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  1. And boy are the temps interesting. I was using an IC carbon thermal pad and was having good results. Under an H115i rgb Corsair system, I could run 75% fans and see 80 deg.c at 100% load....I'm running the same equipment on the 3700x, and I am seeing 4.2 ghz ALL-core at 91c. That's very close to the 96 max but that's also at 100% fan on the rad and pump speed. I think I'm going to have to just give in and order up some thermal paste like I used to run. HW monitor is showing 119 watts as well (Where the 1500x topped 80 watts)....I definitely should look at the block/cpu interface. As the AIO heatsoaks, the temp is trickling up just ever so slowly. 92 now and seems to have settled. The case has good flow. variances: HWmonitor is the monitoring software. OCCT for the stress test is saying the CPUtin is 68.5, but I'm wondering what it's using to measure. HWmonitor is ttops or near top of lists of best monitoring software and seeing what it showed last time with the 1500x, it's probably accurate. Any ideas on ta better way to measure here? Or am I on track. I'm suspicious becuase the AIO system is a 250watt unit......or should be. I updated the BIOS before all of this, and the only thing I did after setting everything to default settings is activate the XMP memory profile for the team dark 3200 cl14 memory. Otherwise I left things alone. However it's not adjusting cpu speed all over the place, but seems rock solid at 4.2. I will look into things to make sure it's not accidentally OC'd. Board: msi b450m mortar titanium (the mosfets and board temps were 65 c or below during this) MEM: samsung b-die pc3200 cl14. Thoughts? (Idle temps have come down to 44 deg since I shut down the test.
  2. Last fall I bought a 1500x a year+ after it's introduction for $135 and only just now is it back to that as a regular price. (It's comfortably running 4ghz all core daily under an H115i pro rgb pulling 81w @ load.) and it's just a place holder until the 7nm process came out. Well it's out now, and I'm curious if all of you market followers think we can expect a slight price drop for the holidays like we saw in the 2k series. I ssaw the 2700x debut at $330 and in the days leading up to black friday saw it drop to $310 and then hit a 1 day black friday/cmonday of $270 and then go back up. Should we expect similar behavior for the 3k series? I'm wanting to finish my plan with the 3900x in my b450 (yes its a good one for that) and sit for the next 10 years like i did with the x4 965. If this follows last years example we may see the 3900x for $450 or 425 briefly, Especially when the 3950 hits shelves. What say you? Am I thinking logically or should I see someone about apparent dementia.
  3. I'm late to the Ryzen party, but this is the stop gap upgrade chip. I'm waiting for the 3k series ryzen which, for me, will be the 8 core and the one lasting the next 8 years+. In the meantime, I thought I'd see what I can do with this. apparently [email protected] vCore is the sweet spot.1.3625 seems to work well @ 4.0 on cinebench. I'll try to adjust down a little bit towards that once I'm guaranteed stability. Getting 4.1 is lots more voltage, takes 1.425, and [email protected] freezes cinebench. So if i want 4.1 for a daily oc I would have to fry it. So I guess I sort of win a lottery here. I'll play with the memory timings and see if i can run [email protected] timings with the samsung b-die i have. That might really fine tune things. Temps? Using the Corsair H115i platinum RGB pro thing, the one with colors over performance, and see 70c at about 60% fans. If I go 100%, it's loud and only 2-3 deg better.
  4. something over 15% I think is what I saw. All my notes kinda got thrown out. Were I to do it again I might have opted for the 2600G and run the 1070 through the APU and out the onboard HDMI to attach freesync to the output. I would have had a decent OC as well on that to not quite what I have now but close enough to accomplish the upgrade goal. I'm curious to see what APU ryzen 3 chips will be like.
  5. Speaking of Lan Parties...Not sure if you've seen one lately, but I used a DFI Lanparty NF-II ultra-b (can they get any more unnecessary in naming things?) board for a couple years. So an event like that was so popular it creeped into advertising. Like "gaming" is today. The box for it even had a hoodie sweater guy. Complete with blurred cans of mountain dew and a can of Bawlz. Because if I wanted any image to promote what I would become if I used a product, that's exactly what I wanted to be! An over caffeinated dude with bad posture and a beige desktop! yessssss. (not my image...)
  6. My first performance build in '03 used the Thermaltake Volcano 12 heatsink. Manual speed control knob. It was the hot item on newegg at the time. When booting up BF1942 on a 45% overclock, it was a howling hairdryer!!
  7. robAP

    Ya'll Won't Believe It

    My signature has my new new build in it. The xmas prize lasted 8+ years with only 2 gpu swaps and a memory kit. it was time. But I do need to also second the comment about Gigabyte's VRM. I went with MSI's b450 board cause their VRM's are solid and quite capable, at least on this board.
  8. robAP

    Ryzen 2600X or Ryzen 7 1700?

