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  1. Thank you! I appreciate your advice.


    I just found some memory listed in QVL. Avexir Core series 2400 is the best choice for now.


    Buy may I ask you a little bit more about RAM?

    I saw that Trident Z RGB 3200 is listed in QVL. But it runs at 3200 MHz, is it going to be a problem?



    I guess it's identical as the one I want really bad: F4-3200C16D-16GTZR,


    I don't plan to OC the RAM for now. If I install ram sticks higher than 2400 (let's say 3200 or 3000 like the kit you used for review), is the motherboard going to downclock it automatically to 2133 or 2400? Or I have to tweak it manually or else I'm going to have a POST problem?


    Sorry, I have never tweaked a memory before since I'm using a laptop right now. Your expertise is highly appreciated.



  2. Hi,


    Please, I need your suggestion about my upcoming build next week.

    Since Phenom X era, I always prefer AMD for desktop to Intel. Main purposes are for 1080p gaming (medium-high gaming, not extreme), graphic works, multimedia, and multi-tasking. 

    And I won't be upgrading my PC yearly as I'm planning to keep it for at least 7 years or more.

    My upcoming build spec is as below:


    AMD Ryzen R7 1700X (already bought for US$ 388)

    AsRock X370 Taichi

    Sapphire RX480 Nitro 8GB 

    Be Quiet! Shadow Rock Slim (waiting AM4 Bracket from Be Quiet!)

    Crucial MX300 525GB

    Seagate Barracuda 2TB

    Seasonic X650 or XFX XTR650W (Identical price)

    Evolv ATX TG for the case


    +Deepcool RGB strip, and bitfenix alchemy custom cable, it cost USD 1700 in total.


    I don't live in US, so prices might not be the standard one, and yes it is expensive. 

    I do understand that 7700K is much much better for gaming compared to newly-born 1700X. But in my country both prices are the same (388 for 1700X and 390 for 7700K). I will overclock the 1700X a little to 3.8GHz. 

    Besides, X370 boards are cheaper compared to Z270 boards. and I believe 1700X is more future proof as 8C/16T will be mainstream for gaming from now on. Ryzen chips have significantly higher raw power compared to 7700K, I guess it's only matter of time until games can utilize all threads.

    I prefer get a powerful CPU (not LGA2011) so I can keep it for years and upgrade the graphic card only. And RX480 suffices my gaming need.


    Memory is missing from the list, and I need your expertise to help me choosing memory. I watched and read a lot of Ryzen reviews. All of them are saying that memory compatibility might be an issue with AM4 platform. Can someone provide me an easier explanation? Does it mean that currently existing DDR4 sticks are not all compatible with AM4? Do I need a very specific ram speed or brand or type for AM4? 

    I found a user guide and memory compatibility from AsRock for Taichi, 

    But I don't understand the compatibility guide on Specification -> Memory section. Also, there is QVL for memory, and I couldn't find any of them being sold here.


    My RAM choices are below (all 2x8GB):

    1. Klevv Cras PC17000 KM4C8GX2N-3000-1 (cheap, prefered)

    2. Geil Super Luce PC19200 GLW416GB2400C16DC (cheap, prefered)

    3. Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2A2666C16 B (less prefered, expensive, 2666 MHz compatibility concerns me)

    4. Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB KIT PC19200 (cheapest, prefered, based on Crucial website it says compatible with X370 Taichi, but not in QVL).


    And AM4 does not support XMP, does that mean all RAM with XMP will not work on AM4 platform? This whole RAM thing is confusing for me. I won't overclock or tweak the ram, I'll run it in stock.


    I hope you can help me with this matter. I understand AM4 is still very new, regardless I really want to build a stable system. And if you have any suggestion on the remaining parts, you are very welcome.


    Btw I am upgrading from i7 720QM 1.6GHz, 8GB DDR3, Ati Radeon HD 5870M 1GB.


