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  1. Yea the 350d is the largest i can go for the space where it is being put, otherwise i would go smaller.


    Thank you for answering about the PSU output. But i went to 750w with the upgrade of the CPU mITX to mATX and a bit more powerful GPU to be safe.

  2. I dont think the 350d looks all that bad to be honest. The main reason is for the excess fan slots as watercooling is out of the question. Also the dimensions are fine as i measured the spot in the desk where it will be hidden and theres plenty of room left.

  3. I've been looking for some deals on the 780 but have yet to find one cheap enough to be worth it. Ill start looking for the Workstaion cards on craigslist then if I can find one for that good of a deal ill buy it but it seems unlikely in the time i have to purchase it.


    I also wound up changing the case http://www.corsair.com/en-us/obsidian-series-350d-micro-atx-pc-case for size and the cooling options it posses. plus its cheaper.


    In a couple of days ill repost the new build after i finish researching compatibillity and components.

  4. 1. You won't be able to put 4x4GB memory on an m-iTX board. You're limited to 2 RAM slots. You can get 2x8GB memory for 16GB.


    2. If you're not going for a smaller case, you can get the m-ATX version of the BitFenix Prodigy case. They're exactly the same size. That means you can get a m-ATX motherboard which will have 4 DIMM slots and more PCIE slots.


    3. Why would you need a 4TB drive if you already setup a 12GB disk array? Just have her store her files in the array. You can set her older computer as a dedicated NAS.


    4. Going with an i7 with Hyperthreading will benefit her for her uses in 3D editing, photoshop, and video encoding.


    5. Since she's not gaming, why not get her a workstation graphics card? Also throw in a Spyder 3 Elite (or Spyder 4 Elite) for color calibration on her monitors.


    6. You can also watercool the rig if she appreciates working in a quiet environment. A Corsair 350D is also a m-ATX case, but the same size as the BitFenix Prodigy, and is a little easier to watercool.


    1. Not relevant as i had 2x8GB to begin with.

    2.I have decided to end up going with the mATX afterall since the cases are the same size and it adds more fans.

    3.To have a drive in the system itself for dump mainly, as the array is pretty much just a server and filing case.

    4.I agree i have decided to switch to a xeon e3.

    5. the GTX770 will be more than enoguh to suffice in this end, I don't know if your familar with the worstation GPU market; but it is quite expensive and really only needed for hardcore graphic editing, also i did put a budget in the OP(which the more i read your comment seems you didn't read at all)

    6. No go for various reasons.



    I have ended up switching to 4x4GB ram and a MATX case and MB, with the Xeon E3 CPU Thankyou for the input.




    Plz dont HiJack the thread also i hope a ban comes your way soon.

  5. ok so in regards to the NZXT gamma chasis everyone is including if you would look at my sig you will see that is the case i am currently using as well as having every fan slot used(grand total of 8) so i am well aware of how could the case is but as money is a problem with this build the case is going to have to fall last in priority.


    Now to address the PSU, Again i am well aware that you never skimp on the PSU as i wasn't truly skimping on the PSU and actually took the time to read the reviews and go to the manufacturers website to look at it before adding it in the cart. So the only reason you all looked at it and said skimping was because of the very low price and because you had never heard of the manufacturer which shows just how much you have been influenced by the mass media and big name companies( a true shame). But now everything in the build looks good to me except the PSU which the only reasons i am backtracking on it is because of all of you even though i have seen the make model and manufacturers page as well as read the reviews to see that even if its not the best PSU it is a very capable one. But even though this will effectively bring me over the 450$ mark and I will have to consolidate with my friend over it the new PSU i have selected is definitely better

    PSU $40


    now in regards to the previous post his old HDD is completely full which is why i am adding a new one to the build, and the only reason we are keeping his old one is due to the OS being on it.


    So here is the build


    Case $20

    HD $50

    PSU $40

    GPU $140

    RAM $20

    MB $40

    CPU $125





    Let me know what you think but this is pretty much finalized. Also thanks to everyone for helping even though i didn't go with any ones build exactly they influenced what i picked.