    I suggest asking yourself how long you plan on keeping this 8 core chip. I was looking at the 2700x but since I knew the 3000 series would be coming next year, regardless of any announcements ahead, I knew it would be wise to wait until then if I was planning on keeping the next build for as long as my last one (8 years) so I once I saw the 1500x on sale for $139, that was the answer. I'll run it until thanksgiving next year when the 3700x hits on sale. Reason being, the 3000 series will be on the AM4 socket, so the 1500x, which BTW is running at 4.0 on all cores [email protected], hums along just fine on pc3200 ram. If you have to build a system right now, like I did, then get everything you need for futureproofing, and grab a 1400x or 1500x or something in that price range and sit for the next year. I wasn't going to spend $300 on the 2700x only for a year later to have something show up for that same price and it be 25% faster/better/stronger. It is a big leap ahead, not just a standard march.
  9. robAP

    (WTB) AMD Phenon II X2, X3 or X4 cpu

    huh....just run some solder lines or some real fine work with a mag glass?
  10. There we go. The 655 pump was in the front under the drive cages. pulled from the res, pumped up to the waterblock which emptied into the radiator windowside and then put the other side back to the res. It all dodged the X1900xt card nicely, which was loud as hell....the only thing that made noise here. I had the 2 disk raid in heat pipe drive coolers (cause really there was nowhere else to put them with the pump taking their space) up in the 5.25 drive bays with a fan flowing on them from the front. I cut the bottom out of the case for the radiator to sit in with a draw through red led fan system. I realize this is on the back of your time frame window, but period correct. I did post a pic of it on and running, reg glow everywhere when all other builds were blue leds, in this forum back in the day but it looks like that thread has been purged. My notes of the time showed something about my socket 939 opteron [email protected] daily. I think the temps maxed at 56?
  11. I JUST combined all my old files into one drive and went through pictures. Umm, I might have erased quite a few images including some build photos. I'll see what I might be able to find, there's a lot. But what I did have was from probably 2005 when I went water cooled in a Cooler Master CM5 case using a pvc pipe resivoir on an AMD XPm thunderbird chip. got 2.6ghz on that. Had red LED fans as well. I then rebuilt it with the 939 opteron chip. I'll look for it and post something. Bought a 90 deg. 24pin adapter a while back. Workin great. Ill try to post a pic of that in play too. REALLY keeps things slim inside.
  12. robAP

