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  1. Stash your computer(s) in a lockable supply closet at work :evilgrin:


    All kidding aside, the 670 is fairly light on power usage and with the 660 right around the corner (hopefully), that card should be an even better buy for efficiency.

  2. Personally I'd go with 12Gb of memory at the higher memory and cpu frequency. I really can't see you doing much that would require more than 12Gb of memory. But I do contest your claim that the X58 chipset is junk :)


    I've owned several x58 based boards and for the most part they were good to great. I don't think it's a chipset problem as much as the integrated memory controller on the cpu. In my experience high memory clocks or high memory capacities/densities always required a bump in the QPI/VTT voltage and sometimes IOH voltage too.


    Further complicated in your situation by the miss-matched SPD info the BIOS is reading from your two different memory kits. You can set the primary timings and adjust the voltage in an attempt to get both kits to play pretty, but there are still all of those secondary memory settings that the BIOS is attempting to set.


    Heck, I found in almost 100% of the cases if I went from 6Gb to even 12Gb on an i7 9X series processor that I had to reduce my memory frequency, or cpu speed in order to maintain the stability of my overclock. To my knowledge the only users not affected as much by this were those running extreme versions of the socket 1366 processors. Guess they had better memory controllers than the vanilla i7 9X series processors but that is only speculation on my part.

    +1 It took me a long time to get my 12gb (6x2gb) working properly with my 930 at 4.0ghz. Eventually though, I just ended up boosting the QPI, VTT, and IOH voltages a bit. I can't remember off the top of my head what I set them to, but I will let you know if I remember when I get home. I know I had my IOH voltage at 1.24-1.3 but that was more so due to what I though was a PCI-E vdroop problem.

  3. Ran it with increased voltages, no changes. Performed clean driver installation, uninstalled all overclocking tools, rebooted, and it runs stock just fine. Clocks up to 700 mhz when necessary :doh:


    Re-installed latest Afterburner, clocked it up to 750mhz/1900mhz no problem (was too excited to confirm stability for more than 5 minutes). Anything over that and it downclocked itself.


    So now I'm thinking software, not hardware. Some sort of poor communication between the drivers and overclocking software.


    Edit: By turning off voltage control in Afterburner, I am able to get it to stay at the higher clocks. Why would turning on the voltage control be doing this? I am glad I finally isolated the issue though.

  4. That's the funny thing wevs, it wouldn't fit in the original slot with my small case and the HDDs in the way so I ended up putting it into the second x16 slot. Theoretically it should be the same, but you never know. I'm looking to get a larger case, so I may move it up to the first slot and see if it does the same thing.

  5. Mine is a dv9700 as well, and I have had it replaced twice due to bad graphics cards. Since my last replacement I just stopped doing anything stressful on it so that it will last longer. I will be curious to see how yours turns out.

  6. Some of you may remember this thread where I increased the IOH voltage and tried new drivers to remedy the problem where my GPU doesn't ramp up to the 3D clock speeds.


    Well, I can safely say that the problem is not the GPU, because I am now having the exact same issues with the GTX 480 I just put in my system. I will mess around with it a little more tonight when I get home, but for now suffice it to say I've tried just about everything to keep it stable. I say "just about" because the only thing I have not messed with yet is the IOH PCIE voltage in my BIOS. My current overclock is nothing outrageous: 800 core, 1900 memory at stock voltage.


    For completeness sake, I tried:

    • Cleanly re-installing the newest drivers
    • Switching from MSI Afterburner to EVGA Precision X for overclocking (Afterburner would not change the core voltage per GPU-Z)
    • Many restarts
    • Increasing IOH voltage to 1.26 from 1.2 (I will go up to 1.3 tonight)
    • Changed from adaptive to "prefer performance" in Nvidia control panel
    • Added my overclock settings to the "3D profile"
    • Backing down the overclock to near stock settings
    • Increasing GPU core voltage


    Any words of wisdom before I have at it again tonight? I'm at a loss.