    Thank you in advance

  3. Hey NikoDG..


    Personally, I would go for Coolermaster U3




    It has 3 removable fans which can be adjusted on hottest spots on your notebook, and up to 19". The SF19 is not that good based on the reviews I read compared to U3.. U3 is easy to clean, and you can mod the fan size up to 14inch.. I believe I read it somewhere about 14cm fan mod on U3. just google it.. :D


    I used thermaltake Massive 23LX for G73, but it didn't cool my laptop that much. Now I am using Notepal X3, I am very impressed with X3 performance..


    Overclock it under air conditioner (or in winter) with cooling pad will cool down the temperature. The notebook cooling pad is not that great for overclocking, it only 2-5 degrees Celcius cooler (w/o OC).

  4. So raid 0 is the best option with for adobe premiere? Maybe I am going to recommend him a OCZ Vertex 4 SSD 120GB... But sure I have to change the other option in order to not overlimit the budget... Just let's see if he can get a GTX570 and an SSD...


    Thank all for the reply and your suggestions... Hope we can make a solid build.... :)



  5. Where are you located op?


    So we can make some reccommendations based on the prices available to you


    Thanks for the reply..


    I am from Jakarta, Indonesia... The hardware prices here are more expensive than in newegg (I only know newegg as an online computer hardware store).... It is okay to use the newegg prices if you want.. the difference is not too far though... thanks..


    Do have a recommendation for me? :D



    very easy, it's simply a txt file in your adobe folder that said what card are supported. just add the cards name the list and all the functions are no longer greyed out. of course since adobe doesn't "officially" support them I could have issues but anything within the same series should be fine. I think they mainly want FEMI type card (for CUDA 3.0 and 4) + minimal of 1gb of vram. since most of those cards and quadros are femi based anything within those specs should work.


    The reason I said they couldnt keep up with final cut because for the longest time it would not edit natively in HD format. since from what i'm reading it's gotten a lot better, I have CS5.5 installed but i just use AE instead for conveniences sake. If Adobe continues to follow its trends of shoving everything into each program than Premire should be very close to After Effects these days. To me Premiere has been a dumb down version of After Effects, but that's just me.


    Thanks for the reply..


    wow, it is very easy... If he ended up taking the GTX560, I will try as you said... hope it works fine... Doesn't GTX560 Ti is fermi based architechture? If he have additional money, maybe I will refer him to GTX570 to make sure everything works fine... :D


    by the way, what processor you will recommend to me? 3820 or 3770K or 2700K? lol... still cannot decide it..


    no problem, each people has their own favorite software for editing and doing the other things... But indeed, sometimes premiere makes me sick because it cannot import AVI footage. Adobe should take care of it.. AVI is a very popular video format, why does adobe doesn't support it even the premiere has reach CS5 series? I have to convert it again in AE before I import it in premiere.. I have installed all of the codecs I know but nothing's working. Until now, that's the only problem I faced when I use premiere... Maybe you have more experiences in Premiere video editing than me...I don't do video editing a lot like you or my friend... :)

  6. Thank you all for the reply


    CPU: Here are your 3 options:

    1. SB-E with a 3930K, more cores/threads the better, but no Virtu Quick Sync (see my blog on details: http://computerhardwareupgrades.blogspot.com/2012/04/quick-test-using-virtu-quick-sync-with.html)

    2. IB with a 3770K, cheaper than a 3930K, allows the use of Virtu Quick Sync, but temperatures get hot.

    3. SB with a 2600K, cheaper cost than both of the above, also allows the use of Virtu Quick Sync. You can afford a better CPU cooler for higher overclocks.


    I recommend #3.


    Motherboard: Doesn't matter, I usually go for ASUS motherboards, then Gigabyte as a secondary option.