    P.S. as it seems no one looked at the last post on the first page my friend will not being doing the mail in rebates he is paying for this rig out of pocket and so he doesn't have the money to do the mail in rebates.

  6. Case








    $495 shipped with free trial free shipping, promo codes and $45 in rebates = $450

    There is even a shell shocker deal in there :P

    This is a nice rig and it influenced my choices in my next time around.

    This is what i have now.

    Case $20

    HD $50

    GPU $140

    PSU $28

    RAM $20

    MB $40

    CPU $125

    Total- $423


    As i was trying to cut back on money and i succeeded in doing so i took a look at your post then started spending money again so now I'm at 4$ more than the start when i was at 20$ less. Let me know what you think now.(no longer applies)


    Also the PSU is the only place i can find to keep this rig as cheap as it is so their is a very low chance i will be changing it.

  7. Ok as I'm not new to building rigs nor the hardware involved in doing so, the main reason i am creating this thread is because as i grow older the less time i have to spend researching hardware and even new rigs. So a friends asked me to put together a rig for him that would be capable of running skyrim at moderate levels and able to run future games if even not on high or normal settings.


    Unfortunately the hard part comes in at he only wants to spend 450$ max. He doesn't wish to go over that price unless reason for doing so is dramatic.


    He already has a cd burner/reader and a monitor, his case is garbage and is 8 years old so we won't be able to use it. He has an old HD so he wont need a very big new one. Besides that he needs everything new.


    This is what i have scrapped together in just a few hours, I am aware at some of the hardware not being the best but as this was in a rush, that is why I'm creating this thread to get feedback.


    Case- Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 40$

    PSU- hec Orion XPOWER585 585W ATX12V 2.01 Power Supply 25$

    CPU- AMD Phenom II X4 830 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDX830WFK4DGM 90$

    MB- BIOSTAR A780L3B AM3 AMD 760G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard 50$

    RAM- G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9S-4GBRL 23$

    HD- Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JB 250GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache IDE Ultra ATA100 / ATA-6 3.5" Hard Drive -Bare Drive 53$

    GPU- HIS H685FN1GD Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity 145$


    Total- 426$


    As for only using newegg i really don't have a preference for sites being used but fry's is out of the question. Also this is for America so no international sites or shipping please.


    Also the old HD he is using will have windows xp on it so if some money can be saved and still wind up with a rig capable of what he needs to buy a better operating system that would be for the best.

    Now my main points of concern are lying with the MB and PSU, i realize due to the budget some things needed to be cut back on and i did it in the two places you really shouldn't do it in, but based on the reviews i saw on newegg for the products and again due to time restraints i thought them rather capable.

    I would like to buy the parts by the end of the week at the latest but i am willing to wait to get an even better deal and so that the rig will be scrutinized by other enthusiasts. Feedback will be appreciated.

  8. Thank you for all the replies. I deffintely will not be able to make use of the sale for cyber Monday. But i really don't care if it is led back lit or not. I do like the samsung MD picked out really nice indeed. Also i am looking at the dells and i have to say i might just use a crt or a cheap lcd i have unitl i can afford the 24" ultra sharp.

  9. All right. So i am creating a new build and i have everything but a monitor. I wish to get a new one for this build. The video card is going to be a ATI 6850.


    So what i am looking for is a 22"-30" monitor with a resolution between 1920-1080 - 2560-1600. I really only have around 300$-400$ to mess around with. I was looking at an IPS monitor but for the price they are quite restrictive.


    So my main uses are really just gaming with the occasional 3d mapping, photo editing, and video editing. But mainly Gaming. So i would like to know what you would suggest getting.


    Also i would like to have a static contrast 1,000:1 and at least 6ms or lower. I would like to have a decent monitor.


    Thanks in advance

    (if you need to know any more specifics plz just ask, whatever will help you guys help me.)

    All right this is what i found. Tell me what you think

  10. Looks good, Im gonna go ahead and say you probably wont need two side fans. once you puta big cooler into the case. That side fan near the top likely wont be usable anymore due to clearance. The case is a good size, but its not THAT big lol.


