

Thanks again!

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

 

FSB Bus Frequency............................. - 240

HT PLL High Speed............................. - Disabled

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - X4

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - X11

 

CPU VID StartUp Value......................... - Startup

 

NB-SB Port Configuration...................... - Enhanced

 

CPU VID Control............................... - 1.475v

CPU VID Special Control....................... - Auto

DRAM Voltage Control.......................... - 2.8v

SB PCIE Voltage............................... - 1.8v

NB Analog Voltage............................. - 1.3v

LDT Bus Voltage............................... - 1.3v

NB Core Voltage............................... - 1.3v

 

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 233=RAM/FSB:01/01

Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 3.0

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 08 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 24 Bus Clocks

Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3684 Cycles

DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto

DQS Skew Value................................ - 0

DRAM Drive Strength........................... - Level 6

DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - Level 1

Max Async Latency............................. - 8.0 ns

Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.5 ns

IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter............................... - Enable

R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 16 x

Bypass Max.................................... - 7 x

32 Byte Granularity........................... - Auto

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Thank you, that helped slightly too. If you can see any other little gems I've missed, do point them out!

 

Genie BIOS Settings:

 

FSB Bus Frequency............................. - 240

HT PLL High Speed............................. - Disabled

LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - X4

CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... - X11

 

CPU VID StartUp Value......................... - Startup

 

NB-SB Port Configuration...................... - Enhanced

 

CPU VID Control............................... - 1.475v

CPU VID Special Control....................... - Auto

DRAM Voltage Control.......................... - 2.8v

SB PCIE Voltage............................... - 1.8v

NB Analog Voltage............................. - 1.3v

LDT Bus Voltage............................... - 1.3v

NB Core Voltage............................... - 1.3v

 

 

DRAM Configuration Settings:

 

DRAM Frequency Set............................ - 233=RAM/FSB:01/01

Command Per Clock (CPC)....................... - Enable

CAS Latency Control (Tcl)..................... - 3.0

RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... - 08 Bus Clocks

Row precharge time (Trp)...................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... - 12 Bus Clocks

Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... - 18 Bus Clocks (thanks to learners permit)

Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Write recovery time (Twr)..................... - 03 Bus Clocks

Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... - 02 Bus Clocks

Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... - 04 Bus Clocks

Refresh Period (Tref)......................... - 3684 Cycles

DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... - Enabled

 

DQS Skew Control.............................. - Auto

DQS Skew Value................................ - 0

DRAM Drive Strength........................... - Level 6

DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... - Level 1

Max Async Latency............................. - 8.0 ns

Read Preamble Time............................ - 6.5 ns

IdleCycle Limit............................... - 256 Cycles

Dynamic Counter............................... - Enable

R/W Queue Bypass.............................. - 16 x

Bypass Max.................................... - 7 x

32 Byte Granularity........................... - Auto

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