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  1. Asked the mods to move this from amd overclocking. Sorry about this. Post #1 Am just doing an install of xp32 and 64. One of the reasons for this was that the shutdown was incredibly slow. Well fresh install and same problem. Not sure from memory (mine that is, not comp) whether this slowdown has come about since I've moved from the expert to ultra-d. I know there are quite a few other threads on this matter. Just wondered if anyone has since found a solution. Thanks ahead. RLM Post #2 Update: msconfig, cleared all but microsoft system processes. It's a fresh install so there wasn't much to clear. Removed the ide and floppy connection from motherboard. Reflashed bios 2005-11-14 Removed one stick of ram. Removed all usb, but keyboard and mouse. (Haven't installed drivers for these yet) Removed internet/lan cable. Checked rhe registry. Can't remember the exact name but virtual mem backup was already set to 0/disabled. Rant on Still a slow shutdown. Never in all my years of installing fresh installs have I come across this. I'm starting to believe it's a hardware/motherboard issue. It's certainly a waste of my time. Had I known that I would of still had slow shutdowns, I would skipped the fresh OS install and just done some work instead. Rant off One sympton is that during shutdown the memory leds (corsair) seems to be very busy. Any help, or confirmation of an Ultra-D trait would be greatly appreciated. If it is an Ultra-D trait, then I can stop arsing about, and learn to live with it. RLM
  2. Ryn, that's an interesting one. Hadn't considered that. I'm back on the expert now anyway, and as said all seems fine for the mo. I do know that creative cards have their issues. Had a few probs with my Asus card and creative drivers. ronin688, I have expereinced that as well, however the shutdown issue was a bit different. It would get to the windows shutting down page no probs, then it would stay like that for an absolute age. I've got corsair memory with LED's, so I could see that the memory was very busy during this duration. A process basically wasn't terminating properly. (Guessing?) From my conclusion, and I appreciate it's not 100%, it is a hardware problem though. I do exactly the same installs on both the expert and the ultra-d. The expert no problems, the ultra-d problems. It's good that fixes are being suggested, but I do ask myself why should you have to? I think you also have to take into account that one ultra-d isn't going to be the same as another. I'm coming to the conclusion, it's almost the same as buying cpus. i.e. A model from june last year, might perform better than one produced in December last year. I am guessing here though. Anyways, waffling. Cheers for the feedback and help folks. Appreciated RLM
  3. Logger, Cheers for that, but I also tried all those regedits to no avail. Worth having that link though, as it might help someone else. Cheers RLM
  4. RLM

    AMD Athlon X2 3800+ OC Problem

    Allegedly the PCI express makes no difference at all, though some will beg to differ. Would be interesting to know exactly what your stepping is? It would certainly give us a rough idea as to whether your OC seems about right or not. As someone else said here the stepping is written on top of the chip and would read something like LDBHE 0602XPCW as an example. Just read on another forum how a guy with an x2 3800 managed to jump from 2.66 to 2.9 by loosening up his async latency and read preamble settings. Don't know if that was prime stable though. Few things. Personally I wouldn't bother increasing the chipset or LDT volts unless it really is making a difference. Just creating unecessary temp increase if not. Secondly don't know what your memory recommended voltage is, but please bare in mind that the Ultra-D settings can be a bit off. Insome cases they can be up to .2v higher than what you actually set i.e. 3.0v instead of 2.8v If you read above where you set the Dram voltage you should get a close to actual reading. On my ultra-d I had to set it to 2.7v to get 2.8v. Does this make sense? Anyways there you go. RPG
  5. UPDATE Right you can forget that UPHClean. Didn't really make the slightest difference. Was suffering with a bit of instability in everyday work/usage and the shutdowns were really starting to get on my nerves. Sometimes taking several minutes. So I stuck the expert board back in. Did it make any difference? Well no not straight away. However, I re-installed the dual OS x32 and x64 and everything is now tikadeeboo. Shutdowns are as they should be. What does this say to me? Well the Ultra-D possibly has a problem, or causes a problem/corruption during installation of windows XP. Don't know why exactly, but interesting that the problem carried over to the expert board, until I did a fresh install. Please remember I did numerous installs on the Ultra-D to no avail. I just wonder now, if I stuck the Ultra-D back in with current OS, whether it would shut down properly. Would be nice to put this issue to bed. RLM
  6. As above. Exactly my thoughts. It maybe paranoia, but sometimes it's almost like they want you to mess up, just so they can say, we told you so. I tried this latest bios. Just before entering windows one of my screens started displaying a load of rubbish. Hadn't seen this before. i rebooted without OC and all was fine this time. However thought that was enough of a warning so have gone back to previous bios. They say you should only update bios if you are having problems, which seems fair advice. My system has an incredibly slow shutdown, and I wanted to see if this helped at all. RLM
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    PCI-E Mhz

