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Any good reason for not using w2k ??

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I have been using w2k in my old computer for many years without a sole problem, but I have just upgraded to my sig system and when i tell people I use w2k everyone says w2k is really outdated for such a modern system...

 

All the computer aficionados I know say I will get better performance/reliability/benchmarks with XP, but all I care is about stability/performance/noise/temps...and w2k is solid and simplistic

 

I have installed few games, drivers and the system is rock solid at stock or overclocked speeds.... so I see no reason for moving "up" o XP :confused: ...

 

Are there any good reasons other that the GUI for moving to XP from a bulletproof w2k system?

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I can't see why not use w2k... As I see this, Windows 2000 is lighter / less bloaty in a way. Only thing is that it looks "uglier" than XP, which also is taste issue...

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So far I have'nt seen a single serious reason not to use Win2K.

 

One small issue did rose a while ago and I had to install XP to another partition (with disasterous results) to use my racing wheel and pedals. Funny thing is that MS hardware don't always get along with MS OS...

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I allways ran 2k3, I hate xp.

 

That or 2kpro.

But now, I'm running 2k adv server again.

After more modding, andfully updated to sp4, sr2.0(plus the adv serer sr2.0), it's just better then any other os out there.

Faster in all ways.

 

It misses a few things though which sorta sucks.

I plan on installing 2k3 again to the side and extracting what I need from that to add to this 2k server.

Like the image preview tool(xp style), and some codecs.

 

 

2k pro is pretty good too.

However, it's not that great when you got more then 256m of ram.

It's still cool and all, but a newer os does better.

But like I said, if you got adv server 2k, it blows them all away if you mod it after install(that's all that's needed to do so).

 

 

As for it being ugly?

I don't like that theme stuff at all.

It seems like it works better since sp2, but still, to late to convince me now ^^.

They should of had it working right in the gold release and sp1 ^^ of xp pro.

 

 

I did'nt mention that 2k adv server has the best multitasking of all windows.

Even over 2k3 ent server.

It's quite amazing what this os can do when it comes to that.

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No mekanoplastik, I really see no reason for why you should downgrade from Windows 2000 to XP

 

There is no performance difference whatsoever, if anything XP is slower with all it's extra services and ugly graphics... I.e. it is more bloated and uses up more RAM

 

The only issue I know of is that SLI will not work in 2000, quite a big issue for those with SLI of course, but I myself do not run SLI and do not plan to so;

 

Windows 2000 Forevva!!!

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well, it seems i can relax and keep using w2k until i get vista :P

 

 

I allways ran 2k3, I hate xp.

 

2k pro is pretty good too.

However, it's not that great when you got more then 256m of ram.

It's still cool and all, but a newer os does better.

But like I said, if you got adv server 2k, it blows them all away if you mod it after install(that's all that's needed to do so).

 

Interesting..thanks....but could you explain the 256mb ram "issue" a litte more, also what kind of mods do you do for your adv. server systems??

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Another issue I forgot.

Certain cab files are'nt supported in 2k, any ver.

Like a good example of this is some of the newer forceware drivers won't install because of it.

Or the feb redist of directx.

One of those files needs updating...

 

Another issue is that you can't end certain tasks without getting the access denide.

 

Not huge deals, could be fixed, the task thing I dn.

 

 

Reg tweaks, and I del 2 files, I used to del tftp as well.

I del batmeter.dll and webcheck.dll.

 

I also have a generic tweak file, as well as a few seperate ones.

Then a ton of service removal reg files.

I made all of them by hand, I think I'm over a 1000 files of tweaks so far, not just one os I think though.

 

 

The 256m thing.

2kpro, after mods it's faster then my 2k3 after mods with this amount of memory.

Faster, in benchs and gaming.

 

2k3, and probably xp as well.

Faster then 2kpro with 512m of memory, after mods.

 

Same for both after memory pool setup as well(Which I need to work on again to double check I got them right again..., the pool setup).

