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  1. Gigabyte are darn good boards as well. really should rephrase it to 'Anything BUT AsRock" lol
  2. Not everyone can afford Intel bubbaand I all ways Choose Gigabyte over MSI. Had a bad experiences with MSI on 3 occasions What does that mean? i5 3570k beast CPU for gaming only 210$. Best AMD chip 200$ I dont get what part of that people cant afford. You don't need a i7 or I7 EE for top end gaming as 98% of games see no notable improvement over the i5. I know alot of ole AMD Diehards still think of Intel chips to be 500+$ when Intel pops into their heads. I5 2500k/3570k (210-230$), i7 2600k/3770k (310-330$). Unless you are talking about the X79 chips that can run up to 1k$. but EE chips only pertain to power users/ extreme enthusiasts that can already foot that kind of bill. if that's your calling, I think even I would go with the 8320/8350 over the 3960x ect.
  3. haha, I struggled with my i5 build for 2 weeks. Fighting a bad driver and a possible memory defect on the GTX 660Ti (as observed by 40k errors during OCCT gpu mem test run). Too lazy to RMA it as that is always a process in itself. Updated Nvidia driver to the new 314 and as long as I dont OC the already factory OC'd 660Ti I have no issues anymore on the terms of game crashes ect. (Thank god) Cant really comment on the USB problems, Id cough that up to a defective case header/port for the USB's, so long as you've uninstalled and re installed the USB and chipset drivers and still issues. PCs are only great when they are not a pain in the wazoo. Edit: Is your CPU OC'd? Im guessing that it is, seeing that its a "K" variant. BSOD in games can be caused by not enough vcore or too much heat.
  4. Re-Solder it. Ive had that problem on a few laptops in my shop. You can reuse the stock plug, 9/10 times the solder is worn/broke and just needs a touch up
  5. For Radeon cards Sapphire is the best bet. Ive also had good luck with some HIS cards. Nvidia you'll want EVGA (though they tend to run hotter and louder then other brands, but are rock solid), ASUS or MSi
  6. honestly instead of getting 1 single GTX 680, your better off getting 2 GTX 660's ( non TI version) same exact price for both ( Sometimes cheaper depending on sales and give-a-ways ect) as opposed to a single 680 and you get about 30% or more performance across the board with them in Sli compared to a single 680. As shown in multiple comparisons and benchmarks. Little Example: 2 of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660 compared to one of this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121665 obviously I used ASUS as a brand, but same goes for all Nvidia vendors
  7. I would have to agree, my secondary PC behind me is an i5 3570k with the Asus DirectCU II GtX 660Ti on a 27inch ASUS 1080p monitor. It averages between 100-115FPS on games like WoW, SWTOR, GTAIV. Crysis 2 with DX11/Highres packs installed it gets a smooth 70-80 FPS on ultra. Was going to throw a GTX 670 on that rig, now im glad I didnt as there's no point as its only a single monitor and non SLi
  8. looks more like the numbers a 780 should be putting up. Or is this just a fancy name for the gk110 780?
  9. Never trust any voltage reading from software. Boom, problem solved. OC'ing without a DMM is like playing Russian roulette. Good point. I monitor Voltages Via ROG Connect through my laptop thats connected on a pure hardware level to my Board
  10. Agreed. Ive had the worst luck with anything ASRock. Grab a Gigabyte/Asus board instead. You'll thank later.
  11. VirtualBox..Hands down. Also has the best Hardware Acceleration support. I use it to VM windows 7 for gaming. I run Debian 24/7
  12. Have that same problem with my i5's Maximus V Formula board. Except somewhat opposite. With that one, the rear I/O USB3's dont work and Device Manger in windows shows errors. Despite fact I've downloaded the latest USB 3 Drivers off Asus site. I just disabled them in BIOS and called it a day. However the usb 3 ports on my case that are connected to the usb 3 header on board work perfectly..
  13. Nvidia just released 314.7 stable driver
  14. Water does displace heat better than air, but design also plays a big role. Fact that you're only seeing a minor decrease in temps when switching to a H100 from a D14 proofs that. At its current state, AIO water coolers just ain't worth the money compared to high-end air coolers IMHO. Exactly, Ill never go back to pre-built closed loop systems. Not worth the price for only 3-4 degrees
  15. YES!! 310.9 is a horrible driver across the board. This same issue is on almost all forums atm. Ive struggled with a new i5 3570k build for 1 1/2 weeks before I realized it was a damn driver issue. use the 313 Beta, roll it back to one of the 306 drivers or your older 310.7 one that worked for you. Make sure to uninstall driver in Safe Mode as well as use Driver Sweeper at same time.
