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  1. Over three weeks since I flashed to the 11/02 BIOS and no crashes to date. I haven't put in a terribly large amount of time playing but I have got in a few 6+ hour clumps of Dungeons and Dragons Online, plus some Day of Defeat: Source and recently some Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. I did encounter one graphical glitch in Oblivion but it didn't crash my computer, and was fixed upon restarting the game so I'm going to assume it is unrelated and blame it on the game since there have been a lot of reports of general bugginess about this game. Took almost a month to get this build working perfectly from when I first put it together but since that I've been as happy as a pig in mud (except for the herniated disc in my spine which makes it too painful to sit at my computer for long periods of time which is why I haven't been putting in 40+ hours of gaming/week).
  2. I never had a problem with Source games on my old rig: Asus A7N8X-Deluxe AMD Athlon XP 2800+ Barton GeForce FX 5900 Ultra 2x 512MB Corsair TwinX Except of course that I couldn't play the games in their full glory at 1600x1200, heh. Thus the new rig. Plus, the Silicon Image RAID controller on that board was a POS.
  3. So far no crashes since I switched to the 11/02 BIOS. Everything is running smooth as silk now and I am extremely happy with my OC and my rig in general now.
  4. MX518 Max Payne mouse pad that came free with the first game.
  5. Temperatures were discussed in the original thread on this subject and it was pretty much decided that it wasn't the problem. I don't know about every computer but mine is as cool as a summer breeze in the Antarctic. CPU never climbs above 38C, GPU's never climb above 55C and chipset about 50C. Plus one of my side fans is blowing directly onto my memory, and I've tested with the memory running at 2.7v which is understock (default voltage is 2.75v) and still had the crash (even though the comp was dual Prime95 stable). My computer is a veritable tunnel of wind and noise because I'm not shy about having a super loud computer. I just turn the volume up on my speakers. Really, if you can hear your computer over the noise of gunfire, you're not doing it right
  6. Which BIOS are you using, 11/02/05 or 12/07/05? And how long have you had your computer and been playing games on it? If you have the 12/07 BIOS and have only had your rig a few weeks (or don't play games for long periods of time) then you might not have run into the crashing yet, it is very sporadic. In other news, I flashed to 11/02 yesterday and haven't crashed since. DoD:S goodness and DDO:Stormreach most of yesterday without a problem. Interestingly, I've only found one difference so far between the 11/02 and 12/07 and it wasn't listed in the changes on the DFI main page for the 12/07 BIOS. There is a setting in Genie BIOS called "Dual NV chip card Support" or something like that, it is right under the PCI Express Configuration setting. In the 12/07 BIOS, this setting is grey and cannot be accessed while the PCI Express Configuration is set to 8-4-NC-8, it can only be enabled when PCIe is set to 2-1-1-16. In the 11/02 BIOS, the Dual NV chip card support doesn't become grey as you change between different PCI express settings, you can access it no matter what setting you are using. I didn't fiddle with it as I am pretty sure it is for dual GPU video cards, but it makes me think that some of the SLI settings must have been changed in the 12/07 BIOS from the 11/02 one. Maybe one of those changes in that area screwed the pooch? Just a theory on my part.
  7. There is a BIOS option that you need to set to 'Enabled' to recognize USB Keyboards and Mouse.
  8. There is a BIOS control to enable "Dual NV chip cards" in the Genie BIOS, but it can only be accessed when PCI-Express lanes are set to 2-1-1-16 (I think that is what it is) instead of the 8-4-0-8 settings. The manual doesn't aknowledge that this setting exists but I'm guessing it is for those video cards that have two 6600GT GPU's on the same card, a single card SLI. I don't think it will help Austhor out if he has two single GPU 6600GT's but then again, if nothing else is working, I'd give it a try anyway. Sounds like he has moved on to a 7800GTX instead though. Flashing to the 11/02/05 BIOS tomorrow (well, later today, but after I get some sleep). Been so busy this week that I haven't even been able to play games to experience the crash. Angry, if you want to test for long periods of time without actually having to play games the entire time, you could try setting up a non-dedicated DoD:S server filled with bots with your computer as a spectator. That should be identical to actually playing without having to sit there playing games all day which you probably don't want to do. Actually, you probably do, because that would be a lot of fun, but who has time to sit at their computer playing games all day, heh.
  9. Do they? Handy that. Only running SATA 1.5Gbps myself, but I would still plug in the Samsung drives into the nV chip so that they don't bottleneck while bursting out of cache. But either way, no big deal.
  10. Any 7800GT should work, just make sure you are using 8x.xx Forceware drivers. 7x.xx Forceware drivers needed identical cards to work in SLI.
  11. Try going to Power Management Setup in the BIOS and make sure that "Soft-Off by PBTN" is set to "Delay of 4 Seconds." I was having a similar problem at first and changing that setting fixed it right up.
