{pdX}pyrosee Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Sry, join the club Its not a driver, its a problem with the NF4 chipset which is why creative hasn't been able to do much about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyclone Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Sry, join the club Its not a driver, its a problem with the NF4 chipset which is why creative hasn't been able to do much about it. And how do you KNOW that. Based on History it is a Creative problem, I've used their products for almost 20 years in different systems and they ALWAYS have problems with their new products and Creative ALWAYS blames the problems on everyone else. It may be different this time, but I wouldn't bet my money on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank the tank Posted November 8, 2005 Posted November 8, 2005 Dang, after seeing this I'm a bit hesitant to install mine when it comes in about two days from now. It would seem that flashing the board to bios 623 has helped some peoples issues. Any official response from DFI on a fix? Is there a rev. # on the X-FI's that let you know it's an updated one that will work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceDiamond Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 I took mine back to Best Buy for now - make no mistake, I do *want* an X-Fi, just as soon as I read someplace they fixed the problem. From what I've read, the problem in NF4 mobos ranges from "no problem at all, works great" to "sometimes bluescreens" to "won't boot." I am sure I could have installed my X-Fi and *maybe* had good luck. For that matter had it started bluescreening, I know how to capture the dumps and do some analysis on them - though without source code to the NF4 drivers and Creative's drivers, I wouldn't have got too far. Maybe I could help Creative figure out what their problem is - and I *do* think it's their problem - their comments about a temp firmware "workaround" for the X-Fi cards doesn't make a lot of sense. And the NF4 chipset has been out for a hell of a lot longer than the X-Fi. I'll bet they're saying it's a mobo problem at least in part because they're not exactly sure what is wrong - but they know something they can do in firmware or a mobo vendor can do in BIOS fixes it. When you're not sure what is wrong, blame someone else - that is one of the basic tennents of support! Regardless, I couldn't be happier with how my brand new rig is working - and I'm just not gonna stick a sound card in that might bluescreen - even a little (a little bit of a bluescreen problem is like being a little bit pregnant). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletToothTony Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 Word is the lastest ones out on the shelves have the fixed firmware. I might pick one up tomorrow and give it a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisdj Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 And how do you KNOW that. Based on History it is a Creative problem, I've used their products for almost 20 years in different systems and they ALWAYS have problems with their new products and Creative ALWAYS blames the problems on everyone else. It may be different this time, but I wouldn't bet my money on it. ummm... maybe coz problems show at boot well before the creative drivers had been loaded, so a driver issue is moot, what could change is the creative rom, but it seems a bios flash helps most people. i installed an x-fi platinum on a sli-dr 623 bios no problems att all, but then had the hissing and popping problem. talk about annoying. that resolved when i disable my wireless pci card, seems that only having 2 pci slots makes choices on card spacing much more difficukt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nil Einne Posted November 11, 2005 Posted November 11, 2005 According to Creative this should be solvable with a bios update and if not, you can send your card back for an EEPROM update http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=1480 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
{pdX}pyrosee Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 And how do you KNOW that. Based on History it is a Creative problem, I've used their products for almost 20 years in different systems and they ALWAYS have problems with their new products and Creative ALWAYS blames the problems on everyone else. It may be different this time, but I wouldn't bet my money on it. Because thats what the guy at creative told me when I called tech support. And thats what DFI told me when I called them. DFI had no time frame for an update when I called, and suggested I send my card back to creative so they could hand modify the BIOS. Its a NF4 issue. Thats why all the other NF4 boards are having issues, not just DFI. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcoggs Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 I finally decided to try my luck and install one of these. I went from one of the original Audigy cards to the x-fi. So far no problems. I did get a reboot while booting into windows after the intial crative driver install, but it has not happened since. I must say that even after having the other audigy, this was night and day. Very impressed with sound quality, especially with headphones. I guess I was lucky that I didn't have any problems. I am going to swap pci slots because right now its sharing IRQ's with the vid card, and Creative says it doesn't need to share IRQ's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bastieh Posted November 12, 2005 Posted November 12, 2005 hi threre, just installed my brand new x-i extreme music on my nf4 ultra-d without any problems at all. i might have been lucky to get an updated one. like Dcoggs' card it shares irq with my vid card, but i didn't have any problems gaming so far. gonna try switching the pci slot so it gets its own irq. is there a way to force an irq to a certain pci slot in the bios? i was able to do it on one of my older mobos. anyway this card sounds great, especially compared to the onboard crap. i hope you people having problems get it fixed soon... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
{pdX}pyrosee Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I finally decided to try my luck and install one of these. I went from one of the original Audigy cards to the x-fi. So far no problems. I did get a reboot while booting into windows after the intial crative driver install, but it has not happened since. I must say that even after having the other audigy, this was night and day. Very impressed with sound quality, especially with headphones. I guess I was lucky that I didn't have any problems. I am going to swap pci slots because right now its sharing IRQ's with the vid card, and Creative says it doesn't need to share IRQ's. Ya this card sounds beautiful. I hope you dont have the compat probs, sounds like you dont! Have fun with it. I love the crystalizer- brings out high end very well! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpaul82 Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I just curious to know whether is NF4 chipset problem or the X-Fi card problem ? :confused: some said is the NF4 chipset incompatible , but some said is the card itself problem... anyone can anwser me ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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