    Memory: Get two kits of the 2 x 4GB Samsung Extreme Low Voltage and overclock them.


    at first I recommend him a 3930K, but unfortunately, if I add 3930K to the list, the price will be over limit... So I choose 3820... Which one is better? 2600K, 3770K or 3820?

    thanks, I will check your blog... :D


    And he doesn't want an overclock at all on his computer...so I will not overclock it as he say...


    Premiere still sucks, adobe could never keep up with final cut , I suggest after effects being the best but I haven't used it since cs3. Back than it had all the features of premiere plus after effects billion of options. Now with cs6 I'm not so sure anymore so you'll have to read up on it. I can't see after effects getting worse, but i can see premiere getting better by adding more support because it almost didn't support any HD formats for a while. No cache support is mercury playback.


    For either one the more cuda cores the better so you have that right , also it loves VRAM to use as cache so if you have the option to go 2gb for a little bit more make sure you do it. Finally even if the card is not on abode supported list you can add it to a line in a text file and the card works like any supported one for mercury playback. Now I'd you don't want to to fiddle with that than you have to get a card on the list.




    Thanks for your information...


    Final cut is only available on Mac, so maybe Premiere is the best option here... lol.. I am using AE since CS4 to now (CS5) so I don't know the difference between the older one and the newer one.. We do special effect and motion graphic in AE, for video editing, of course we prefer Premiere to AE...but it is only my personal opinion... :D


    I did read about adding a graphic card name to a text file in adobe AE and Premiere somewhere out there... Check out this link, there is a list of nvidia graphic card that support adobe Premiere, and based on the list, the GTX560Ti with 384 CUDA cores has no problem with adobe Premiere...




    Do you think there is any possibilities that the GTX560Ti must be added to the list manually just as you said?




    Is there any chance you could get a GTX 580 off of ebay or something?


    hmm... I don't think so.... Buying something online is a hard thing to do in my country... and it is very risky.... We usually buy things like computer hardwares directly from the computer store, not from internet or ebay... And no discount off course.... :(

  7. HI OCC members,


    Yesterday my friend asked me to build him a new desktop computer for video editing.. His budget is under $1600.. Less is better....

    So, the specification is:


    CPU: Intel i7 3820 Sandy Bridge E / Intel i7 3770K Ivy Bridge?


    CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 210 Evo


    Motherboard: Intel DX79 SI / Asrock Z77 Extreme4 Gen 3?


    HDD: WD Caviar Black SATA III 1TB


    Memory: GSkill 16GB Dual channel PC12800 10D-16GBXL


    Graphic Card: eVGA GTX 560 Ti Superclock (He has no money to take the Quadro, so I choose the mid end graphic card with the largest amount of CUDA cores)


    Casing: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced / CM Storm Enforcer (here, both prices are the same)


    PSU: Xigmatek Centauro 700W Modular (is this a good PSU?)


    Monitor: LG IPS 225V



    And now the question is:

    CPU question:

    After reading so many reviews in the internet and some forums, the Ivy Bridge and Sandy Bridge E still confuse me.. I have read reviews about 3820 and 3770K. Yes, the 3770K has more OCing capabilities than 3820.. But he doesn't want overclocking...so it doesn't matter...

    Some people say that 3820 and 3770K are almost equal in gaming performance, but 3820 is better and faster in heavy multi threaded activity such as video editing, photo editing and rendering... 3770K is better in single threaded application than 3820.. The 3820 has x79 chipset which has larger memory bandwith.. is it worth enough for After Effects Rendering?


    So, he does video editing and rendering in After Effects and Premiere, which one is the best option?


    CPU Cooler:

    My friend wants to make sure that his computer will not overheat when rendering and editing, so I suggest him to use CM Hyper 212 Evo... Do you have any suggestion for the other CPU Cooler?


    *Feel free to post your opinion if you have a better suggestion for the hardware...