    The front fan you picked, is a 120mmX38mm fan. I doubt this will fit in the front of the case, and case fans especially in the front dont have very much extra room for that. Also you know Ultrakaze fans are absurdly loud right? Alota air is moved. But i dont think you need that much. I dont think the case fits any 140mm fans either. It says in the details 5 additional 120mm fans. You really only need 3 extra though... one front, id prefer to give it some color as thats always fun. one top, and one side. You really wont need more than that. This will give you 2 intake and 2 exhaust for nice even air flow. And wont block any future heat sink options. You could do another one on the top if you really want, but i dont think it will serve much of a purpose to be honest. And one day you really gotta get a good cooler and overclock that bad boy hex-core. It overclocks really well. Pretty much every chip its 4.0Ghz with little effort. When that time comes, come back and we can help ya pick a cooler and overclock it! Looks good after you fix the fan issues.

    All right fixed it but for the time being a heat sink isn't going to come until maybe march so i'm gonna stick with the extra fans also i went to the website and found the case and it said top can fit 2 120/140mm fans.

    But thanks for the help i appreciate it a lot. Now just need to buy this bad boy.

  11. All right so Mercury i have taken your build and refined it. Luckily i was talking to my parents and they agreed to put in 500$ dollars so i only have to put in around 400$ as a Christmas gift so i can buy my car.

    So here is what i have.









    Top Fans(2)

    Side/Front Fans(3)

    MB/CPU combo

    Total 911.21$ after rebate 861.21$

    So i went with the 6850 over the 5770 used my RAM got rid of your recommended fan and added enough to stock the case and have a really good airflow going. I will down the road add a heatsink to the cpu. Everything else is the same.


    Tell me what you think.

    (Also my mom is an affiliate of Newegg so she can take off a pretty big percent as well whenever the time comes.)

  12. Ah yes, the AMD 6850 is a MUCH better buy. But i couldnt find a way to sneak a 6850 under the $700 Budget.


    My Issue with nVidia on AMD chipsets it the lack of SLI support. Sure you can slap on nvidia card into, but when next year or 2 years down the line come and you think... oh man, i cant play on ultra settings anymore without major lag. With SLI or Crossfire, you just buy a what would then be a VERY cheap version of the same card you already have and then BAM your back in action for another year or two. If you got nVidia on an AMD chipset, you lose that option. No SLI. Thats the poor decision. And as i mentioned there is nforce chipsets on some AMD boards that allow for the use of SLI, but ive never had a good experience with nForce chipsets, so to me, thats not an option.


    I agree with you, when you disagree with me, saying that an Intel option wouldn't be an option. But if he REALLY wants to have the ability to use SLI in the future, in my eyes, its the only option.



    Also to the OP, why did you change your mind about the Corsair PSU??? For the price after MIR it was pretty much the best option ever!

    I was thinking for down the road the ability to sli would need more than the power supply could handle and still have room to be safe. I am looking over your previous posted hardware and i will say you did an excellent job i will be going with ATi now because i was not aware of the issues facing sli with amd chipsets so thank you for bringing that to my attention. I am liking the majority of what you have picked out only problem is maybe try and help find a cheaper CPU and MB to get a better graphics if not i have 4 grand saved up but in my op like i said i am trying to buy a car when the accident occurred screwing me over. so if it isn't going to work i will definitely put more money into this and just wait on the car until January/February.


    Also for the Ram i am looking at the ones you picked out and the timings are way worse so from what my friends tell me the timings are more important than the Mhz, so do you know if those will overclock nicely to tighten the timings considerably or not. Also i was wondering if you looked over the changes i made to the OP with the new ram i added there?


    Thanks BTW

  13. Okay problem one, the CPU you listed is the AM2 version and will not work on an AM3 board, you need the 945. Next I would avoid the G.Skill ARM personally. I have had a lot of issues with it since they started the Ripjaw series. I have found that Corsair, Kingston or Crucial work everytime and are rock solid. Finally while WoW and EVE can be played with the intergrated card, EVE is limited to basically mining as combat drives the intergrated to the ground, the others you listed cannot. There are some solid offerings of GTS450 based cards for around $100. With some tweaking such as dropping the big heatsink and getting a CPU with one stock, maybe cutting back on the case to an Antec Three Hundred, you should be able to make everything fit.


