Jump to content

Question - Stuttering


NeilSouth

Recommended Posts

Can a Monitor problem cause stuttering? , cant believe i still get stuttering

after all this time

 

I cured it with battlefield 2, but i have to have vsync enabled + directx tweaker triple buffering and NO frame rate drops below 60 any drop to say 58 and it stutters. Stragety games are the worst offender with scrolling across a map left or right keys or mouse!

 

Though i got Suffering ties that bind us today from game and it was awful its just unplayable with this amount of stuttering, any motion forward or side to side stutter stutter. This problem started when i put the nvidia graphics card in my old system in this house , but since then the whole system is new and yes i have 2gb ram and yes ive tested another graphics card. Im thinking its my monitor though because i notice tearing on website flash's or movies, and when it stutters it tears.

 

Im at a loss

 

I wanted to do a fraps movie, but i cant afford paying it atm and just to do a movie

 

--

 

Another thing i noticed, in my voltage display CPU-Z it goes 1.548,1.562,1.534,1.576 changing every second! i have tried 3 different psu's from the lowest to this high rated hyper Type R no difference... could it be house power sockets?.

 

--

 

Tried

 

Different Ide cables

Different hard drive

Different graphics card

Different Psu

Sound card in, sound card out

Different ram corsair - Ballistix

MANY MANY different bios settings

Happened on two seperate motherboards

 

Swap file all setup correctly, and changed to different settings

to test it out, made no difference.

 

Tried underclocking graphics / Cpu ... overclocking graphics / cpu

Made no difference

 

Tried tight ram timings, loose ram timings

Made no difference

 

Tried 25 different nvidia drivers

 

Tried Different system drivers

 

Mouse acceleration & polling rates changed

nothing changed, even tried a ps2 mouse

 

--------

 

Also if i burn a DIVX/XVID to a CDR for the dvdplayer

it stutters !

 

--

 

In transport Tycoon, OpenTTD..... If i use the Arrow keys pressed down either left or right

to make it scroll it goes

 

jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk jerk

 

Help me please, i nearly went into debt trying to fix this problem

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a socket a platform correct, not an at64?

Your sig says at64...

 

Stuttering.

Disabling vsync, there is no tripple buffering for d3d..., just ogl.

Though you can enable tripple buffer by app.

Can you post a link to that tweaker you use though?, so I can double check, if they got a working tripple buffer tweak for d3d, I'd like to see it.

 

Downclocking, or overvolting the agp bus could help, or perhaps upp'ing the agp bus.

Cooling the south bridge may help.

 

Trying diff sound drivers may help.

 

Are your hardrives reading or whatever at all during these stutters?

Perhaps it's a latency issue if that's happening, something I don't expect you to fix.

 

You have tons of ram, is the swapfile setup the same for min and max?

 

 

Stuttering usually means:

Hot south bridge, hot video card.

Agp bridge clocked to low, agp bridge not getting enough voltage.

Bad drivers, bad windows setup.

Video card clocked to low, or perhaps the rig in general is clocked to low.

Latency issues, agp, pci, sound or ide.

 

Bad ide drivers come to mind, are you using the sw ide drivers?

They add latency..., but are good for burst speeds or for forcing a udma speed.

 

VCore flucation...

Mine fluctuates up to .1.

Say 1.55, goes from 1.52 to 1.60 I think.

Socket a remember...

 

I have an ocz powerstream 600w, and it fluctuates more then the old enermax 350w I had on certain things.

But then again this is just bios readings, I don't have a dmm nor do I care right now, it's doing allright for the time being :).

 

 

Edit:

 

You said:

Also if i burn a DIVX/XVID to a CDR for the dvdplayer

it stutters !

 

I have the same issue, only happened after I swapped psu's.

After a while this broke in, some things are faster, while for now, mpeg2 playback is slower.

Certiain playback of diff video are also affected when accessing the hd alot in the background.

 

I've broke in most issues I've had with speed.

But this mpeg2 playback with daemontools and such is still an issue for me.

 

 

I don't get stuttering though.

Just a sync offset that usually goes away after a while during playback.

I don't have vsync enabled though and I have custom drivers and the like.

 

 

Another edit:

 

You said:

Can a Monitor problem cause stuttering? , cant believe i still get stuttering

after all this time

 

Yes it can.

to low of a refresh rate and screw over playback of certain types of video, especially capturing.

I reccomend at least 75hz, 60hz will not do, it'll stutter, even hitch(meaning it stops completely for a period of time, a few secs).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is a socket a platform correct, not an at64?

Your sig says at64...

 

Stuttering.

Disabling vsync, there is no tripple buffering for d3d..., just ogl.

Though you can enable tripple buffer by app.

Can you post a link to that tweaker you use though?, so I can double check, if they got a working tripple buffer tweak for d3d, I'd like to see it.

 

Downclocking, or overvolting the agp bus could help, or perhaps upp'ing the agp bus.

Cooling the south bridge may help.

