durkadave Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 This is a plea for help. In short, my machine will not post when all four sticks of OCZ Platinum Edition 1024MB 3200 memory (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) are inserted. With power, it beeps of memory errors -- of course, no display. All sticks have been tested individually under memtest without any problems. I can run a pair together in dual mode with no problems. I cannot get all four to run simultaniously. Some quick notes: This was a machine running a single gig spread between two TwinX sticks. It was overclocked. Since that time, I've upgraded the bios to the 11/14/05 version, cleared the CMOS both the jumper, battery removal, and sitting without any power. I'm really not certian what course to take at this point. Thanks for your help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
red930 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Best thing to do would be use one stick, get into the bios, set optimized defaults and manually put in your timings, set to 2T (CPC disable), and vdimm. Then you should be able to use all 4. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myrtleee34 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 just so you know, your machine will run slower with 4BG than what it does with 2GB. I tried this setup, and ran benchmark tests. I scored much higher with 2GB than with 4GB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapjackman176 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 too much gigabytes.. you have to cough up 2 sticks.. and it just so happens that you can give them to me! :nod: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brinox Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 is there any way to run on 3 sticks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkadave Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Wow. Many thanks for the quick response! Unfortunately, the problem persists. Trying the advice of the optimized settings and using the 2-3-2-5 timings of the chip for the other properties, with CPC Disabled, the machine still would not post. I've also utilized the detailed timings from OCZ: FSB Bus Frequency............................. 200 LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... Auto CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... Auto PCI eXpress Frequency......................... 100 CPU Voltage .................................. Auto LDT Voltage .................................. 1.20 ChipSet (NF4) Voltage ........................ 1.50 DRAM Voltage ................................. 2.60v +0.03 if not 3.2V ............................ enable Memclock (DRAM Frequency) .................... 200 1T/2T Timing (Command Per Clock).............. 1T CAS Latency (Tcl)............................. 2T RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... 3T Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... 8T Row precharge time (Trp)...................... 2T Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... 10T Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... 16T Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... 3T Write recovery time (Twr)..................... 3T Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... 2T Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... 3T Refresh Period (Tref)......................... 3120 DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... Enabled DQS Skew Control.............................. Auto DQS Skew Value................................ 0 DRAM Drive Strength........................... Normal 3 DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... Level 1 Max Async Latency............................. 8ns DRAM Response Time............................ Normal Read Preamble Time............................ 6ns IdleCycle Limit............................... 256 Dynamic Counter............................... Disable R/W Queue Bypass.............................. 16x Bypass Max.................................... 4x 32 Byte Granularity........................... Disable (4 Bursts) And again, BIOS beeps of memory errors, only a single LED goes out -- and the computer is in limbo until I remove one set of sticks. I would have expected to be able to enter the bios with a screwed up memory configuartion, but just have and inoperable machine as soon as it tried to execute some code. Any other ideas? Again, many thanks for the help! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkadave Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 And regarding the system speed -- yes, I know the base machine would be slower with the 4gigs than with 2, but this is not a gaming machine and the memory is required for the application it will run. A loss of some performance is a gain when you don't have to swap constantly Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinvented Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 Maybe you're not listening very carefully as to what needs to be done. First, I want you to clear your cmos. A simple move of the jumper with no power to the system (ie, turned off at the power supply). Make sure it's discharged to prevent any shorts. Clear it for about 15 seconds, and I want you to ONLY use 1 stick of memory in the top orange slot, furthest from the CPU. When you boot up, go into bios and set THESE exact settings. FSB Bus Frequency............................. 200 LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... Auto CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio....................... Auto PCI eXpress Frequency......................... 100 CPU Voltage .................................. Auto LDT Voltage .................................. 1.20 ChipSet (NF4) Voltage ........................ 1.50 DRAM Voltage ................................. 2.80v +0.03 if not 3.2V ............................ Disable Memclock (DRAM Frequency) .................... Auto 1T/2T Timing (Command Per Clock).............. 2T (Disable) CAS Latency (Tcl)............................. 2.5T RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd)..................... 4T Min RAS# active time (Tras)................... 8T Row precharge time (Trp)...................... 3T Row Cycle time (Trc).......................... 8T Row refresh cyc time (Trfc)................... 16T Row to Row delay (Trrd)....................... 3T Write recovery time (Twr)..................... 3T Write to Read delay (Twtr).................... 2T Read to Write delay (Trwt).................... 3T Refresh Period (Tref)......................... 3120 DRAM Bank Interleave.......................... Enabled DQS Skew Control.............................. Auto DQS Skew Value................................ 0 DRAM Drive Strength........................... Auto DRAM Data Drive Strength...................... Auto Max Async Latency............................. Auto DRAM Response Time............................ Normal Read Preamble Time............................ Auto IdleCycle Limit............................... 256 Dynamic Counter............................... Disable R/W Queue Bypass.............................. 16x Bypass Max.................................... 4x 32 Byte Granularity........................... Disable (4 Bursts) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkadave Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 I've actually followed the instructions as presented. When requested to put in only one stick, I threw it in slot one, not slot three. I cleared the CMOS. I entered in timings of 2-3-2-5, with CPC Disabled. That did not work. I went through the same process, using the detailed timings from the OCZ site -- again, CMOS cleared, one stick in slot one. Used the OCZ timings as copied above, but with CPC disabled. No worky upon populating all four slots. Attempted the latest advice. Cleared CMOS, put in a stick in slot three. Entered the exact timings as presented. Upon populating the other three rows, the machine would not post. Tried the latest advice again, but with an extended power drain for CMOS clearing. Again, no worky. :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkadave Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Any more ideas? I have two LAN Party NF4 boards -- with different processor models. Same behavior in each. I also have a Dell Poweredge in the basement; its not the easiest machine to get to, but, of course, all four sticks were recognized and came up in dual channel mode without any problems. Thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kawasaki 1 Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Hi, try placing two sticks in the orange slots and booting up. If that does not work, try them in the yellow slots if you have not already. I tried the 1 stick in each bank and never could get it working. I placed the other stick in (memory is matched pairs) and the system booted up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durkadave Posted February 12, 2006 Posted February 12, 2006 Thanks, But as stated, I have no problems any pair of the sticks loading simultaniously (only in orange -- no go in yellow). This is using the latest BIOS update, with the same behavior on two machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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