  8. How much your budget?



    Samsung S23A350H

    Samsung PX2370



    LG 23" IPS236V LED

    Asus PA246Q (around $600)


    if you are using it for gaming, just take the LCD LED monitors which have lower response time..P-IPS is lack of response time, but very good in color accuracy and viewing angle...




  9. Really, the only way a problem like that can be avoided is to back the data up as regularly as the importance of the data dictates. If you can't afford to lose more than a day's worth of data, back up every day. And do not back up to the same device as the original data is stored on. Best idea is to back it up to some online storage or to an external device, such as a flash drive or external hard drive. If you want to go an extra step with backups, back it up in more than one location as well, maybe alternating between two flash drives so that if something kills your hard drive and the backup drive, you still have your data in a third location.


    thanks for your reply, I have told her to backup her data regularly since that incident.. But I just want to know the cause, if the HDD is in problem, she can claim it for the warranty...



  10. Hi guys..


    I have a friend who owns an Asus N43SL for about 2 or 3 months, yeah, it is a very good notebook. She treat it well, and as long as I know, she didn't have any problem with it until a few days ago. She has a single HDD 640GB, 140GB is for C: (OS) and 500GB is for D: (Data). A few days ago, she found that all of her data in D: completely loss (free space 495GB of 495GB), recently, there was 20GB data there.


    This is what she told me how it happened:

    1. She bought a brand new flashdisk.

    2. She has a friend who own new Asus N55, (maybe about 1 week old). her friend ask him to copy a freeware game from her laptop via her new flashdisk.

    3. At first, when she was copying the game, it was said that the data had some error while copying, but she don't understand much about computer, so she ignored it.

    4. After copying, the D still healthy and had no problem.

    5. her friend gave back her flashdisk, and she wanted to copy some data to flashdisk. When she plugged in the flashdisk, and she open my computer, she found that the blue bar of her D was completely gone, so did her data inside.


    Lucky, some important college data could be recovered using EaseUs Data Recovery Wizard Free Edition. But some were completely loss, and cannot be recovered.

    and I had checked both of their laptop, there was no virus at all. And after that happened, her friend's N55 still working fine and had no issue at all with the data and performance. It was only D partition which was gone. The partition itself is healthy until now, no bad sectors.


    Do you guys have any idea what the root of the problem is? She is afraid of data loss anymore, because we have some important data for our project and college... I recommend her to save her data in C for a while, but it is not safe either....


    I want to know the cause so the problem can be avoided...this is the first time I see something like this...thanks




  11. The tripple chanel memory is marginally faser, but most importantly it means that you will have 6 ramslots instead of 4!

    I guess that 12GB could suffice ramwise, but if you are doing some serios work that ram could quickly get filled. If i where you i would fins some cheap 1333MHz and buy 6x4GB of it.


    The hexacore is marginally faster in heavily multithreaded apps, and marginally slower in more single threaded, so the performance should be about equal, though the hexacor wil draw some more power if that is an issue.


    To my recollection it is impossible to drive more than 2 monitors from nvidia cards, although i could be wrong (things changes fast sometimes), but if that is the case i would instead go for sli GTX560 (ti or non ti doesn't really matter) costa a little more, but will perform better, and support up to 4 screens (2 per card).


    Any Corsair AX/HX/TX 650+W Power supply should power it plenty, though more will get you more quiet and efficient regulation.


    You will see no benefit at all from buying a Sata 6GB/s drive over plain old SATA 2, but pay more for it, so i would recomment against it.


    Thanks... I am planning on overclock the CPU, and increase the bus speed... I can upgrade it later, so the 12GB is more than enough already for now... :)


    Actually, I have GTX560 in my mind, but I didn't think about SLI, that would be a good consideration...thanks..


    Oh my, I forgot, IVIYTH0S told me before when I was asking about my friend's computer here, the SATA III doesn't have any advantage over SATA II, except if I use SSD for it... Thanks for the reminder.. :P

  12. I would go with something other then this power supply Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775Watt.


    I would look for an 800 or better corsair, coolermaster or antec unit for the task.