    Question that crosses my mind then, is if it is kind of pointless why have it as an option in the bios? Seems a bit daft :confused: RLM
  8. Can't pretend to know the ins and outs, however in games I'd guess you are talking about an interaction between cpu and graphics card. Basically what I'm guessing here is that games stress is a whole different ball game to prime stress. I've experienced proof of this running cinebench. In the opengl examples I get a higher score in certain fields, with a higher cpu overclock. Anyway enough of that waffle. All I would say is keep an open mind. You might find that a different driver works better. Just another thought. Can't remember who, but someone here mentioned that they had to up the PCI Express Frequency to get stability. I haven't experienced any difference in touching this setting myself but maybe trying a setting up to 105 might be worth a try. Anyway, hope you sort it RLM
  9. As Baldy says. What are your temps in bios PC HEALTH? RLM
  10. Just some thoughts. Could it be driver related? I've had a lot of issues which have come down to dual core issues, the need for hotfixes or nvidia driver problems. Have you recently installed any new drivers? Maybe try posting on the nvidia forum to see if someone is experiencing something similar. An unstable OC may corrupt your OS apparently. Maybe that has already happened. Might be worth uninstalling graphics and sound drivers properly, and re-installing. As I say just some thoughts. RLM
  11. Well it's crystal clear now. UPHClean brought up this in the Event viewer. The following handles in user profile hive *********************************************** have been remapped because they were preventing the profile from unloading successfully: svchost.exe (1036) HKCU (0x378) *=comp name etc. UPHClean is a diagnostic app/service, which will also force services to close, freeing up ram and shutting down the system. Seems to work However WTF is svchost.exe (1036)? I know it's blasphemy, but I still suspect that it's a conflict brought on by this motherboard or it's conflict with other hardware. It's only the same install I've done a number of times on my asus'es and it's never been a problem. Why now? Anyway, if you do have a similar issue, I'd recommend installing UPHClean. RLM
  12. No Confused, don't seem to have that problem. Mouse moves about just fine. I haven't installed logitech drivers yet, trying to keep things simple, while I try and figure this out. Cheers for the feedback Should really delete this thread, as have started a new one in nforce4. RLM
  13. Mod: Sorry too many windows open, can you please move this to the right forum nforce4. oops Am just doing an install of xp32 and 64. One of the reasons for this was that the shutdown was incredibly slow. Well fresh install and same problem. Not sure from memory (mine that is, not comp) whether this slowdown has come about since I've moved from the expert to ultra-d. I know there are quite a few other threads on this matter. Just wondered if anyone has since found a solution. Thanks ahead. RLM
  14. Cheers for the feedback Function8. Haven't installed my creative drivers yet. Thing is in msconfig, all processes, excluding essentials are disabled. (Well not at this moment as I'm online, but in my tests) Don't use Norton anymore. have mcafee, but again this is prevented from starting up in msconfig. Even uninstalled graphics drivers. RLM
  15. Light at the end of the tunnel. Just did a boot in safemode. Hit restart, and it was as a quick as a flash. Need to find that offending process :confused: RLM
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    PWM IC Temps overly high =/