  16. GTX 660 Ti is best bang for the buck atm. Honestly, If you haven't upgraded yet then hold off! new cards about to come out and leaked performance tests have the mid-range AMD 8xxx cards performing around the GTX 670s. Results are not validated but still something to keep an eye out for. Nvidia no doubt will be followed right behind with their Kepler refreshes right after.
  17. The H100 is a good cooler, used it on a good amount of builds. However ive found the Xigamatek Dark Knight II ceramic cooler to only be 3-4 degrees warmer under the hardest of OCs. 50$ compared to 110+$ and only a difference of 3-4C. Case may play a contributing factor to my results as I tested it against my H100, H80i, Noctua D14 and 212 EVO to surprising outcomes. Case was HAFX/932 Advanced. I stopped buying the closed water loops altogether once I found that DK. Unless you need that few extra degrees to make your system stable at your OC then get the H100, but then again if only a variance of a few degrees makes your system unstable, then it was never really stable to begin with. The only 2 water coolers used in my tests was the H100/H80i and H80i was only 1-2c cooler, D14 was 5-6c Warmer. Room temp was 68-71F Water displaces heat better then air (think jumping in a 32 degree pond as opposed to standing outside in 32 degree air temp). So no matter how good the air cooler is, high end closed loop water systems will still perform better in most cases. I was just stunned at how well that darn air cooler performed!
  18. I know this dosent go with the OP, but didnt we see a 24 phase Mobo few years back? I vaugley remember looking at the layout, its was ridiculous ive noticed over the years phase count is going back down. Looks like its more about quality of the phases as opposed to the quantity? That on top of better PCB layout and routing.
  19. Actually, IB is a much better OCer then SB under extreme conditions like LN2 ect. SB suffered emensley from the "Cold Bug". But yes, for a normal OCing, the IB will give you hell I had loads of fun tinkering with my ole 2600k then I ever did with the 3770k. IB just seems to be too finicky
  20. I wouldn't sweat it, Only mint 3570k's will run 4.8+ on any reasonable Vcore. Personally, I wouldn't feel comfortable running the 3570k at 1.5v for any length of time, but hey you bought it its yours to do what you will If you can hit 4.5-4.6 with less then 1.3v then you have a good chip. I was lucky I assume as mine will hit [email protected] 1.24 with minimal UEFI tinkering. You never know how good a chip ull get. ive heard some people only hitting 4.6 with 1.4v and a few people validated 4.6 with only 1.21v. if you start having a temp issue, look into deliding it with a quality TIM like AC5. I had to do it with my 3770k but not my 3570k.
  21. Ill have to agree with most posters here. I would also reflash BIOS to latest version. I also wouldn't rule out a unruly driver as to the cause. uninstall all essential drivers like Video, Audio and Chipset ect via safe mode. Run Driver-sweeper while still in Safe Mode. Reboot and re-install all drivers to newest versions preferably Win8 versions of the driver via Motherboard Manuf. Site. ive noticed on my VM Win 8 trial runs I had some issues with non W8 drivers that I didn't know where running causing stability problems. It wasn't overclocked at the time, but i wouldn't put past a OC irritating the issue even if Win8 runs fine at bios stock settings.
