Air or Water ?

[Dracula]

This may be true, however, there is no need to go with the copper and let me tell you why.

 

1. weighs a lot

2. cost more

3. Testing shows that the XP90C cools only about 2-3C better than the XP90

 

The best bang for the buck would be a XP90 with a panaflo fan. You can get that at svc.com

I'm not disagreeing with '

oliveryochest

' comments here because he is essentially correct about this. However, when you want to push you machine (CPU) as far as it can stably go, you will find that every little 1C degree of temperature can make all the difference when pushing your OverClock to the next level. Right now, because of ambient room temperatures, I have my CPU running at 3000MHz on 1.54 volts. At these settings, my rig hits about 48C degrees under load making it VERY difficult to get any OverClocks that are even slightly better. The rule of thumb is to keep your temps at or below 40C at idle and at or below 50C at load when you OverClock.

 

']

 

are u 100% sure? because i want to save money but keep my pc kool

what is better panaflo or vantec tornado? i think tornado is better cuz cfm and speed...idc bout noise. i want cold cpu plus it is cheeper than pAnAflO

I agree with you 'SkY[uK]', you should get the best one if you have decided to go the “air-cooling” route and I believe that the

Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) by Cooler Master

may be your best bet as it has gotten extremely good reviews for an ‘air-cooler’.

 

if your at the stage you want to mod your pc - go watercooling - its awesome - not only in terms of temperatures, but noise also - I hate the sound of jets firing up - lol! - even whilst gaming there is no raise in noise - unlike when one fires up a graphics card - just imagine how much noise there is in SLI......

 

tbh - DangerDen for teh win.........you won't look back...

I agree

!

 

']

 

what is THE best air cooler, what is second best?

Thermaltake’s XP-90C or the

Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) by Cooler Master

. Here are a couple of relevant threads I’ve posted in on this very topic:

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27677

 

AND

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27913

 

Here’s a snippet from one of those links:

 

 

Check the fan reviews at the end.

 

A64 HS Guide:

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23259

I read your link and it is awesome! But, the

XP-90C

, though it comes with clips you won't ever need, it does NOT use those clips for mounting on the LANPARTY nF4 boards. I own an

XP-90C

and it screws into the board just like any other LANPARTY approved HS. It is VERY solid and secure. It does weigh 690 grams, but our LANPARTY boards can easily handle that. The new and even MORE highly recommended

Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) by Cooler Master

weighs in at

795.3 grams (without FAN)

. Our LANPARTY boards will still handle even this kind of weight very easily. Here is a useful post I brought over from another thread:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

This is not a slam against

ThermalRight's XP-90C

, because that's what I'm using and it works fine. However, the

Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) by Cooler Master

has been more highly rated than the XP-90C. One source is

MAXIMUM

PC

magazine and there are MANY review links listed on how wonderful it is right at the Cooler Master website in the link I provided in the

blue colored

"Cooler Master" text above. Or, you can just use the list of review links below:

 

http://www.coolermaster.com/cm_files/scans...52_20050608.pdf

 

http://www.hardwarezone.com/microsite/ecgr/rig2_cooler.shtml

 

http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Coolermaster/Hyper6+/1.php

 

http://www.tweakup.dk/article/658/dk/

 

http://www.skynet-online.de/artikel/artikel.php?id=98&page=

 

http://www.mod-royal.com/modules.php?name=...howpage&pid=122

 

http://prohardver.hu/c.php?mod=20&id=642&p=1

 

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21875

Also, you should know your

metals

before

you buy any

HSF

. The

two

primary metals used in HS are

aluminum

and

copper

.

Aluminum

is cheaper, is half the weight and "

radiates

"

heat

better.

Copper

, on the other hand, "

conducts

"

heat

nearly

3

times

better than

aluminum

and has nearly

300

times

the tensile strength of

aluminum

. The

best

HSF

will have a

combination

of a pure

copper

base-pan and pipes, with all

aluminum

fins. This

Cooler Master

model is exactly

that

combination and contains

liquid

in its pipes for even better thermal conduction. A

100mm

fan comes with it and a second fan CAN be added. Click

HERE

to see even more photos of

this

HSF

! I Hope you’ve enjoyed my post.

