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the guy is still guilty of statutory rape.

Is he really though?

 

I just looked up the consent age in NY and it is 17.

 

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These measures are in place for a reason. Technically he is a . offender. If it keeps my friends safe I don't care what he deserves. Who am I to judge? I'm not, I'll leave that up to the court. By calling the cops I'd just be bringing something to light.

 

I think you need to talk to her before you do anything. She has the capability to make decisions for herself, your jealousy shouldnt be making up your mind for you. If you really want to be a friend talk to her and respect what she has to say.

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He's not a . offender for having consensual . with a minor...guilty of statutory rape at best...but he won't be labeled as a . offender. Odds are you call the cops and he gets probation for statutory rape, does some community service, and the rest is history.

 

We all do stupid things when we're young and you obviously feel for the girl's well-being, but I wouldn't get involved if I were you. It will probably make things messier and might put you in a position you never wanted to be in...just me two cents :)

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I see what you are both saying, but it is in my opinion that she is being manipulated. I'm no counselor but I have a lot of common sense when it comes to things like this.

 

lets start with the basics...how old are you?

 

are you old enough, experienced enough, wise enough to even think you know what makes people tick?

 

I seriously doubt it. I'm old and considered wise and I even am still surprised by what makes people tick.

 

First off, they're not in a relationship. They're not going out or anything like that. From what I've seen, it's not a consentual relationship so much as a perceived dependence on her part.

 

then it is still considered consensual, regardless of what you personally believe. If she's dependent, then that is just how it is. Being dependent is not even close to being raped or having . against her will, and there's nothing you can say that will change it.

 

My worry is that she's displaying addictive behaviour. As I said, if it was her choice it would be different, but from what I've seen this is not the case, which is what's worrying me. Perhaps ". addict" is the wrong word, but I was addicted to porn once and talking to her I'm getting the exact same impression from her. It's not a ten-times-a-day type of addiction, but more like a have ., regret it, and a week later become overwhelmed with an uncontrollable urge to do it again.

 

who are you to judge what a person's behavior should be? Especially if it is based on your beliefs? Who is to say your belief system is a one-size-fits-all for everyone?

 

as for addiction to porn, I think all guys get that and 99% of us get out of it when we actually start having real relationships with real women lol.

 

keep in mind that women and men are not even close to being the same. We have different value systems.

 

lots of women and men have . then regret it, and lots of those keep engaging in it repeatedly for various reasons, all valid in their minds while they are doing it.

 

the sooner you learn that you are you and everyone else is different than you, the quicker you will get over this need to control a situation that really has zero to do with you other than your emotional attachment.

 

Third, she wasn't talked into it. In fact, according to her, it was "mostly non-verbal communication". But she only went over there to make out. One thing led to another and it probably just happened before she knew it.

 

again, consensual .. you really cannot argue this at all, and in trying to do so anymore just means you are being narrow-minded and now allowing for others to make choices that you would not make. this is life. get used to people not doing what you would do.

 

Normally I'd agree with you and say that it was her own decision, except for the fact she has displayed much regret of this happening yet despite that, it continues to happen. For the many months I'd known her, remaining faithful to her future husband was very important to her.

 

everyone that reads this will agree. We all make decisions that we regret. 99% of those that read this will agree that they keep making stupid decisions repeatedly that they regret (loaning money to your dope-fiend brother when you know better? allowing your cheating spouse back in the house knowing she or he will just do it again?).

 

people's values change. Mine have changed many times. Many persons I grew up with that were not religious have become extremely religious (sometimes dangerously so). Many persons that were not even believers in god now go to church 3 times a week. Guys that used to bang every broad that would give them the opportunity are all of the sudden faithful to a fault. And then there's the opposite.

 

Values change. Your values will change as you grow up and experience life.

 

Again, this is life, and you can try to argue against it all you want, but come back in 10 years and tell me nothing in your belief system has changed...you simply cannot do it.

 

I don't want to run her life, that's the last thing an anarchist wants. But when someone is taking advantage of her I can't just sit by and let him. Like I said, it's not because of any deicision she made. I may not agree with that decision but I won't get in the way. I see this as being different, hence the crack example.

 

who are you to decide what is right for someone else that is capable of making decisions?

 

who are you to decide what is right and wrong for her?

 

it is only a foolish man who tries to change someone who isn't interested in the type of change YOU want for them. Refusing to accept this only makes one more foolish.

 

You seem to be unable to accept that she's just as responsible for this as he is. Until you can accept such a thing, you will always see it in the way you are seeing it, and that is not healthy for you, and it might end up being unhealthy for the both of them, which is worse, because you should have never poked your nose into it since there's nothing going on but bad decision making (decisions that YOU don't agree on).

 

On the other hand, I do agree with you that talking to her directly might be a prudent first move. And I also will say that you do have some good points, and that is why I asked. When it comes down to it, though, the guy is still guilty of statutory rape.

 

communication is always the key.

 

getting your nose into someone's business is not the key.

 

again, who are you to decide for her (or him) anything?

 

you are nobody, that is who.

 

you can't go around trying to right every wrong you see, especially when there are more valid wrongs to try and right (there's americans starving and in poverty, there are americans addicted to dope, stuck on welfare, sitting in prison unfairly, etc...many many much more important things that you can change).

 

 

 

here's my best piece of advice:

 

you cannot change someone's belief system to what you believe just because you believe it is how they should see the world.

 

this is why extremist religions are dangerous...they believe with every ounce of their soul that they are correct and anyone who doesn't believe is wrong.

 

abortion...gay marriage...religion...politics...relationships...these all fall into the same basic category of Core Beliefs.