  22. prime 95 is for some reason easy on the cores in terms of stressing, occt makes my cpu hotter then prime does so thats why i reccommend it. [email protected] is a way better choice then 5ghz @1.37, that 200mhz wont be that much of a difference in real world perfomances and the 10c shaved off will be a life saver for your cpu, the cooler it runs the longer it lives, and you want that sucker to live as long as possible right i'd say 4.8ghz on those settings is good for 24/7, so you are basically ready to go Want to try this on my 3570k sub build. So your saying to use his setting just change 1.37 to 1.3v on the Vcore? How long is this CPU estimated to last at 1.3v at 24/7 so long as temps are within reason? 2-3 years atleast? My room never goes above 75F Right now im at 4.6 @1.24 70c max. Basically I just used my 3770k main rig settings since both chips are similar and Im running both on same mobo (siggy at bottom)
  23. Nice graph. The 8350 beat out the 3570k, but also note the Amd chip was sporting 4 top end gfx cards as opposed to the 3570k's 3x gtx 670s errr, notice how many quad SLI 680 and 690's with superclocked 3930's/3960's it's on top of. Of course, AMD's cards always scaled better once you got into tri/quad setups. At least in my experience anyway uh-huh....get the 2500. I have no idea what point that was ....wait for it...trying to make. The guys above me, and for that matter below, are all running 1.3-1.4. vrm squealing 1300+Core.(I talk to them) I have not even touched the volatge yet having them stacked on top of each other on air.This will however change after tomorrow. when I get to do the same. You still have not tried to explain the the other link AI put up there beating a 3960 + quad 680's by a healthy sum. Sorry guy but your canned rehtoric is just overplayed.whenever an AQMD does well , there is always some crafted explanation. Wrong again. it comes in very nicely for gaming at 5760 x 1080. You would be surprised how many games take advantage of more than four cores. I have a file full of CPU/GPU use graphs benchmarking. i wasn't talking about multi monitor gaming as only Enthusiast gamers/power users run that kind of setup. Most gamers even hardcore gamers still only run 1 screen. Thats what that post was referring to, the "Mainstream" Yes, I know the benefits and reasons for having a setup like yours to do what you want at ridiculous resolutions. I also know that there are games that take advantage of more then 4 cores. BUT, A 8350/3570k/3770k pair with 2 good gfx cards in sli/crossfire is more then enough for the "mainstream" gamer/pc user to achieve 70+ FPS in all modern games ATM. I dont disagree with that at all. I chimed in because the 8350 gets disregarded out of hand most of the time and there is a lot if disinformation about it. Good luck with whatever you decide on. Agreed. I also recommend Vishera just as much as IB to my customers, just depends on what kind of computing they will be doing. I also run a similar res of 4k ( not quite as high, as Nvidia or atleast my cards wont hit 5700) across my 3 27" Asus monitors. I get a happy 70+ in all titles with my 680s in SLi, but im not out to throw big numbers on a benchmark, just wanted a nice smooth high res multi monitor setup. I will say AMD has Nvidia beat by leaps and bounds in their multi monitor support.
  24. Im not putting AMD down in anyway. I respect thier CPUs and build AMD rigs as well. I dont know why your attacking me in the way you are. I never saw anyone else post with pics, so why are you assuming that I have. ive built many Intel and AMD rigs in my years of building. ive tested them against each other in REAL WORLD applications not just synthetic benchmarks and 9/10 times the Intel pc wins. When it comes to gaming it boils down to the GPUs, what games it is and what brands the GPUs are from.
  25. Nice graph. The 8350 beat out the 3570k, but also note the Amd chip was sporting 4 top end gfx cards as opposed to the 3570k's 3x gtx 670s errr, notice how many quad SLI 680 and 690's with superclocked 3930's/3960's it's on top of. Of course, AMD's cards always scaled better once you got into tri/quad setups. At least in my experience anyway uh-huh....get the 2500. I have no idea what point that was ....wait for it...trying to make. The guys above me, and for that matter below, are all running 1.3-1.4. vrm squealing 1300+Core.(I talk to them) I have not even touched the volatge yet having them stacked on top of each other on air.This will however change after tomorrow. when I get to do the same. You still have not tried to explain the the other link AI put up there beating a 3960 + quad 680's by a healthy sum. Sorry guy but your canned rehtoric is just overplayed.whenever an AQMD does well , there is always some crafted explanation. Wrong again. it comes in very nicely for gaming at 5760 x 1080. You would be surprised how many games take advantage of more than four cores. I have a file full of CPU/GPU use graphs benchmarking. i wasn't talking about multi monitor gaming as only Enthusiast gamers/power users run that kind of setup. Most gamers even hardcore gamers still only run 1 screen. Thats what that post was referring to, the "Mainstream" Yes, I know the benefits and reasons for having a setup like yours to do what you want at ridiculous resolutions. I also know that there are games that take advantage of more then 4 cores. BUT, A 8350/3570k/3770k pair with 2 good gfx cards in sli/crossfire is more then enough for the "mainstream" gamer/pc user to achieve 70+ FPS in all modern games ATM.
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