So yes, I do favor the HSF by Cooler Master over Thermaltake’s XP-90C. Again, I hope this helped

.

[ReD.SkY]

thnx, i will get a hyper 6 , where can i get another 100mm fan?

[Dracula]

']

 

thnx, i will get a hyper 6 , where can i get another 100mm fan?

I just spoke with '

Kathy

' at

Cooler Master

(

909-673-9880

, extension 120), she said that currently if you want another 100mm fan to request one from them directly by inquiring at

[email protected]

.

Kathy

said that they cost about $7, plus another $5 for shipping. Here is the rest of their contact information:

 

U.S.A.

Cooler Master USA, Inc.

C.A. Office:

1951 S PARCO AV.UNIT A

ONTARIO,California 91761

Phone: 909-673-9880

Fax : 909-673-9882 or 9883

 

 

Email:

[email protected]

Product Review:

[email protected]

 

That’s all I've got for you. Hope this helps

.

[ReD.SkY]

wow, u went throught all that trouble, thanks alot, i am truly thankful

[Dracula]

']

 

wow, u went throught all that trouble, thanks alot, i am truly thankful

No trouble at all

.

 

Be sure to measure the width and dimensions of your case first to make certain that the HSF will fit properly though; I'd hate to see you buy all this stuff just to find out that it didn't fit correctly

.

 

 

 

Good luck with everything '

SkY

'; let us know how it all works out :nod: !

[ReD.SkY]

ive heard reviews from people that have the case (and fan) that im gonna get and they say it fits

[p0tter]

I like the Scythe Ninja w/ a 120mm fan

http://svc.com/scnj-1000.html

 

But the xp-90 is the under $30 no brainer

[shimon]

']Is this liquid cooler any good? Cooler Master Aquagate for $110

 

Every Cooler Master product I owned cracked, or leaked, or cracken and then leaked. They are beautifully made but of crappy materials.

And try to get any reply from the company.

 

For a $100 or so, I have had good suxxess with the KingWin unit.

It cools a CPU, VN 6600, and the NF4 rather well.

 

You might consider replacing the tubing with 8mm ones. I could show you

how to install them for a leak-proof setup.

 

Get a non-conductive coolant. Worth the peace of mind. Frozen CPU has

a non-toxic and a non-non-toxic (toxic in plain English :-) for 1/3 the price.

 

Make sure everything is ultra clean for the non-conductive liquids, and test the liquid for conductivity before use.

 

Main advantage of liquid cooling is: The cooling is done where you want it (outside the box, typically), and will normally be much quiter.

 

Also, you put 4oz device on your expensive CPU, not a pound and a half,

and the device leverage is one inc or less instead of 4-6 inches.

 

To the cooling Nuts: I am designing an insulation-less active cooling for UOC. Details may follow.

 

Simon

[ReD.SkY]

how is the asetek waterchill?

[StylesCD]

']what air cooler to get? xp-90c with tornado/fast fan?

 

btw, what did ur water cooling cost?

Ya, i found this 92fan that blow 110CFM, with 56.1DbA noise (lol airplane)

[ReD.SkY]

what about the asetek vapochill micro(extreme) ???

 

it is $50 it looks good

[Aldersix]

If going with the Asetek there is a install issue with the DFI nF4 motherboards, you might want to be aware of as posted at VapoChill here

 

The intro paragraph is below. They have a work around see link.

 

 

 

VapoChill Micro support announcement related to DFI motherboards

 

A problem related to the mounting procedure of the VapoChill Micro on DFI motherboards has been pointed out. All VapoChill Micro retention clips are made directly out from AMD/Intel design specifications, and even so there is a deviation between the VapoChill Micro retention clips and the plastic socket mechanism on DFI motherboards.