So it's not just auto for the page and non paged pools for the diffrent os'es that make the diffrence in speeds with those amounts of memory.

 

 

2k adv server is like a totally diffrent os though.

Multitasking, totally nuts in this os(good).

 

Del'ing batmeter.dll does'nt kill the networking monitor thingy in the taskbar.

Still kills the soundvol taskbar thign though.

No other os has this that way ^^(never tried it on xp though).

Win2k3 and 2kpro is'nt that way.

 

 

 

Some stuff I checked out long long ago:

 

Default setups, 1st boot diffrences.

2k adv server, slowest.

2kpro, fast.

xp pro, slower then 2kpro.

2k3, fastest.

 

This was xp pro, vlm sp1, not 1a.

2kpro sp4, vlm, not sr.

2k adv server, dev, sp4, not sr.

2k3, vlm, non sp,

 

With adv server(all rev's) you got options to pick during install, like you did with 2kpro sp3 and below.

This greatly decides the memory bandwith from then on.

 

Removing a service, wihtout tieing ends, can lower bandwith(which really sucks if you ask me).

Still gotta doit anyways...

 

Installing directx allways lowers memory bandwith.

However it has greatly inproved since dx9b :).

The os ver's with dx9c(Or latest) intergrated have a huge advantage over the ones needing upgrades.

 

 

Other things I've noticed.

2k, any ver, say this is the basis for d3d and ogl speed.

XP is faster in d3d.

2k3 is even faster, slightly, and so is ogl.

 

 

I took the time, re-installing over and over watching everythign very carefully in order to find these diffrences.

 

After alot of mods.

Everythign is just cool anyways.

You gotta pick your os depening on how it acts though.

 

With win2k3, you got that enhanced networking, and d3d+ogl.

With 2k adv server you get super enhanced multitasking(which I just recently noticed).

 

Xp is well, I dn.

It's pretty good for the avg user.

Has decent upgrades to d3d...

 

 

I have not rechecked the d3d and ogl thing these days.

I would need another video card to do so.

This quadro of mine is only clocked at 200mhz ddr since I messed it up long ago.

So it I really could'nt use it to compare raw speeds of ogl and d3d.

 

 

I've had people say I'm full of it, about these comparisons though.

So take it as a grain of salt.

 

Just pick the os you really like ;).

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I also favor windows 2k but there are some programs that only work with xp so they wont run on 2000. And in the future, soon, there will probably be many more programs that won't work.

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well, it seems i can relax and keep using w2k until i get vista :P

 

Predicton:

The first 2 months of vistas release will be filled with BSODs and System wide crashes.

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Predicton:

The first 2 months of vistas release will be filled with BSODs and System wide crashes.

 

You could be correct. ;)

 

I myself see no reason to get it and it's DRM crud in the first place.

 

Sorry Bill no sale here.

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ZOldDude, I like you sig, the lag hehe.

 

 

Another issue I found with 2k based os'es.

Using the search function, if you cacnle it, or close it out, it still searches :.

It'll eventually quit though.

Wierd, and crappy on that one.

I got it to cancle straight up once.

 

 

Another issue I was aware of but forgot to mention.

No thumbnails for videos.

I'm sure this could be modded in.

 

 

I have no idea what you guys mean by not supporting 2k...

I've never ran across any program that did'nt support 2k.

There's stuff in 2k3 that is only supported in 2k3, it's not supported in xp either so...

Like hot swapping memory.

 

2k3 has alot of those programs that won't run, but they doit on purpose because whoever made the program sucks ^^.

Most of the time you can get around such a prob one way or another.

Some websites are this way too.

But you only need to spoof the agent header on that one.

 

 

 

As for vista, which is the most crappy name, more then me...

The new dirctshow or whatever it may be called...

 

As for the rest of it, like drivers compiled from .net(lmfao..., stupid), screw that.

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