    (WTB) AMD Phenon II X2, X3 or X4 cpu

    Oh, man if you caught me a month ago I would have fixed you up. I think. I'm not sure. I just put the old rig in another case and built a new one. Otherwise I would have parted it all out, chip to you, etc. I'm in a quandary about it though. Cause I just scratched the back of the board my 965 is on while doing a heatsink change and now lost memory slots 2 and 4....however that happens. so i'm down to half a 16gig kit on what is destined to be the basement fitness/MAME computer. Should you be looking for a 16gig set or 770 card or something like that I can do a package deal. prices on everything are falling out of the sky this season. message me off topic with the needs.
  13. I've collected these through time. All working system pulls. Using the 770 now even. Got a 1070 to replace it but may sell that later on depending on whatever. Probably keep it until the new amd stuff shows up. Where you see two, i indeed have two. ill cross them off when they sell. evga GTX 770 ($140 shipped) keepin unless i part out a system. evga GTX 560 ($40 shipped) evga GTX 560 ($40 shipped) XFX HD 5850 ($40 shipped) XFX HD 5850 ($40 shipped) Sapphire HD 4850 (wtf? Yeah i still have one. $15 shipped) HD 4650 (lol,was htpc card. $8.43) ill ebay them shortly if no action here. The last two would make great emulator/MAME cards.
  14. i am using 0 instead 0f '0h' because the '0h' key n0w c0mmands minimize/fullscreen taggling instead 0f the letter...um..'0h'. This is after the kids were playing 0n the b0ard thinking it was fun t0 mash keys s0 i have n0 idea what they did 0r h0w, but n0w when it c0mes t0 fixing it, L0gitech has n0thing f0r me as every single menti0n 0f key maps 0r macr0s g0es t0 the G macr0 keys and setting them up f0r keybinding games. Any0ne kn0w h0w t0 reset the G510/19 internal KB mem0ry? It sat in a desk drawer f0r 6-8 m0nths unplugged h0ping it w0uld reset itself....N0PE! th0ughts?
  15. eh, didnt work. Logitech tech support, after 2 hours or so, threw in the towel, said the O key can't be programmed and emailed me a 30% off coupon for up to 3 devices from their online store. Not sure if i'm gonna use it for a keyboard. Eying a Ducky One2 mx brown board at the moment. oh well. it was 8 years. I'm guessing at this point their key can be programmed, but the engineers themselves didn't know how through secret key combos randomly discovered by children.
  16. It's been fun. I took the parts out then cleaned out the case with a shop vac and 3" paint brush. It will do wonders to really make it look new. Advances in case design have mixed quiet with visuals now so this 550d case is now reaching obsolescence. The Fractal R6 has sound deadening properties and with the air flow allowances most cases have today with fan controllers, quiet is guaranteed through smart building instead of sound deadening brute force. So this case is now going to the brother in law for his server board. I got a 280x corsair crystal on the way. But it was a good many years with this one.
  17. I went from active user to lurker in the last ten years, but I thought the place wouldn't mind some light reading. I won the OCC christmas grand prize in 2009. The economy hadn't fully crashed yet and I was packing up to move across the country when Bosco called to tell me I won. I was astonished and was sort of slowing down my serious gaming in life (kid, work, wife, house, etc.) but this was a new injection. So a few months later, a big box showed up with all the goods. Most of which were supplied by Corsair and sponsors. So I built it, then moved. Over time it served me Very well. Very very well. And in my mind is proof that spending more money early on for the better components and using it for ten years will be the future ticket to any build for me...except for the GPU, as that gets replaced more often. (except for video cards) So as of yesterday, the system, which can still game very well, was prepared to move on to greener pastures... in the basement for use down there. However, in the process, I may have inadvertently extended its usefulness. Heres a spec list OG system: Phenom II X4 965 @ 3.4ghz gigabyte MA790xt ud4p 8gb 1333mhz dominator ram with cooling fan (which began a bearing rattle after 4 years but never outright failed) 2x HD5850 gpu's 2x SSD's 1tb storage Corsair Obsidian 800D case (ginormous) HX850 PSU H50 cpu aio liquid cooler I kept it like that until about 2 years later when I sold the incredibly huge and awesome flex piece of a case to my brother in law and put everything into a Corsair 550D silent case with factory foam sound deadening. Honestly, that 800D was way too big for the living arrangement I had and the noise....invasive to the rest of the house. Anyway now silent, It lived like that happily for years and years and indeed lived up to its name as a silent case. I highly recommend that. Then I started having video problems with my 3 monitor setup and later discovered it to be a monitor cable. That's it. But troubleshooting leads me to procure an R9-280 GPU which as a single unit had 50% more ram and was better and faster than the crossfire HD5850s. Then the brother in law was going through parts faster than I was at the time and I swapped that out for a GTX-770 and sent the R9 to the nephews who were dying in Fortnite and had no chance with their gear....now they are living well. I bought a 16gb ram kit because I noticed I was running low on ram...8gb was not enough! But then that was with windows 7 and games weren't crazy intensive like today. So in goes the 16gb....at a slower speed by accident. This last year the brother in law sold to me his GTX-1070 and I gave up on selling it on...I'll keep that one for a good while longer. So this is just the history of anyone else's computer. But this one has evolved and was still holding strong. It lacks USB3 and SATA3 and PCIe 3.0, I just have version 2 of everything. I started to feel I was missing out on throughput and speed and what not. I moved the OS to a 128gb SSD five years ago and that's decently faster and nice but I just don't like bottlenecking myself. So I planned the next computer as a Ryzen 2600 and M.2 drives, etc. But in moving this to a new case to get the nice case ready, I bought some PCIe cards. One for USB3.0, and another for SATA3. (I definitely should have cleaned the filters a bit more often. That's about 8 months worth Now that I think about it.) The USB3 is a gem. Perfect. I now have 2 ports in the back and the front ports connect up. I'm golden there. The SATA card works! It actually boots from PCIe now without any drivers yet, and the SSD speed? If anything it's a little bit faster but then that 830 samsung isn't nearly as fast as the 850's or 9xx one's today. My steam library is on 3 x 500g segates in raid-0. The read speeds on that are 100gb/s. Ptshhh! That's going M.2 as well as the OS next build. But the SSD speeds are now in the low to mid 300's on that SATA3 card. Not a bad $24! (new home, new 600w Tt PSU, just need cards and cooling) So I have, with the Pci band-aids, still a very decent computer. Never for video encoding or any of that but for casual games, good resolution on 1080i, and everything I need to do I could probably be just fine for another 5 years as I reach nearly 50 years old but the video cards will begin to be constricted in the pcie 2.0 slot. So It will work in the basement soon, running the Zwift cycling training software, MAME stuff and possibly file server duties now with now 10 SATA ports. So here it is, in the Thermaltake V31 case (I highly recommend using one of these. They have a lot going for them) until cyber monday comes along and I order up the new goods. But there is a thought in all of this. At what point is the right point to upgrade and still have some sort of value to your craigslist/ebay parts? This is well beyond that but still very functional. Anyway thank you for reading. Someday when you win the grand prize, you can have the same joy of nearly free computing for 9+ years. Thank you, Bosco and OCC, for being a great place for all of us techies.
  18. Thanks! BTW, the new case is also a return to louder fan lyfe.
  19. robAP