    If you are bound and determined to get a quad at that price point you could go with an Athlon II which is a solid chip. You could also get a Phenom II X2 and see if it will unlock.

    All right i changed out the CPU, PSU, ram, and MB.


    And for the gpu i might be able to buy one now less than 270$. Wich one should i be looking at the GTX 460 or 470 for the games i play and i also have a 1900x1080 Monitor i use. So plz hurry and comment like i said in first post i need to purchase asap with the deals going on. thanks


    Ok i researched a little and i am stuck between 2 cards the GTX 460 and the 470 superclocked from EVGA and there is a 60 dollar price gap between them, which is better or should i get?

    GTX 470

    GTX 460

  14. All right my old computer which is 2-3 years old has recently, well blown up i guess you could say. In an unfortunate accident involving lots of mountain dew. I have checked the few existing warranties i had left on it and they are not covered. So seeing as i was trying to save my money for a new car i only have around 700$ i can spare for a new machine.


    The games that i play are WOW, SC2, Diablo 3(whenever it is out), EVE, and alot of FPS. Now i know i will not have a great machine but later on next year i will be able to upgrade it thoroughly. I know this machine will not be able to play all my games and the one that can play will be on low settings.


    So a question i need answered because i think i do not have enough to also include a GPU in this first sytem, so are you able when using AMD cpus and MBs to use the integrated graphics for some low setting gaming and video usage?


    Here is what i have so far











    (Links double open for some reason???)

    Now plz do what you wish but do not go over 700$ Also if you can make it so i can also get a GPU and everything else less than 700$ than plz by all means go for it. Also i relay more on Nividia for graphics than ATI biased yes.

    (Also the OS , PSU, and CPU are on sale until the 30th so plz try to be fast on this like at least the 28th i will have to buy.)

    Thank you.


    All right links updated. Alot better stuff now.

  15. So true. I'm hoping AMD is playing games and they pull something like they did with the 4800/5800 series and introduce massively higher shader counts than anyone had hoped.

    Definitely i might as well wait for them to come out before i buy my new 5970 and see if i can get 2 for the price of one currently or just get a 6970 but i bet thats gonna be in the 1k range when it comes out dam. And i really was hoping to get a new card sooner oh well my 5850 can hold out at least 4 more months(i hope :( ) .

  16. Ok for my new build I am looking for a new pair of headphones to go with it i have a dedicated sound card but i am really not looking to get an amp.

    What it comes down to now is 4 pairs i have been looking at and reading reviews about.


    The first pair is the Sennheiser RS 180 my friend has a pair of wireless for gaming and i really liked the idea especially being able to get um from my desk and do things while still wearing my headphones. But i don't know if having wireless affects the sound quality at all or if there is a time delay for the sound to transfer.


    The second pair is also Sennheiser and its is the HD 280 Pro. I have heard so many good things about these headphones and i really like the look of them. I have never actually used them but just from the reviews about them i definitely am considering them.


    The third pair are the PC 350 Sennheiser i only choose these because i would definitely like to have a mic and i really don't know any good stand alone mics that you can attach to a pair of headphones and this is the only good pair i could find from Sennheiser. But all the reviews i see of them are mixed to very good or the worst Sennheiser product ever. So if any body has personal experience with these if you could say if they're worth it or not, it would be beyond helpful.


    And of course the last ones are the SteelSeries 7H. The reviews on them look very good and i have personal experience with the 5Hv2 and i fell in love with them. So if the 7H are better like they are suppose to be, then these headphones would be phenomenal. And plus the built in mic and all the extras like the retractable cord make these very attractable headphones and very promising.


    So if anyone has personal experience with any of these headphones i would really appreciate some input about them and if you like them or not or any other helpful information that you can give. Thanks in advance!


    Just realized knowing the soundcard might help don't really know but i have the Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series.

  17. If you want a pair of beast Headphones try the Sennheister HD 800 lol the best in the world a friend has them i played COD with them and OMG there is nothing better but then again the only down side is the price at $1,400. But you did say price wasn't a problem lol.

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