 

Core Beliefs have to be changed by the individual who has them, not you, the Belief Sherriff who thinks his belief system is the correct one.

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Hahaha, jealousy? I'm not jealous at all. I don't like her that way, she's not my type. ;)

 

I do agree that I should tlak to her first though. And damnit, you're right tmod, it's 17.

 

 

 

Not that I don't appreciate the responses, but I'm sorry I asked, to be honest. :/

Your a friend that cares about another friend and the best you can do is offer support during these times for her no matter how much it hurts for you to do it.

 

Remove your feelings in this situation and just be there for her, She will come around in due time.

 

Wish you the best!!

 

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Let me rephrase, haha. I think you misunderstand. My problem is not with her having . but that she's being used. That's all.

 

so

 

again

 

who are you to make decisions for her, or to think that your belief system is superior to hers???

 

nobody, that is who you are.

 

if she is being used, she either knows it and accepts it, or she wants it that way, or she's immature and inexperienced and will have to learn from it.

 

you need to step back and let life happen to those involved, and I got to say honestly, you are not involved. She's your friend, so you do your part and be her friend, and talk to her, tell her how you feel, without doing a bunch of crap like telling her she's wrong, stupid, immature, etc.

 

Let her make her own decisions. Stop trying to live someone else's life like you would live your own.

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i also got to tell you i'm undeleting your posts and if you persist in trying to cover up this discussion that you initiated, I'll have no choice but to take you to task for such nonsense.

 

your age and level of maturity shows by taking your ball and going home because you didn't get the support you expected to get

 

this is something you will have to learn as you mature and grow into a man

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your age and level of maturity shows by taking your ball and going home because you didn't get the support you expected to get

 

This really is something I have to decide for myself on. I can't ask for advice because it's impossible to explain the situation in a way anyone could really understand. I'm not trying to cover anything up, and I'm not upset that I didn't get the support I was hoping for. I don't need anyone's support. The entire world could be against me and I would never care, because I know that I'm right for myself.

 

I did not come here looking for anyone's reassurance, but trying to explain the situation now that I've gotten myself into something I didn't bargain for is wearing on my nerves.

 

I appreciate the time everyone's put into their responses but your advice indicates to me that you don't understand my question. If you did you wouldn't be talking about "her decision this" and "her decision that" because that was never my concern. Despite me saying this has nothing to do with the question, it's all I end up receiving in replies, and that to me is like saying "you're a liar".

 

Regardless of this misunderstanding, the talking to her first advice was valid. It's just all the "well how old are you? How much do you really know about anything?" that I don't need. It's all the well-meaning people trying to tell me that the situation is something it's not that I don't need.

 

I deleted my posts as a knee-jerk reaction, when in reality I should've just posted this. Again, I appreciate everyone's time, and regardless of the misunderstanding I did learn something, but this whole thing turned into a mess that I'm really not in the mood for.

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1. http://www.angrygames.com/cats.htm

 

2. I have been "Angry_Games" for many years...I used to own Angry Games Entertainment when I was working in the gaming industry, had big plans to do big game (thanks to Tim Sweeney @ Epic Games who gave us the right direction we should go in), but it all fell apart like most dreams do (no regrets though, it's another lesson in life that was worth learning).

 

Then some lamer complained here at the forum "boo hoo he's angrygames and it makes me shiver in fear!!!" along with "omg he's soviet socialist hockey??? he's tooooo scary!!!! we'll never buy DFI ever again!!!"

 

so now I am happy_games and as of January 1st, I will just be "Travis" since it appears that even "Happy_Games" is too offensive to those that are too sensitive to get a life...

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I appreciate the time everyone's put into their responses but your advice indicates to me that you don't understand my question. If you did you wouldn't be talking about "her decision this" and "her decision that" because that was never my concern.

 

I think we understood the situation just fine as you described it. Keep in mind, most of us replying are in our 30's or older...and we have much more life experience than you. I can assure you that every one of us that has outgrown our 20's have experienced exactly what you have just described.

 

You aren't a unique snowflake in this my friend.

 

What you've done though is got your emotions tied up too much in it. This isn't bad or good, it just is. You'll learn (or you won't) what old people say all the time...."got to pick and choose your battles".

 

battling over something that is emotionally charged....rarely leads to anything but suffering (for everyone involved).

 

especially when you are basing it on your core beliefs.

 

Regardless of this misunderstanding, the talking to her first advice was valid. It's just all the "well how old are you? How much do you really know about anything?" that I don't need. It's all the well-meaning people trying to tell me that the situation is something it's not that I don't need.

 

no kid wants to hear this. When I was 16 I knew everything there was to know. You couldn't tell me differently without me thinking what an butthole idiot you were.

 

I was bulletproof, I was larger than life, I was this, I was that.

 

In reality (and it's something I didn't really realize until I was about 26), I was nothing but an immature kid still going through puberty allowing my emotions to get wound up like piano wire, thinking I was really mature and full of knowledge.

 

I got to tell you, and these guys will all tell you the same thing...come back in 10 years and tell us we were all wrong.

 

But I see if from your point of view...it ain't some crap you want to be hearing. That's fine.

 

But you need to understand...if you want an opinion, you had better be ready to accept it when it doesn't match yours.

 

I deleted my posts as a knee-jerk reaction, when in reality I should've just posted this. Again, I appreciate everyone's time, and regardless of the misunderstanding I did learn something, but this whole thing turned into a mess that I'm really not in the mood for.

 

see? You are growing already by understanding this.

 

but it isn't a 'mess'

 

a mess is you having to figure out how to explain to your parents and her parents that you both are only 17 and she's pregnant

 

that's a mess

 

this isn't a mess

 

this is discussion

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