Dracula Posted October 25, 2005 Here's what I plan on ordering:http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/ThermalRigh...0C-p-16133.html http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/shop/produc...54&cat=0&page=1 I'm not sure which fan to order out of the following: http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/Nexus-92mm-...-3-p-16284.html http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/Panaflo-92m...BX-p-16196.html If I get a Panaflo, should I get the low, med, or high output one? Do the Panaflo fans come with the appropriate adapters/wires required to have the motherboard adjust the speed of the fan or do I even need this? The Nexus one sounds like it comes with this, but I'm not sure. Is there anything else I need? This is not a slam against ThermalRight's XP-90C, because that's what I'm using and it works fine. However, the Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) by Cooler Master has been more highly rated than the XP-90C. One source is MAXIMUMPC magazine and there are MANY review links listed on how wonderful it is right at the Cooler Master website in the link I provided in the blue colored "Cooler Master" text above. Or, you can just use the list of review links below: http://www.coolermaster.com/cm_files/scans...52_20050608.pdf http://www.hardwarezone.com/microsite/ecgr/rig2_cooler.shtml http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Coolermaster/Hyper6+/1.php http://www.tweakup.dk/article/658/dk/ http://www.skynet-online.de/artikel/artikel.php?id=98&page= http://www.mod-royal.com/modules.php?name=...howpage&pid=122 http://prohardver.hu/c.php?mod=20&id=642&p=1 http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=21875 Also, you should know your metals before you buy any HSF. The two primary metals used in HS are aluminum and copper. Aluminum is cheaper, is half the weight and "radiates" heat better. Copper, on the other hand, "conducts" heat nearly 3 times better than aluminum and has nearly 300 times the tensile strength of aluminum. The best HSF will have a combination of a pure copper base-pan and pipes, with all aluminum fins. This Cooler Master model is exactly that combination and contains liquid in its pipes for even better thermal conduction. A 100mm fan comes with it and a second fan CAN be added. Click HERE to see even more photos of this HSF! I Hope you’ve enjoyed my post. Cheery Bye... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidhammock200 Posted October 25, 2005 Hyper 6+ (RR-UNH-P0U1) Weight 795.3g (without FAN) http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...U1+Hyper%206%2B Heavy Beast! With fans what 1Kg+? This is the 3rd time you have posted this! Do you sell these on commission? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Modulok Posted October 25, 2005 Heavy Beast! With fans what 1Kg+? This is the 3rd time you have posted this! Do you sell these on commission? lol, ya, he wants refferal money Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidhammock200 Posted October 25, 2005 lol, ya, he wants refferal money There are several of big, heavy HS's, that can shave 2C to 3C off the XP-90, but mounting them voids your CPU & mobo warranties & can damage CPU/mobo, also they are expensive & difficult to mount, if a max of 4C is that important then go water! Just MO, Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Modulok Posted October 25, 2005 but mounting them voids your CPU & mobo warranties & can damage CPU/mobo, also they are expensive & difficult to mount REALLY?? btw, I found that huge heatsink/fan for $50...so not that much more expensive. I just wanna know if it will fit in my case and not interfer with components. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnL Posted October 25, 2005 I wouldnt put that coolermaster thing on my proc if they gave it to me for free. Hell the stock unit is keeping things in check at 45 during gameplay and not much higher on prime! XP-90 is the only other heatsink that I would consider putting on my proc, that or water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shinzoy Posted October 25, 2005 If you look at my sig i got the 90C with the panaflo, my machine is quiet and with a 500MHZ overclock on full load i do not go higher than 38 degree. it is well worth the money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidhammock200 Posted October 25, 2005 If you look at my sig i got the 90C with the panaflo, my machine is quiet and with a 500MHZ overclock on full load i do not go higher than 38 degree. it is well worth the money.And with a standard XP-90, it would probably be 40C. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorrento Posted October 25, 2005 Wait, does my CPU lost its warranty because I had a XP90.... and then changed to a XP90C? If so, these 3 deg are the most expensive temperature diference ever Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula Posted October 26, 2005 Heavy Beast! With fans what 1Kg+? This is the 3rd time you have posted this! Do you sell these on commission? LOL, hardly :shake:. And David, are you “STOCKING” me? :eek: lol, ya, he wants refferal[sic] money The $$$ would be nice, but no :shake:. There are several of big, heavy HS's, that can shave 2C to 3C off the XP-90, but mounting them voids your CPU & mobo warranties... AND Wait, does my CPU lost its warranty because I had a XP90.... and then changed to a XP90C? If so, these 3 deg are the most expensive temperature diference ever... Way to start a panic Dave . You know we all love ya’ man, but I mean come on. Sorrento, dude, do you plan on OverClocking (which it appears you already are)? If so, you VOID your warranty :sad:. The main point of this forum is for support on OverClocking and “modding” for your DFI and DFI related equipment :nod:. If you aren’t going to be doing any OverClocking or modding on your DFI or AMD stuff and an issue arises, you should give Frank Wong a call at the official