  7. You are taking this issue very well. I am glad to see that you are not going on an endless rant about how you dislike the company that screwed you over, etc. Very professional :thumbsup:


    Anyway, if you keep pursuing the issue someone at DeepCool will give in to your requests. It just takes enough patience and verbal tact. In your case, you have a pretty strong case built up against them. I, for one, will be certain to stay away from DeepCool in the future.

  8. In my experience, more voltage equates to more stability. Yes, you will probably be able to get it higher with more voltage, just watch the temps. Some others may be able to provide some specific tweaks to AMD MBs that I am not familiar with though.

  9. Rainmeter is awesome. But I fail to see how any executable 3rd party program is any safer, or any less safe than desktop gadgets. Microsoft doesn't make any sense to me. I finally broke down last year and started using desktop gadgets and had a few that I really really liked and considered very helpful in my day to day. Quick Launch, Weather and Calendar. Pretty standard stuff really and all were downloaded from the Windows Gadget store.


    I still think it's a MS conspiracy. Cry wolf over desktop gadgets so they can prep everyone for their conspicuous absence in Windows 8.

    I agree with you wevs. At first I though it could be legitimate, but then I read that they would be left out of Windows 8. I may just continue using them, though Rainmeter does look awesome.

  10. Rainmeter is nice if you like having all that info available to you on the desktop. It can be configured to look pretty nice as well.

    Yes that is the program I was thinking of! Do you have any tips or favorite skins that you like to use? I'll have to play around with it more tonight when I get home.

  11. If you haven't heard, Microsoft is "temporarily" killing all sidebar and gadget applications due to the possibility of security exploits. This news saddens me greatly as I love my monitoring gadgets. Who knows how long Microsoft will leave gadgets under the rug...


    The question now is: what is your favorite alternative to Microsoft Gadgets? I've seen one in particular that I would love to try out, but can't remember the name of it for the life of me. Plus, I'm not sure it will work after one applies the Fixit described in the above article.

  12. In this situation the Nvidia vs AMD argument is irrelevant since the OP is not doing a multi monitor display or 3D. Right now, the best way for the OP to get the highest FPS count he can while still affording an SSD is by putting two 7770s in crossfire.

    If that is what matter to the OP, then I agree. I just hesitate to trust AMD's drivers, especially in multi-card setups.

  13. Well crossfire has gotten a lot easier with the 7000 series cards though. You are actually the second person who has told me to avoid recommending crossfire, yet when I put both my 7770s in crossfire I followed an online guide and in 10 minutes I had everything working.


    For new builders, crossfire is a lot easier because you don't have to go through the pain of having to unistall the old drivers.


    Plus, the GTX 570 should probably be running on a 600watt PSU rather than a 500 watt one. The two amd 7770s should fit right into a 500 watt PSU.

    Wow I can't believe both cards would run on a 500watt PSU. However, I personally would still go with Nvidia, and that's why I recommended PSUs that were over 600watts. I just like the extra added goodies that come with an Nvidia card.

  14. It is was low until I realize I double counted the OS in the cost. :doh: :doh: :doh: :doh: My bad


    I now recommend that you switch the mobo to the asrock extreme 4 z77 mobo and get a second AMD 7770 for SLI and a vertex 4 SSD.


    That would still break your budget a little but it would be a much faster system.

    If it's his first build, I would not recommend messing with Crossfire yet. Depending on how much extra is left over from the rest of the system, I would go with one of these or one of these.

  15. NEA - not sure if it is causing the issue, but open up the nVidia control panel.


    Click "Manage 3D Settings"

    Scroll down to Power Management Mode - default value is "Adaptive" change the setting to "Prefer Maximum Performance"


    If you're running Vista or Windows 7 open up the Power Control Panel and change power settings from Balanced to High Performance. Save changes, reboot and check gpu frequency again.

    +1 This is the first thing I tried, and it makes perfect sense (though sadly it didn't work for me).

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