Guest Indred Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 when i reboot and check the temps in the bios they are like 27c max ??? EDIT: ok i got home and installed a few diff temp progs one of them MBM LMFAO check this out. http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j116/wildsrv/laugh.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
palehorse Posted March 26, 2006 Posted March 26, 2006 Hi,I've been following this thread for quite some time because my temps too do not report correctly. I usually just use smart guardian for my monitoring but today while priming I pulled up everest and sg and watched them both at the same time. I don't claim to understand how these programs work but did notice something, everest and ite reported the exact same temps but labled the sensors diffently. Temps at idle everest ite motherboard 34 C PWMIC 34 C cpu 39 C Chipset 39 C aux 24 C CPU 24 C At load (dual prime) everest ite motherboard 42 C PWMIC 42 C cpu 39-40 C Chipset 39-40 C aux 36-38 C CPU 36-38 C I noticed that when running prime the motherboard/pwmic jumped up fairly quick but was slow to cool off, the cpu/chipset temps stayed pretty much the same throughout, the aux/cpu temps jumped up quicker than the others and cooled off even quicker than they went up. I guess I thought that the readings I was getting on the motherboard/pwmic seemed to act like temps from a cpu and might warrant some of you who have much more knowledge than me on the subject to look into if you have time. If I am completely off base just let me know I'll delete or a mod can delete. Thanks, Eric Everest has a known bug that swaps the CPU and aux(chipset) temps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
applejuice Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 I have a low flow water setup (pump running at a lazy 5v with a very slow 800rpm fan bringing air into the radiator) and the CPU idles at about 18 degrees according to the Expert's New Math. Real ambient temperature in the room is about 22. I also want to rescind my previous post about the chipset temperature possibly being correct on the Expert. I don't think it is. Mine idles at about 38 on the Expert with the Evercool VC-RE. My brother's Ultra-D idles at around 51-52 with the stock fan, and goes up to 65(!!!) under load. When stock, mine would only hit about 52 under load in "Expert-degrees." Food for thought... or a superfluous continuation of a thread. Either way the temps are off by 10 degrees seemingly across the board and I hope DFI fixes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFREAK Posted March 27, 2006 Posted March 27, 2006 everest version 2.80.534 fixed the naming issues with the expert mb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical_53 Posted March 28, 2006 Posted March 28, 2006 ... but the never versions mix it up again, like build 550. Yesterday I took some time to measure CPU temps with different water temps. Ambient was 25°C, later 26°C. With fans @12V, my water temp stayed 5° above ambient. Idle, my readings for CPU (C&Q) are 5° below water temperature. Load, they go up to water temperature, ususally staying 1-2° below water. With fans @6V, my water stayes 7° above ambient. CPU reads 4 to 0° below water, usually staying at 1-2° below water. These temps are off at least 5°, more realistic would be somewhere between 5-10°. Also I'm not sure why my temps are jumping this much... it doesn't really make sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL0w Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 First off, since this is my very first post on DFI-Street (I've been lurking for the past month ), I'd like to give props to Angry, RGone and everybody else that posts here for providing an extremely handy place to obtain a vast amount of info about anything DFI related and more. It's much appreciated. On another note, I thought I'd post my temp readings. This is my first custom build so I'm not quite sure if they're wrong or right. Prime95 = 8.5 hours w/o any errors Room temp = 22c Idle: Load: Everything else is in my sig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
function8 Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 my expert with 12/7 bios seems to be accurate enough. i would imagine theres a temp sensor somewhere on the board itself? if so configuration of hardware could have an effect. anyway i'm surprised noone thats so worried about it hasnt just gooed a digital thermometer to the base of their heatsink with some as5 lol, or get one of these http://www.arizonatools.com/tools/temperat...tail/RAYST20XB/ ...jeesh..i really dont give to sheets in the wind if mine is off a few degrees. my rule of thumb is if u cant touch the heatsink coz its too hot....then its too hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
palehorse Posted March 30, 2006 Posted March 30, 2006 my expert with 12/7 bios seems to be accurate enough. i would imagine theres a temp sensor somewhere on the board itself? if so configuration of hardware could have an effect. anyway i'm surprised noone thats so worried about it hasnt just gooed a digital thermometer to the base of their heatsink with some as5 lol, or get one of thesehttp://www.arizonatools.com/tools/temperat...tail/RAYST20XB/ ...jeesh..i really dont give to sheets in the wind if mine is off a few degrees. my rule of thumb is if u cant touch the heatsink coz its too hot....then its too hot. alot of us need to be a bit more precise when we push our rigs to the 40% overclock and beyond... and since the entire point of the Expert board is to allow for better overclocks, it just seems rather silly that so many of their boards were built with faulty sensors! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
~zQ~ Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Man...my new build so far has gone as low as 21C idle so my temp sensors might whack as well. During idle however, the CPU fan at many times does not spin, so maybe it is pretty cool. I'm using the stock heatpipe fan. I wonder how I am going to OC now and check temps. Does anybody of suggestions on how to OC even with these faulty temp readings? Perhaps using external thermometers? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eL0w Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 Man...my new build so far has gone as low as 21C idle so my temp sensors might whack as well. During idle however, the CPU fan at many times does not spin, so maybe it is pretty cool. I'm using the stock heatpipe fan. I wonder how I am going to OC now and check temps. Does anybody of suggestions on how to OC even with these faulty temp readings? Perhaps using external thermometers? As mentioned earlier in this thread, the BIOS has a setting which turns the fan off once it reads <25c. You need to force it to stay on by setting the max temp before the fan gets turned on to >25c. Until you can get accurate readings, I'd advise against OC'ing. 21c is room temp if that tells you anything. You could however mount a probe on the side of the processor (also mentioned earlier in this thread.) It won't be a 100% accurate reading but it probably/might be closer than what your BIOS is reading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boz Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 zq: My temps were reading the same and my fan would turn off so in Smart Guardian i set it to turn on at like 17. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radical_53 Posted March 31, 2006 Posted March 31, 2006 I pulled myself out of this by setting a temperature offset in Speedfan 4.28. I set mine to 7°C, as then idle temps are just a bit over water temp, which seems so far "ok". Something I can live with at least Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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