    The fan suggestion is a good one. Mine shot up to 70c (WARNING) during prime the other day. Bit of a shock. I now have a fan over it, connected to fan 2 on the motherboard, and my max temps are about 51/52 now. The fan also helps cool the chipset. RLM
  17. Mate, I had this exact same problem. In fact I could prime for hours, and then about a minute after stopping i.e. back in idle my system would just shutdown. Same no BSOD or restart. My solution. I re-sat the cpu and heatsink, and I pushed on the powercables, just to check if they had come loose. I suspect the latter was the actual cause. Whilst sorting out my ide cables I believe I might of pulled on the 12v cable just a bit. Anyways after doing the above, problem disappeared. Hope this helps. RLM
  18. Still in the wrong forum: Update: msconfig, cleared all but microsoft system processes. It's a fresh install so there wasn't much to clear. Removed the ide and floppy connection from motherboard. Reflashed bios 2005-11-14 Removed one stick of ram. Removed all usb, but keyboard and mouse. (Haven't installed drivers for these yet) Removed internet/lan cable. Checked rhe registry. Can't remember the exact name but virtual mem backup was already set to 0/disabled. Rant on Still a slow shutdown. Never in all my years of installing fresh installs have I come across this. I'm starting to believe it's a hardware/motherboard issue. It's certainly a waste of my time. Had I known that I would of still had slow shutdowns, I would skipped the fresh OS install and just done some work instead. Rant off One sympton is that during shutdown the memory leds (corsair) seems to be very busy. Any help, or confirmation of an Ultra-D trait would be greatly appreciated. If it is an Ultra-D trait, then I can stop arsing about, and learn to live with it. RLM
  19. day187, look's like you only have one instance of superpi running there chap. You need two running with affinity set to each core of your processor. RLM
  20. Probably worth looking into the above recommendations. However, I had a similar issue with my x2 3800+. It would prime just fine, and then the system would shutdown (actually at IDLE). I tried at lower settings and same issue. I remounted the cpu and heatsink, and I pushed on all power connections, just in case and the problem went away. Might not apply, but thought worth a mention. RLM
  21. The score is that my expert board needs more voltage than my Asus premium did for the same OC. by about 0.05. (I admit I didn't properly test these readings with a multimeter) My asus had two connectors. The expert had 4 and an upgraded PSU. All so that I could have a less stable overclock, and shell out extra for that result. I have just bought an Ultra-D. They seem to be consistently better than the Expert and I was expecting similar results to my Asus, with the advantage of a less restrictive bios. Unfortunately results have been the same if not worse. This is why I'm now among other things messing about with lead configurations. That and the fact I have a fan mounted roughly in the PWMIC/Chipset area, and those bloody cables get in the way. I also like the fact that the distance between the HDD and FDD, is just a bit more than the distance on my supplied cables, meaning that two connections are totally wasted. Anyway. I agree with both of you, my results are hardly conclusive and I should test more. The reason for my question though, was to find out if anyone had already actually tested with or without, and reached any conclusions. RLM Sorry Twivel, didn't read your response properly. So if there's nothing really to be gained either way, I'm probably better off without. I have one harddrive. One graphics card powered directly from the PSU. The cables get in the way.
  22. I know the safe recommended advice is to fit all connectors. I did this on my expert board, and I have been doing it on my Ultra-D. I then did a prime test at a certain O/C. The difference was that with the HDD type and FDD type connected, prime failed in 4 minutes, and with these removed it failed at 19 minutes instead. I have read of other people stating that without these connections they have more stable an O/C, and vice'n'versa. Not really conclusive as I didn't repeat tests, but I'm interested in other peoples findings. As I say I know the safe recommended advice. RLM
  23. I was going to go on about selling, buying an x2 3800+ again, blah blah blah, but you sort of know your chip sucks. Sorry. What are your temperatures at 1.575v? The safe advice is keep it below 1.5v. Are those settings prime stable? Even for an average x2 4400 those results seem a bit low, and vcore a bit high. I'm comparing that to my old 4200. Have you tried the 11x multiplier instead? My 4200 preferred the 11x. On my asus, which didn't go above 1.5v vcore, I was prime stable just under 2.6 ghz and was able to run without any issues at 2.64 i.e. 11 x 240. RLM
  24. Had the same difference in voltage/overclock you are reporting, between my asus premium and dfi expert. This is my first DFI board, and I'm seriously considering picking up an Ultra-D. Interested in trying that SSE/SSE2 disabling though. Will give it a try. RLM
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    In Place large FTTs vs Custom

    Large in place FFT's is more Ram stress, not cpu Oceanborn. Or atleast that's how it reads. Small FFt's is more cpu stress. I know what you mean though. Your question applies more to my scenario, where I've been using small FFT's without a problem. You would think for the custom test that upping something like the vdimm voltage would be what's called for, not vcore. That said more ram stress, I'm guessing would still bring the cpu into the equation. Another guess is that the memory controller is on the cpu. Haven't a clue what a memory controller does mind :confused: (off to read up, handles the communication between cpu and ram I think) Have been wondering whether tinkering a bit more with the memory settings, drive strength etc, might help with the custom test. I've tried loosening things a bit, but that hasn't helped. Would like to get the voltage back down a tad. RLM
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