Sunserrae Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 I believe all the computer info should be in sig for ya. I built this machine beginning of the month. After flashing BIOS, updating drivers, and so forth all was well in the world for the most part. Had an occasional bug here and there in a simple config(s) to change here and there (like illiminating a lot of M$'s defaults.. but hey, who doesn't right). Anyways, it's primarily a second machine in my office for working on all of the video editing for DVD, websites, and so forth. But I also use it for some gaming when other computer's tied up. So I get all of the programs installed, and they all seem to be working magnificantly. Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, Cleaner XL, and so on. Crunches video in a 1/3 the time of main PC which is less than a year old. Mavelous! Had oringally only been able to get the machine to accept one stick of RAM, but flashed BIOS, and problem seemed to be fixed. So then I decide since it's blazing with these programs, should be a dream for my games. So I install EQ II and the nightmares begin... From the get go there are system freezes, crashes, and all kinds of what seem to be video card problems. The not so handy M$ errors come up with something about drivers being wrong, or changing config in BIOS or something. Have seen a few different one's, and always something new. So I go get those latest drivers. Follow the rules, and uninstall old, then install new. Reboot. Still problems. Go check for every kinda driver for every piece of equipment... audio, video, bios, etc. Install, flash, update. Done. Problem persists. Try to reset to optimum setting in bios with a few changes. Mainly that annoying Lan Party graphic, boot sequence, and things of that nature. Start EQ, same .. There are two fans in the case, so I do not think it can be overheating. Crashes during zoning sometimes. Crashes during fighting. Sometimes crashes when had taken a rest, and then start to run off again. Doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason. Had tried different things in BIOS before doing the flash to fix the dual RAM problem, and nothing seems to have solved this. I've researched for two weeks, various sites, game boards, sony technical support, and so on. Have done, or tried everything suggested before returning to BIOS optimum defaults. Now, on occasion to this, I will get where a program crashes for no reason. Doesn't happen a lot, and mainly when doing video editing. But still happens on occasion. The main grief is with game(s). Any tips or suggestions would be appreciated. After weeks or reading ,researching, and googling, I am at wit's end. :drool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THunDA Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 380Watt ATX12V Thats way under spec.. Having a underpowered psu will cause all sorts of odd problems.. While I dont know if this will definitly fix your problem its the first step in the right direction.. Check out the psu guide in my sig to see which psu's are proven to work well with DFI NF4's and also meet the required specs.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Thats way under spec.. Having a underpowered psu will cause all sorts of odd problems.. While I dont know if this will definitly fix your problem its the first step in the right direction.. Check out the psu guide in my sig to see which psu's are proven to work well with DFI NF4's and also meet the required specs.. Kewl beans on the help. Could be part of the problem indeed as obviously a game like EQII would be a major system draw versus a lot of other programs. Reading through the guide, but I am not a techie by trade. Know just enough to be dangerous. Do you have some advice on the remedy? Not just name brand, but what I should look for in ordering, or to pick up swinging through a Best Buy or something to try and fix this. Like the minimum 500 watts, etc? Thanks again! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Switched out the power. Now have a 550 watt. Problem persists. So now that the power issue's been addressed. What's the next step? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boppo Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 What PSU did you get? As DavidHammock points out in his guide, all are not created equal. Have you used something like MBM to keep track of your temps? Having 2 fans does not mean you are keeping cool. Read on how to add your video card to the monitoring too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 550W: $87 > 3yr warranty nVidia SLi certified +3.3V@32A, +5V@40A, +12V1@19A, +12V2@19A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A Yes. Got this one. MBM?? Off the top of my head, I am drawing a blank. :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyG Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 550W: $87 > 3yr warrantynVidia SLi certified +3.3V@32A, +5V@40A, +12V1@19A, +12V2@19A, -12V@1A, +5VSB@2A Yes. Got this one. MBM?? Off the top of my head, I am drawing a blank. :confused: Sounds like a good PSU - have you tried running MEM86 (memory tester) in your bios for a while - can it run for an hour or two without issues? Have you tried PRIME95 (another system torture test) and had it run for a couple hours? If these two run reliably we can guess that it's a software issue of some kind and go from there. Also: Try uninstalling the nvidia firewall (active armor etc) and don't use the NvidiaSWBUS driver. If you're not sure how to remove the ide driver just uninstall all nvidia chipset stuff from the add/remove programs menu in the control panel. Restart your pc and reinstall the chipset drivers (get the latest from Nvidia.com). Install everything except for active armor/firewall and when it asks if you want to install the Nvidia SWBUS driver say no. The standard nvidia drivers it installs instead may be more reliable. Let us know! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 16, 2005 Posted September 16, 2005 Haven't run those tests, but I did as you suggested. Actually, I flashed BIOS first. I had noticed a conflict, which had to do wit bus, and I am guessing it was a problem you had referred to with SWBUS. Anyways, flashed BIOS. Then I went in and removed drivers as you had suggested. Rebooted. Already had that updated from nvidia, so cancelled out of all it's requests to find drivers, etc. Installed all but the SWBUS, Firewall, Forceware. Rebooted. Where as before, the WIN XP wouldn't even make a single pass in the bar before start up, now it makes about 10 before loading to WIN. So there is a problem somewhere. Also reran check for conflicts, and came up with this report. I do not speak techie, so I am sure there is something else that needs resolved in this. Not sure where to start.. I/O Port 0x00000000-0x000003AF PCI bus I/O Port 0x00000000-0x000003AF Direct memory access controller I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT Memory Address 0xF4000000-0xFBFFFFFF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port Memory Address 0xF4000000-0xFBFFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT IRQ 20 Standard OpenHCD USB Host Controller IRQ 20 NVIDIA Network Bus Enumerator Memory Address 0xD8000000-0xDFFFFFFF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port Memory Address 0xD8000000-0xDFFFFFFF NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT IRQ 22 NVIDIA® nForce Audio Codec Interface IRQ 22 Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller I/O Port 0x00006000-0x0000FFFF PCI bus I/O Port 0x00006000-0x0000FFFF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port IRQ 17 VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller IRQ 17 NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF PCI bus Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003DF PCI bus I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003DF nForce4 PCI-Express Root Port I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003DF NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT Memory Address 0xFEB00000-0xFEBFFFFF PCI bus Memory Address 0xFEB00000-0xFEBFFFFF Standard Enhanced PCI to USB Host Controller I/O Port 0x00000290-0x0000030F Motherboard resources I/O Port 0x00000290-0x0000030F Motherboard resources :drool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Well, fixed the slow loading problem. Just out of dumb luck, I was going through device manager, and looking at each little thing to see if there were any other conflicts. While doing this, against my better judgement, I was methodically clicking the 'update driver' as I was going through. Well low and behold, when I got to the ATA/HD drivers, and updated, rebooted. Tada! Back to WIN XP not making it through one blue bar on launch, and load. Back to how it was. Whew. Was a bit worried. Now just have to worry about that error above, which I am guessing for some reason is a IRQ conflict, or driver conflict perhaps?? :drool: :drool: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunserrae Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 Bump. Anyone know, or have a shot in the dark about that error message?? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SloppyG Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 i'm sorry - what is the actual error message? i couldnt work it out from the above posts cheers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Games Posted September 17, 2005 Posted September 17, 2005 what was the error message? and the NV IDE driver is known to cause all kinds of bad problems (I only use it when using RAID) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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