    GTX1070 superclocked

    Thanks! I'm probably going to go that route or perhaps the craigslist locally (denver area has lots of computer parts up)
  20. robAP

    GTX1070 superclocked

    Been a while since I've done much here, but I do need to move some equipment along. OCC has been great to me so here's a decent deal on a fab card. Working pull, just a few months old EVGA gtx1070 superclocked. (mfg website) $340 w/ free shipping via FedEx, 2nd day air. ( i get a decent discount on that shipping) This is my brother in law's. He went for a water-cooled option because he is building a all water/quiet box. (His box happens to be my '09 occ Xmas grand prize corsair 800 case) He does not mine. Just online games. Let me know.
  21. [EDIT: found problem and solution. This was a case of the video cable from card to monitor crapping out. New cable and I was fine. 5850's work just fine. I still ordered up an R9 280 in the end) Been a long time guys. How are ya? The 2009 X-mas grand prize rig has a pair of hd 5850's and the display ports are really causing a problem. What was the occasional one or two second black screen of my third monitor became a permanent black screen after a while until the reboot, but now, everything seems fine until i load up a game or something requiring the graphics. system reboot. (keep in mind, through out all of this, the screen orientation did not change, so it didnt revert to a two screen setup, it remained a widescreen three monitor set up just missing the right third of the visual....so i could have been getting shot at by someone and not know it.) I tried running just one card on three monitors, same problem. Swapped the cards around (bottom to top, top to bottom) and hooked it up and the same issue. Ran single cards next, changed it out to the other card, same problem. the display port connected monitor goes black and system reboots now. If I disconnect the display port cable, Catalyst changes orientation and tells me of a DP failure reverting to two-monitor only, so it's not really a failing cable connection. So it was a problem that slowly over time has become this. I now have a center monitor on one card hooked up and thats about 4 feet of desktop unused Searching the Google yields a thread somewhere that discussed the past history of them, saying the display ports were chronically under-volting themselves and one commenter posted a link to his own personally modded bios update for the card with a tweaked DP voltage but that's a broken link and i can't find anything new on the subject. Another non-issue here (since these were free) is the possibility of the warranty. It seems to qualify for the XFX extension into the lifetime period of warranty, however since i was not the original purchaser it is not transferable to me. Ideas folks? OR is it time to pony up the funds for the first time since 2008 and buy a powerful single card? -rob
  22. This started happening with the original install, and then continued happening into worse territory after a fresh install on to a new SSD. I even swapped around the monitors. I suppose a new card would be good since I haven't bought a serious performance card since an x1900xt in 2006...replaced with a used 4850 for almost equal ebay money. So I guess i'm due for something good. Next question is...they are perfectly good for a single monitor if not two monitors, i could sell them i suppose with a disclaimer that the DP is gone for all intensive purposes. I don't know what I would get from them but they work very well for that scenario.
  23. redone for present devices. Friends, I have a house I have been in for a while now. I have a box in this house filling with parts I will never use again and need to find a good home for them as long as you have money for me. I will be adding prices. changes to those prices, and other parts i find. I need shelf space because I am beginning restoration of a english mini. the list: Sapphire HD4850 1gb = $45 (hdmi output, 7.1 passthrough) Sapphire HD4850 512mb = $35 (very same one reviewed at OCC.) i just went DSL and have my cable setup to sell. Motorola surfboard SB6120 cable modem. = $45 (very same one reviewed at OCC.) SOLD to cjLoki D-link DIR-655 gigabit 4-port wireless router = $45 (very same one reviewed at OCC.) prices subject to change and i will do so on here when my brain decided what to do.
  24. old. well i have a WD 1gb drive. if you look at my topics history you'll find i ran it in HD tach against my newer single 80gb WD drive. was interesting in how far we have come in speeds. That was back in 2004 i think. Have a bigfoot drive around. A friend of a friend has a full on TRS-80 setup complete with the second box of 8" floppy's and i think there was a hard drive option too . he had the whole deal AND the printer it came with. still under the plastic vinyl smelling covers all computers used. Thats a boat-anchor museum piece there. i do have a dell inspiron p3/750 laptop somewhere. it will works if i were to find another drive and plug it all in.