    Only reson I say is I had a thermaltake 750 watt PSU that could not power a GTX 260 to save its life.


    Really? I'll change it... thank you for the feedback!... :)

  13. thanks for the reply all...


    So here's my take on this, i have seen a few benchmark testing on the i7 970 vs i7 2600k processors and it is a topic of great debate. From what i've seen, the i7 2600k can outperform the hexa core processor in the GAMING perspective but your system is more intended for video editing and in this aspect the i7 970 processors prevails over the i7 2600k but it is not by a great difference that one would expect for the price difference and hexa core. i personally recommend the i7 970 for your situation also because you plan on running more than one monitors. So all in all i think the hexa core is more suited for you but if you think the price difference is too much for only a small boost in performance then the i7 2600k is the option to go with.




    That link will help you in your decision as a comparison.



    Thanks for the link! The different is not too much significant compared to 2600k, but considering the multi threaded (4 extra thread) and program compatibility of hexa core in the future, 970 would be the best I think... the 970 price now is around 500$, almost the same as 960 in the past.. lol...


    From your list you seems to prefer the 970, so get the 970, not question of performance but more about reliability, Sandy Bridge is full of bugs, look at the post on many manufacturers forums, memory compatibility problems over and over. I see you list also an Asus 570. the ENGTX570 DCII/2DIS/1280MD5 , is the one you need, With this massive cooler , you can leave the card on auto, and it will probably never go over 50'C , I have the 580 big brother and on folding it go around 48-50 on auto setting. You can match it with a board like the Rampage III gene, rock solid with a price tag around $ 200.








    Actually, yes, I prefer the 970.... Indeed, I read many review of SB bugs, especially in memory compatibility, I am surprised that SB series have so many bugs.... -.-'


    Oh my, what a huge cooling for a GTX570... thanks..... :)



    I'm assuming whatever isn't linked has already been acquired??


    not yet, I am still planning and searching for the best part.. :D



    For your needs the 970 is the better way to go. You will have tri channel memory for more throughput and 12 threads that will render instead of the 4 or 8 suggested. The 2600K is a potent beast but dual channel memory and 8 threads just wont do the same amount of work in multi threaded applications. The higher clock speeds you can run on the 2600K are insane but more threads equal more work done in a shorter time frame. The only place you will see a benifit in gaming is at low resolutions if at all. If you play at higher resolutions with the eye candy turned up the GPU becomes the bottleneck not the CPU.

    I say get the 970 and complimenting hardware.


    Thanks... 970 seems the best... Actually, how big the different between the dual channel SB memory configuration and triple channel Gulftown memory configuration?



    Suddenly, this question came up to my mind while reading this thread.... Will it be an Intel SB X-series hexa core just like the 1st gen i7 (980x, 990x)? or the X series will be replaced by Ivy Bridge?

  14. Hi OCC...


    I am planning on a new desktop build... the main purpose is for Photoshop and After Effects (720p and 1080p editing for animation), 3D rendering in Maya and Max, digital drawing in high resolution, and gaming (not much, but I am quite a gamer).. I will overclock the processor...


    The question is, I have read a lot of review and comparison between 1155 and 1366 processor i-series (i7 2600k vs i7 970)... some people said that i7 2600k SB is good for gaming, and it almost outperform the 970 hexa core.. The i7 970 is good for rendering, encoding decoding, and heavy multi threaded processes. Some people said too, the 970 hexa core can perform higher than now in the future if there are more applications that support six core.. How can applications nowadays still doesn't support six core even the six core AMD and intel processors were released about 2/3 years ago? I just don't understand about it...


    For the GPU, I need the CUDA and PhysX from Nvidia... but I need it for gaming too...



    Intel Core i7 970 Hexa Core


    Cooling: Thermaltake Frio OCK



    EVGA X58 FTW3



    Kingston HyperX T1 Black Series 12GB (3 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600



    Western Digital Caviar Black SATA III 1TB 64MB


    SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227706


    GPU: Asus GTX570 1280MB (single GPU)


    PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower XT 775Watt.


    Case: Thermaltake Element V Nvidia Edition Full Tower.


    Any suggestion about this? thank you very much...




    EDIT: additional information: I am going to run 2 or 3 monitor at once....

  15. I am planning to replace my 10 years old Altec Lansing AVS300 speaker.. The speaker's bass is starting to make me dizzy...


    Usage is for gaming (surround), and music.. I want powerful Bass, but nice and clean treble, I don't want the bass dominating the treble.... My favorite music genre is J-Core (REDALiCE), instrumental, techno, soundtrack, and some slow music (the delgados, bon jovi, etc), but most of them the are instrumental..


    Soundcard: Soundblaster Audigy


    How about Edifier C1, is that a good speaker? I know nothing about speaker and audio hardware... :P


    If you have any suggestion..... :D




    Oh, and it is for my laptop...

  16. I am used to doing 3D modelling... It don't use so much RAM, mostly use GPU for display and CPU.. Your CPU will be under middle or heavy load, depends on how much polygon you have made, I opened many programs with me while modelling and the RAM Usage was still below 3.5GB.., and I agree, use NVIDIA instead Ati, my Ati didn't help me too much in modelling.. :(

  17. thats odd, i thought leadtek went out of business a few years ago and PNY is the only company to carry Quadros i thought. i never heard of anyone else since today.


    BUT! i'm wrong http://www.leadtek.com/eng/workstation_graphics/overview.asp?lineid=2&pronameid=578&check=f google why have you failed me!


    Leadtek is a good company, from what I read on the review.... so is PNY... LOL... :D where did you get the info?


    so only 2 companies who are carrying Quadros right now?


    Looks perfect to me!


    Also my friend wants to comment on your speakers

    0312sinbad.jpg"Great choice!"


    LOL...it made me laugh out loud... hahahahaha... LOL... :P Oh you will not want to comment on Simbadda for other hardware such as casing and power supply... The PSU can blow up your entire PC.... :P

  18. NVS is just the pro version of a card to display video, almost zero 3d support, not a good idea for After Effects and CUDA usage. as for starters you could do 8gb just make sure it's 2x4gb so you can upgrade if need be.


    you might considers the Quadro 600 or a Geforce 450. should be enough for most things.


    edit: just about any card you pick you'll have to do the Hack for CUDA support. Adobe doesn't even support most of quadros included mine.




    I also was messing with the settings yesterday and by default AE only uses 1 core for prerendering, WTF! just make sure you go to all the settings and crank things up. AE also only uses 4gb by default which is stupid on Adobe part not to have to set to max.


    I see... I suggest him for the Quadro 600 1GB 128bit DDR3.... And He agreed with it...


    Of course, I made it 2x4GB.. :)


    Thanks for the link! :) It is really helpful..


    And, I think it just has been decided, he is going to build it tomorrow.. The Final Complete specification is:


    i7 2600 3.4GHz

    MSI PH67 - C43 LGA 1155

    Patriot PSD3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 Memory.

    Leadtek Nvidia Quadro 600 1GB DDR3 128bit (The only brand available at the local store for the quadro is Leadtek)

    Corsair CX Builder 500Watt PSU

    WD Caviar Green SATA II 1.5TB HDD (I offered the caviar black series, but he prefers storage room to speed)

    Coolermaster CM 690 II Advanced

    Logitech MK520 Wireless Desktop (Mouse and Keyboard)

    Simbadda CST6300 2.1 Speaker (Yes, you will not know about this brand, this is a local brand, and a low-mid end speaker, good enough for listening music)

    TP Link TLWN951N Wireless PCI Card


    For all of you guys, thanks for your support here.. :) I appreciate it..





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