 

Trying diff sound drivers may help.

 

Are your hardrives reading or whatever at all during these stutters?

Perhaps it's a latency issue if that's happening, something I don't expect you to fix.

 

You have tons of ram, is the swapfile setup the same for min and max?

 

 

Stuttering usually means:

Hot south bridge, hot video card.

Agp bridge clocked to low, agp bridge not getting enough voltage.

Bad drivers, bad windows setup.

Video card clocked to low, or perhaps the rig in general is clocked to low.

Latency issues, agp, pci, sound or ide.

 

Bad ide drivers come to mind, are you using the sw ide drivers?

They add latency..., but are good for burst speeds or for forcing a udma speed.

 

VCore flucation...

Mine fluctuates up to .1.

Say 1.55, goes from 1.52 to 1.60 I think.

Socket a remember...

 

I have an ocz powerstream 600w, and it fluctuates more then the old enermax 350w I had on certain things.

But then again this is just bios readings, I don't have a dmm nor do I care right now, it's doing allright for the time being :).

 

 

Edit:

 

You said:

Also if i burn a DIVX/XVID to a CDR for the dvdplayer

it stutters !

 

I have the same issue, only happened after I swapped psu's.

After a while this broke in, some things are faster, while for now, mpeg2 playback is slower.

Certiain playback of diff video are also affected when accessing the hd alot in the background.

 

I've broke in most issues I've had with speed.

But this mpeg2 playback with daemontools and such is still an issue for me.

 

 

I don't get stuttering though.

Just a sync offset that usually goes away after a while during playback.

I don't have vsync enabled though and I have custom drivers and the like.

 

 

Another edit:

 

You said:

Can a Monitor problem cause stuttering? , cant believe i still get stuttering

after all this time

 

Yes it can.

to low of a refresh rate and screw over playback of certain types of video, especially capturing.

I reccomend at least 75hz, 60hz will not do, it'll stutter, even hitch(meaning it stops completely for a period of time, a few secs).

 

 

Wasnt sure where to post this... i used to have an nforce 2, that stuttered also

with new ATI drivers i had to use old ati drivers to stop it stuttering, but with this

system its a different ball game nothing thus far is helping!. Ive done EVERYTHING

you suggested already in the past. I already know about the Vsnyc opengl blah blah lingo , as i beta test for directxtweaker had to research into it all

http://www.nonatainment.de/web/default.aspx <- currently on an old version the latest beta supports many new things and works with punkbuster. But alas that only helps the problem with battlefield 2... Nothing else

 

The ABIT AV8, i believe is a KT800 board I think! its the latest VIA chipset

that supports amd 64 939 cpus.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you set your Graphics Aperture equal to, or 2x the amount of RAM on your 6800GT?

 

With the nVidia drivers for your 6800GT, have you made sure you have set the refresh

rate(s) to override the base 60Hz rate, and for all the resolutions you're running games

and other apps at?

 

Within each app/game you'd be running, have you configured each to use higher than

60Hz for a refresh rate, and as NEO mentioned?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ok guys this didnt happen last night, but ill go more into it now

i just set forced 75HZ now openttd when side scrolling instead of

stuttering was more juddering ie it wasnt as noticable yet at 60hz

it was VERY apparant!

 

So why is it stuttering at 60HZ side scrolling but less so at 75hz?

 

Samsung TFT monitor , the problem is i can select 85HZ but the tft

monitor comes up with a Auto Message saying this display mode is

not supported and if i close the box it works ok for 10mins then

the monitor automaticly shuts itself off. Because i cant keep fps shooters

most of them at 75hz ie 75fps, because the frame rates drop to say 60

i get ALOT of hitching with Triple buffering forced through dxtweaker

but at 60hz - 60fps because it doesnt drop below that i get no hitching.

With TB off i get big laggy frame rate drops to 40fps such is the way

with that low hz vsyncd..

 

Im royaly screwed in the arse with this :|

 

 

Also at 75HZ it doesnt feel as quick in scrolling in my rts games

or openTTD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1. Have you installed the drivers for the monitor. Please don't get this confused with the drivers for the video card - they are different entities.

 

2. The maximum refresh for your monitor may be 85Hz, but possibly not at the resolution you are attempting to run. Check your manual for the specifications.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You may also try setting this lcd panel to its naitive resolution to see if that helps.

 

 

Samsung 913N / 915N in the US

Diagonal measurement 19 inches

Native resolution 1280x1024

Contrast 800:1

Brightness 300 cd/m²

Latency 8ms

Colors 16.2 M

H/V viewing angles 160/160

Loudspeakers none

Connectivity VGA

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There's special timings in the nv display cpl for such things too.

I'ts been along long time, but I met someone once that needed to use those things, there was a few apps that would'nt run correctly without chnaging the montior timings formula thingy, whatever it was called.

 

Err, damn, there goes my color and sharpness boosts...

Display mode timing ;).

Try diffrent ones in here too.

Defently set the lcd up to it's native res.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...