DFI LANPARTY tech-support line (510-274-8000). If you intend on OverClocking and modding, thereby VOIDING your warranty, you have come to the right place here at DFI-Street. Also Sorrento, do not panic, I have had my setup with the 690 gram XP-90C for over 8 months now and nothing has been damaged or hurt by it . Additionally, if you are so worried about warranties but you still intend on OverClocking and/or modding, some words of advice, do not admit to anything but stock anything if you do encounter a problem. But my “official” stance is, “do everything by the book; do everything stock!”, ROFLMAO...! also they are expensive & difficult to mount, if a max of 4C is that important then go water! Just MO, Dave... They are hardly difficult to mount. It doesn’t require a Rocket Scientist :eek2: to mount these VERY secure HSF’s. If it’s that complicated for you, you should stick to “stock” everything and you should not be posting here. I agree, however, that liquid cooling will give you an extra 10 to 20 degrees better thermal control, but it is also up to 10 times the cost of air. So no, it really ain’t all that expensive by comparison. Cheery Bye... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sorrento Posted October 26, 2005 Dracula, hehe I was exagerating and actually doing some sarcasm about David's remarks about weight. I know he is trying to help and as such I am glad he is. Large weight heatsinks have been pointed as a risk for motherboards and processors, but in practice do you think a 1 kg weight is enough to break a motherboard if this mobo is holding it horizontally and the 1 kg (2.2 lbs) is attached directly in the middle? The answer is NO, since the PCB is a very hard nut to crack; maybe a 15 or 16 lbs. bowling ball would ... that thing reminds me of carbon fiber or kevlar hehe. That 1 kg (2.2 lbs) over the 1.5 x 1.5 inches area of the cpu is is roughly 1 lbs x sq(in), not much presure considering the material the heatspreader is made of and how it transfer force thru all the socket. What I have seen are heatsinks scratched because of too much tension in the screws (SP94). What really must be paid attention about heavy weights is how the springs on the heatsinks might not be enough to hold it in position, and therefore the heatsink will eventually loose contact with the upper part of the cpu's area making poor heat transfer and eventually overheating the cpu. I already saw this with a very old Pentium IV 2.0A and one of those humungus Coolermaster heatsinks out there. The XP90-C weights 690 gr. plus 250 gr. for the 92 mm fan thats a lot, but not even close to the Coolermaster Hyper something that weights even more. My XP90C is doing its job right now, and I doubt this will ever happen to it. You are 100% right about everything you said, of course overclocking voids your warranty... hell, using a DFI motherboard should also void your warranty, because in the metaphysical and theoretical scenario of a user buying these DFI boards, wouldn't you agree ALL SHOULD BE OVERCLOCKERS? Hell yes! hehe. Of course some mod should come here and erase this and other messages, just for the sake of everyone :tooth: I think I can hold my own about overclocking with out destroying hardware (knock on wood :shake: ), but its nice to know there are people here and where you mentioned that might help me if I ever need help... which is almost everyday. Cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dracula Posted October 26, 2005 Dracula, hehe I was exagerating and actually doing some sarcasm about David's remarks about weight. I know he is trying to help and as such I am glad he is. Large weight heatsinks have been pointed as a risk for motherboards and processors, but in practice do you think a 1 kg weight is enough to break a motherboard if this mobo is holding it horizontally and the 1 kg (2.2 lbs) is attached directly in the middle? The answer is NO, since the PCB is a very hard nut to crack; maybe a 15 or 16 lbs. bowling ball would ... that thing reminds me of carbon fiber or kevlar hehe. That 1 kg (2.2 lbs) over the 1.5 x 1.5 inches area of the cpu is is roughly 1 lbs x sq(in), not much presure considering the material the heatspreader is made of and how it transfer force thru all the socket. What I have seen are heatsinks scratched because of too much tension in the screws (SP94). What really must be paid attention about heavy weights is how the springs on the heatsinks might not be enough to hold it in position, and therefore the heatsink will eventually loose contact with the upper part of the cpu's area making poor heat transfer and eventually overheating the cpu. I already saw this with a very old Pentium IV 2.0A and one of those humungus Coolermaster heatsinks out there. The XP90-C weights 690 gr. plus 250 gr. for the 92 mm fan thats a lot, but not even close to the Coolermaster Hyper something that weights even more. My XP90C is doing its job right now, and I doubt this will ever happen to it. You are 100% right about everything you said, of course overclocking voids your warranty... hell, using a DFI motherboard should also void your warranty, because in the metaphysical and theoretical scenario of a user buying these DFI boards, wouldn't you agree ALL SHOULD BE OVERCLOCKERS? Hell yes! hehe. Of course some mod should come here and erase this and other messages, just for the sake of everyone :tooth: I think I can hold my own about overclocking with out destroying hardware (knock on wood :shake: ), but its nice to know there are people here and where you mentioned that might help me if I ever need help... which is almost everyday. Cheers! I completely agree with everything you just said :nod:. I put the 92mm, 119CFM Vantec Tornado on my XP-90C. The "Tornado" only weighs 187 grams. As far as the noise, I have mine on a controller so I very rarely have it at its full “noise-deafening” RPM's. Cheery Bye... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites