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  1. When I updated my BIOS on my Blood Iron T2RL, I actually had to clear it before it would post again. I thought I was screwed, and was about to call DFI and yell at them for a bad BIOS update lol. I dunno, try clearing it via the jumpers first, and if that fails, perhaps pull the battery for 1/2hr. Just feeding some ideas.
  2. I actually had a VERY similar problem with mine at first. After exhausting everything I could, I tried another drive I had XP on and it booted flawlessly all of a sudden. I ended up putting the other drive back in and reformatted. Problem solved. Probably not the answer you wanted , but might be a possibility.
  3. Ok a little update on the system. I got my AS5 installed, so my temps rose a lil bit. I backed the system down to 3.33GHz, untill the AS5 settles in. Good stable overclock I think. Here are the bechmarks: http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff11/ju...1/Benchmark.jpg So far so good I think. Once things cool down a bit more, I'll start my way ramping it up again. . Thanks all!
  4. To cool the processor I am using the waterblock (CL-W0010) that shipped with my Kandalf case from Thermaltake. I have am using Zalman thermal grease on it....though that will change once I find my AS5. At the moment I haven't touched the NB settings. On my RAM, just forced the 5-5-5-15 timings, 2.4v, and put it on the divider (266/667 if I remember right). Praz, Yeah I heard that about the PWM to....after I got the board . I tried to find any info on the board before buying and came up short. It's probably because most people are pretty set in the boards they have now, and why upset that. About the best I could find was a review a guy did on a forum that pushed the FSB up to 560MHz. It was a good review, but I would have liked to see others, most people that had "reviews" on it just had a link to that particular forum. But for the time being I have to say for a $130 board, it's slick. ***Update*** Got the processor rock'n' at 3.402. Minor jump in temps...2c on idle. Benchmarks to follow soon .
  5. Hey guys I am still a bit new to the forum ( posting anyway ) and figured I would post my results thus far with my new system, perhaps get some suggestions on higher clocks, and give some what of a base for what I have found on this board thus far (since I haven't seen alot). Here are the specs: DFI Blood Iron INF. P35-T2RL Intel Q6600 Rev. B3 @ 3303MHz - Idle 37c Full load 52c G.Skill DDR2 1066 @ DDR2 920 5-5-5-15 BFG OC 8800GTS 340mb @ 615MHz Core 923MHz RAM OCZ PowerStream 550watt PS Thermaltake Kandalf LCS water cooled case Here are the shots: GpuZ - (For the video card) http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff11/jubbin2001/GpuZ.jpg CpuZ http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff11/jubbin2001/CpuZ.jpg 3DMark06 @ 1024x768 http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff11/ju...01/3DMark06.jpg OCCT http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff11/jubbin2001/OCCT.jpg I do plan on trying to get the cpu higher, perhaps hitting between 3.5GHz - 3.6GHz. I know the B3 rev. doesn't help much, but since my temps are fairly good at this point, I want to see how far I can push. More Benchmarks to follow, just haven't had a lot of time for them. Comments, questions or concerns are welcome and encouraged. I look forward to hearing from everyone. Thanks guys!
  6. Indeed I agree with what you are saying. I am just looking at a worse case scenario, much like another guy I know who was running their A64 1.8 @ 2.6, but the only way for him to do it was with a 266 divider. I'll throw the 333 in there, and see what comes up. Thanks for the feed back and the ideas....I knew I could come here and get some great info . -Jubb out Ok Benchmark done, and yep you were right score of 100,714. Thanks for that. Well it was a fun ride while it lasted . Thanks for the discussion guys!!
  7. Ok so here are some new findings I have come accross. I decided to run my PC @ 2.608 with a 266 divider and running at 2.508 with a 1:1. 2.608 266 divider: Aquamark: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...rks/2.6_266.jpg CPUz: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B....6_266_CPUz.jpg http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...6_266_CPUz2.jpg Mem Bandwidth: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...m_Bandwidth.jpg 2.508 with 1:1 : Aquamark: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...rks/2.5_400.jpg CPUz: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B....5_400_CPUz.jpg http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...5_400_CPUz2.jpg Mem Bandwidth: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...m_Bandwidth.jpg Now I assure you that in no way were these images doctored or "switched". Each one was taken directly after the tests completed. Each test was completed in the same order: Memory bandwidth, CPUz, Aquamark. Looking at the results, the 2.508GHz nets close to a 5fps gain on the 2.6GHz. Now I know many of you are like "Yeah wow a whole 5fps...big deal" well it kinda is to me. Being the gamer at heart I want the highest fps count I can get outta my system, just like someone who does alot of encoding wants the fastest encode times they can get. I will not contest that using CPU intensive applications: 3D Rendering, video encoding, ect. you that this would be a good idea for you. On the contrary it's not. Those types of applications look for raw CPU power, and you need to feed that need, so the bandwidth thing pretty much slides to the rear. This post is all about, squeezing every last fps outta the system. 5fps doesn't sound like much when you look at it, but it can make a difference between having a game run steady at 33fps or a noticable 28fps difference. I know the human eye cannot see above 32fps...and standard US broadcasts for video are at 29.97fps. But I still would like to keep my 5fps....not to mention a little less stress on the old processor . I could care less if I can encode a dvd 45secs faster, or render a full screen image in 3DS MAX in 6sec flat. I don't do those, I game. I am not trying to turn this into a "My way is better to OC" post. This is really designed a a study into the new architecture of the 8800 series cards. I mentioned that in my first post that I knew the guide was old, and so this is more of a test with the newer hardware, just to see what if any differences may have gone un-noticed. I am in no way trying to disproved anything that Angry_Gamer was posting about, because as I found using a 7800GT, he is quite right ramping up the CPU gives you better gains with that card. With this card, maybe things are changing, and once multi-threading really hits these results will be totally off. I also can't help but wonder if this phenominon might just be a fluke in my rig. I do hope others that have these cards and OC their machines will atleast try it and post their results to see if there is indeed an established pattern here. That perhaps there is a point with these cards where the bandwidth makes more of a difference than their predecessors. I will be working with 3DMark06 later today, and see what those results net, and if they to mimic the Aquamark scores. As always i will post the results, and we can go from there. I also have plans for a Doom 3 bench as well as UT2004, and Fear. I figure if they are still good for the benchmarking of today, they are good enough for me. I dunno, this is all kinda fun for me, just to see the outcome . Also, the reasons I chose these clock speeds: many people can't hit a stable 3GHz on an OC with their hardware. There are alot of factors to get there. If you are one of the ppl who can, great, got an 8800 to benchmark on your highest 1:1 you can get vs a 3GHz with a 266 divider ? I'd love to see the results!! For me, the best I have gotten: my board will post with a 3.003GHz, yet will not boot to XP....on any memory dividers/timings. That brings me to my other reason for the benchmark: to see if the new RAM I am getting may alleviate that problem....in which case the benchmarks will start all over. 2.4-2.6GHzish seems to be the norm for standard air-cooled systems on an OC. I have a bud that runs his Optron 165 @ 2.6, and that's all he can get...so really I figure its a safe generic range. I can't benchmark a theoretical 3GHz on my machine, but I can benchmark all the way up to 2.6 easily and quite stable, so that's why I am working within those ranges. Thanks all!! -Jubb out
  8. Hey all. I am new to the forums, but have read quite a bit here. One thing that interested me was one of the over-clocking posts (now a sticky) by Angry_Games (yes it is over a year now, I realize that) about memory bandwidth no affecting the outcome of your benchmarks/system performance. Well me being a gamer (and a broke one at that) I decided to really try and look at this. What I found was rather….interesting shall we say. In no way do am I contradicting the previous post, but perhaps suggesting a revamp may be in order. Right now this is just a preliminary finding, and I will be updating as more benchmarks are run. As we know the 8800 GPU has been taking the world by storm. In the rush for the best gaming experience, Vista being released, and the promise of grand things from DX10, people have been upgrading in preparation for games like: Crysis and UT3. I am one of those people. I can’t really afford spending $700 on a GTX, and the difference between the 640mb and 320mb versions of the GS really didn’t seem that big of a deal to me so I went with the 320mb version. I figure by the time I see the benefit of the 640mb there will be something better anyway….it always seems to work that way. In my preliminary findings it would seem that these cards are directly affected on how it uses your RAM Memory bandwidth. On to my system. My current specs are as follows: Asus A8N-SLI Premium OCZ 550 PSU AMD A64 x2 4400+ @ 2.684 2GB (4x512) Mushkin Enhanced Performance PC3200 3-3-3-5 BFG Tech 8800GS OC 1x WD Caviar 80gig Ultra ATA-100 1x WD Caviar 240gig Ultra ATA-100 (YES I still rock IDE, since, it has been proven that no FPS jump can be attributed to SATA in any RAID configuration at this time. The performance you get from running SATA in RAID 0 is faster load times…that’s about it. I still have plenty of space left to fill, so no need to upgrade there. Untill I see what these next-gen games are doing and how they tax the system, I will probably keep my drives) Benchmarks: Sisoft Sandra 2007 Aquamark3 3DMark06 (still more to come on these…ran out of time) I have posted the CPUz screens as well to show that no changes were made to the anything other than the memory divider. I have posted as well the Aquamark screens showing the performance difference between the dividers Also have the 3DMark06 score off the last benchmark running 2.684 with the 1:1 CPU/DRAM config. 266: Aquamark: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...arks/266_AQ.jpg CPUz: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/Benchmarks/CPUz.jpg http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/Benchmarks/CPUz2 Mem Bandwidth: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...m_Bandwidth.jpg 333: Aquamark: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...arks/333_AQ.jpg CPUz: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...ks/333_CPUz.jpg http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...s/333_CPUz2.jpg Mem Bandwidth: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...m_Bandwidth.jpg 400 or 1:1: Aquamark: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...arks/400_AQ.jpg CPUz: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...ks/400_CPUz.jpg http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...s/400_CPUz2.jpg Mem Badwidth: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...m_Bandwidth.jpg 3DMark06: http://www.geocities.com/get_n_jiggy2001/B...00_2.68GHz_.xls Now from looking at these, it would appear as if the 8800GS is really using everything it can, and the Memory Bandwidth is playing a role in how fast this card can go. Like I said earlier this is preliminary, and I would as other users of an 8800 to check their results as well, and see what happens. I will be looking farther into this as well. I had a bud of mine check on his 7800GT, and yes there was not really a significant different, but here we see that going from 266 - 400 there was a difference. I know my RAM isn't helping me any, and I want to retest once I get my OCZ 2x1GB...and see where I can go from there. Thoughts....comments.....suggestions? I was rather interested in these findings, and want to see if this is something we need to look at as gamers. Reverting back to the days of MAX CPU with MAX FSB, instead of just trying to max out the CPU. Thanx all! -Jubb out
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