noobs need help building a dream machine :)

[blinch]

First of all thank you for that great forum!!!

Can someone help me choosing some hardware for my new PC?

I want to buy a DFI Lanpart NF4 Ultra, an Athlon 64 Venice 3000+, an ANTEC TruePower2 PSU, and a case with a least 2*120mm fans (intake+exhaust).

First: Is that choice a good choice?

Second: What power do I need? I have 3 possibilities 380,430 and 480W???

Third and most important: What RAM do I have to buy. I want 2*512Mb (knowing I'm limited by the x9 multiplier of the 3000+)

I have these choices: Corsair TWINX1024-3200XL, Corsair TWINX1024-3200XLPRO, Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2, Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2PRO, OCZ Platinum Serie, OCZ Gold Serie GX, OCZ Gold Serie, anything else ???

I'll try to overclock to the max...and I don't play a lot, so it's more for business use what is the best choice?

Thank you for your help

[TheFlowerKing]

First : Seems good, dunno about the psu though, not my area.

Second : As much power as you can.

Third : Some tccd/tcc5 ram if you want to use a 3000+ and a 9x multi.

[saswok]

what games do you play?

for business use you probably wont need to oc unless you are in the video and graphics industry.

for 24-7 use, maybe a moderate oc. if you play or plan on playing future games,

i would recomend getting 2 x 1gb kit that overclocks well like crucial ballistix.

the ballistix will be future proof and you will have two slots open this is a good thing trust me. you will be bf2 ready this is a good thing also, try this game if you havnt yet.

 

psu - best budget i would recommend fortron blue 500watt like 70-80$ online

high end like an ocz power 520-600watt.

 

video card - all depends what games you play but an ati x800 pro is 220$ at newegg right now and will work well for all games right now.

 

now if u want to future proof and fly on all the games prolly the 7800 gtx by nvidia

i think you can actually get 2 of those if you get sli board, i think they are sli ready?

2 will cost about a grand

 

you did say in your post "dream system" right? lol!

 

cpu cooler - xp-90c with a panaflo fan for 35$ or you could go with a water cooling for around 220$

 

make sure the power supply is 500watts plus period and 24 pin native.

 

some would say to get the 3200+ for the 10 multi but either way you will be fine.

 

 

be careful its addictive, i ended up buying all the nicer stuff eventually and my son was happy cuz he got upgraded.

if i could do it over again i would have just bought nicer stuff and saved some money in the long run!

[saswok]

lol just noticed i havnt updated my sig in a while lol. looks more like my sons setup

now.

[Guest nomad]

For a good case I am really impressed with the Thermaltake Armor. The black is a bit heavy but has the best airflow I have ever seen and is great for filtering dust. I have 2 Panflo 120mm "Ultras" on a rheobus and run them quite high, and my case is dust free. It is pretty solid as well and easy to work on.

 

The Coolermaster Stacker is another case I would want. I couldnt find one locally, so I got the Tt Armor.

[Gorgias-Flux]

There are cheaper PSUs out there for sure, but the reason these forums have a stickied post on reccomended power supplies is because prior to that there were so very many posts about people having PSU related issues. I would reccomend spending some money on a good PSU. I love my Enermax so quiet, so clean, but make your own choice. Here is the list:

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread...+power+supplies

 

Here is a step by step build guide that I followed, it is stickied in the NF4 MOBO Area. (Which you should go and read if you are going to build one of these.)

 

http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6615

 

Good luck, now go read the NF4 Forums to get an idea on how to build. Believe me, you are a long way off from Overclocking the machine. These things are wonderful time sinks.

[blinch]

First : Seems good, dunno about the psu though, not my area.

Second : As much power as you can.

Third : Some tccd/tcc5 ram if you want to use a 3000+ and a 9x multi.

Thanks for you answer! which tccd/tcc5 do you recommand? I want to try to reach 2.7Ghz with my 3000+

[blinch]

Thank you for this long and clear answer!!!

what games do you play? It's a shame but I don't play games...

for business use you probably wont need to oc unless you are in the video and graphics industry. I'll do a lot of video editing, dvd to divx conversions and so...

for 24-7 use, maybe a moderate oc. if you play or plan on playing future games,

i would recomend getting 2 x 1gb kit that overclocks well like crucial ballistix. These are impossible to find in Switzerland :sad: Do you have another advice? What can I buy to reach multi 9 (3000+) * 300Mhz = 2.7Ghz (my dream...)?

the ballistix will be future proof and you will have two slots open this is a good thing trust me. you will be bf2 ready this is a good thing also, try this game if you havnt yet.

 

psu - best budget i would recommend fortron blue 500watt like 70-80$ online

high end like an ocz power 520-600watt. What about Antec TruePower?

 

video card - all depends what games you play but an ati x800 pro is 220$ at newegg right now and will work well for all games right now. Much too expensive!!! I'll probably buy an X600 caus' I don't need much 3D power...

now if u want to future proof and fly on all the games prolly the 7800 gtx by nvidia

i think you can actually get 2 of those if you get sli board, i think they are sli ready?

2 will cost about a grand

 

you did say in your post "dream system" right? lol! My dream system is to reach 2.7Ghz with a 3000+ and beat a Pentium 4 3.4Ghz in professionnal tasks for half the price of it if possible...

 

cpu cooler - xp-90c with a panaflo fan for 35$ or you could go with a water cooling for around 220$

 

make sure the power supply is 500watts plus period and 24 pin native. I take the note

 

some would say to get the 3200+ for the 10 multi but either way you will be fine.

 

 

be careful its addictive, i ended up buying all the nicer stuff eventually and my son was happy cuz he got upgraded.

if i could do it over again i would have just bought nicer stuff and saved some money in the long run!

[TheFlowerKing]

Thanks for you answer! which tccd/tcc5 do you recommand? I want to try to reach 2.7Ghz with my 3000+

 

There are quite a few out there that will do what you need (300MHz @ 2.5-4-3).

Geil One S, multiple GSkill modules, various OCZ modules.

It's all down to price and what's available to you.

[blinch]

There are quite a few out there that will do what you need (300MHz @ 2.5-4-3).

Geil One S, multiple GSkill modules, various OCZ modules.

It's all down to price and what's available to you.

 

I've read that it's better to buy low latency PC-3200 2-2-2-5-1 and run with a divider? What do you think about it?

[TheFlowerKing]

I've read that it's better to buy low latency PC-3200 2-2-2-5-1 and run with a divider? What do you think about it?

 

Well, I know my experience with dividers has not been so great on the NF4 platform.

If you had a 3200+ with a 10x multi, you may be able to pull off 10x260 @ 2-2-2-5 @ 1:1, but with a 3000+ you'd definitely need to run a divider.

It's an option for you to think about, personally I like tccd because it runs fast and relatively cool with low voltage (2.6-2.9v) required.

With some Winbond based ram (2-2-2-5) you need to put more voltage through the modules (3.1-3.6v) and this requires active cooling and raises the system temps overall.

IMO Winbond is great for benching whilst tccd/tcc5 is great for everyday use.

[Guest Blooz1]

OK, here ya go - "hot off the presses!" AG has just done a study on the divider issue, some very good info here;

 

Tight Timings + Dividers Vs. Loose Timings @ 1:1

 

Should be a "must read"!