  12. According to the Samsung products page here: http://www.samsung.com/Products/HardDiskDr...ies_SP2504C.htm The SP2504C is a SATA-2 Harddrive. That means you will need to plug all four of those into the nVidia SATA controller because it supports SATA-2. The Silicon Image Sil 3114 chip only supports SATA 1.5Gbps.
  13. http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Download/bios..._FLAG=A&SITE=US
  14. If you game more than anything else, than the video card would definitely be the best bet, followed by increasing RAM. You really won't notice a difference between an X2 3800+ with what you have now while gaming, unless you want to convert video's to MP4 WHILE gaming.
  15. I'd be impressed to see a GPU reach 200C without melting. Hell, 100C is 212F, otherwise known as the boiling point of water (and while the GPU isn't made of water, I sure wouldn't want to run any electronic component at that temperature for long). Maybe they meant that the card was good up to 200F instead of 200C. My quick Google for maximum operating temperature came up with around 90C (though with a lot of variables).
  16. If you are thinking about running SLI, you might want to check out this thread before buying a SLI-DR Expert. http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44874 Other than that, the SLI-DR Expert is terrific, I haven't had a problem other than the one mentioned in that thread.
  17. Here is the list of all effected hardware. I edited it so that it would all be using the same basic terminology. Let me know if it needs to be edited more, I would have done a better job now except that I'm at work. System #1 DFI Lan Party UT SLI-DR Expert AMD Opteron 170 2GB(2x1gb) Patriot 2-3-2-5 @ 2.6vdimm 2 x eVGA 7800GTX in SLI Memorex MRN-500x 16 dual layer DVD+/-RW SilverStone Strider 600w model no. ST60F Seagate ST380013AS (74gig) SATA System #2 DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI DR Expert (BIOS 12/7) AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ 2x Leadtek 7800 GTX 512MB Vivo Extreme Edition in SLI 2x 1GB Corsair TwinX 4000PT XMS Platinum DDR500 CL3 T1 Creative Soundblaster Xi-FI 2x Western Digital 200GB SATA-II in RAID 0 21" IBM Trinatron Altek Lansing FX6021 Windows XP Pro with SP2 CM Stacker 830 OCZ 520 Watt Powerstream Razer Copperhead Mouse Zboard Keyboard System #3 DFI Lanparty UT N4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS 12/07/2005) AMD Opteron 144 @ 2.7GHz (9 x 300) 2x GSkill PC4000 @ 245MHz 2x XFX 7800GT in SLI @ 490MHz GPU clock/1.11GHz Memory clock 74GB Western Digital Raptor Creative Soundblaster Xi-Fi FPS Fatal1ty Thermaltake PurePower TWV 500W PSU NEC ND4551 16x16 DVD±RW Dual Layer ReWriter Thermaltake VA8000BWA Armour Super Tower Thermaltake Bigwater Cooling Kit Sytem #4 DFI Lanpary UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS 12/07/2005) AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ @ 2.5MHz 1.42Vcore 2X PQI Turbo 2GB PC-3200 @ 228MHz 2x XFX 6600GT in SLI 500MHz GPU core clock/1000MHz Memory clock Western Digital 160GB P-ATA LG DVD+/-RW - IDE1 Antec TP II 550W Powersupply System #5 DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS 12/07) AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ @ 2500Mhz 10x250 OCZ PC4000 GOLD XTC 2x XFX 7800GTX Extreme Edition (490MHz Coreclock/1300MHz Memory clock) in SLI (Arctic Cooling NV5 rev.3) EnerMax 600W PSU SLI Approved Creative Soundblaster Fatal1ty Xi-Fi FPS Edition Fatal1ty Zalman CPU Cooler 2x SATA2 Western Digital 160GB Harddrives System #6 DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 X2 4800+ 2x XFX 7800GTS in SLI 2x 1GB G-Skill PC3200 2-3-2-5 1T 1x Western Digital 320GB SATA2 2x 160GB Hitachi SATA2 in RAID 0 Creative Sounblaster Xi-Fi Fatality FPS PC Power&Cooling 1,000 Watt Powersupply System #7 DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS 12/07/05) AMD Athlon64 3700+ San Diego @ 2.8GHz PC Power & Cooling Turbo Cool 510 Watt SLI Powersupply 1GB OCZ Platinum PC3200 (OCZ4001024ELDCPER2-K) @ 2-2-2-8 2x eVGA 7800GT in SLI Thermalright XP-90 with Vantec Stealth 92mm fan Creative Soundblaster Audigy 1 1x Western Digital 250GB 16MB Buffer SATA-2 Harddrive Lian-Li PC-7B Case System #8 DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 X2 4800+ 2x Corsair TWINX Platinum 1GB PC-4000 2x eVGA 7800GTX 256MB Creative SoundBlaster Xi-FI xTreme Music soundcard 2x 300GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 7,200RPM Harddrives Pioneer 16x Black DVD+/-RW DVR-101 - IDE LiteOn 52x32x52 Black CDRW NEC Generic Floppy Drive Antec TruePower 550w EPS12V Powersupply CoolerMaster WaveMaster Silver Case Logitech 5500 5.1 Speaker Set Windows XP Pro with SP2 Microsoft Media Pro Keyboard & Logitech G5 Mouse (USB) System #9 DFI LanParty SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 X2 4800+ 2x 1GB Corsair CS2 3-3-3-8 2x 7800GTX in SLI OCZ Modstream 520w Powersupply 2x 250GB Hitachi T7k250 SATA-2 Harddrive System #10 DFI LanPartyUT nF4 SLI-DR Expert (12/07 BIOS) AMD Athlon64 FX-57 2940MHz 1.45vcore with Asus X-Mars Heatsink+Fan 4x CorsairXMS TWINX1024-3200C2 512MB @ DDR490 3-3-3-7 2.81vdimm 2x eVGA 7800GTX KO in SLI 515MHz Core clock/1405MHz Memory clock with Arctic Cooling NV5Rev3 Coolers Creative Soundblaster Xi-Fi Fatal1ty ATI Theater550 TV+FMTuner 2x Western Digital Raptor 36GB 1x Hitachi 230GB 3x Maxtor 320GB HP DVD740i DVD LG DVD-ROM Aspire PFC-680W/EPS12v Powersupply Windows MCE '05 with SP2 Lian-Li V1000B+ Case System #11 DFI Lanparty UT SLI-DR Expert with 12/07/05 BIOS AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+ 2.0GHz With Zalman CNPS9500 LED CPU Cooler 2x 1GB OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 GX XTC at 3-4-3-8 1T 2x XFX 7800GT in SLI 1x Western Digital RE2 400GB SATA-2 Harddrive Creative Soundlbaster Xi-Fi Platinum OCZ Powersteam 520 Watt Powersupply Windows XP Home with SP2 System #12 DFI Lanparty UT SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 FX-60 2x 1GB OCZ PC-4000 Platinum 2x eVGA 7800GTX 2x Wester Digital Raptor 74GB Harddrive Creative Soundblaster Xi-Fi Fatal1ty OCZ Powerstream 600 Watt Powersupply System #13 DFI Lanparty UT SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 FX-60 2x 1GB Samsung UCCD RAM 2x Leadtek 7800GTX 512B Soundblaster Creative Xi-Fi Enermax Noisetaker 600W Powersupply 2x 80GB Hitachi Sata-2 RAID 0 System #14 DFI LanParty NF4 SLI-DR Expert AMD Athlon64 4000+ San Diego 2x 512MB Kingston HyperX KHX3200AK2 2-3-2-6 2x eVGA 7800GT Creative Soundblaster Xi-Fi Xtreme Music 1x Seagate Barracuda 250GB SATA (ST3250824AS) LiteOn DVD R/RW ENERMAX Liberty 620Watt (ELT620AWT) Powersupply LianLI PC-61 Case System #15 DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS NF4EDC07) AMD Opteron 148 CABYE 0543FPMW or AMD Opteron 170 CCB1E 0550VPMW 2x 1GB DDR PC4000 Ballistix 2x BFG GeForce 7800GTX OC 256MB Creative SoundBlaster Xi-Fi Xtreme Music 1x Western Digital 74GB Raptor 10,000RPM Harddrive 1x Western Digital 320GB Caviar SE Harddrive Plextor PX-716SA Dual Layer SATA Zalman CNPS9500 LED CPU Cooler Thermaltake Hardcano 12 fan controller Enermax Noisetaker 600W Powersupply Thermaltake Armor Case System #16 DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR Expert (BIOS 12/07/2005) <--revision AA0 AMD Athlon64 3700+ San Diego E4 2x 1GB Mushkin PC4000 3-4-3-8 2x eVGA 7800GT in SLI OCZ PowerStream 520W Powersupply Creative SoundBlaster Audigy 2 Value 2x Samsung 80GB Harddrive in RAID 0 Description of problem: Computers are stable in Windows and during stability testing, but crash in a 3D enviroment such as games. The monitor loses signal and goes blank, while the sound begins playing a five to ten second loop. The only way to fix this is to restart the computer. Individual components such as CPU, RAM, video cards and powersupply, when tested in other systems work perfectly. We have tried Forceware 81.95, 81.98, 82.12 drivers. Also, nVidia nForce4 chipset drivers 6.53 and 6.70. The 11/02/2005 BIOS appears to fix this problem, it is still being tested to see if the crashes have stopped. Let me know if there is any other information you need Angry, and I'll send it tonight when I get home. Edit: Added SkewdLogix and njack's systems to the compiled list.
  18. Thanks TechnoDanVan for the post. We're not (or at least, I'm not) expecting instantaneous miracle cures, but it's nice to know that Angry (otherwise known as the "Uber-Admin" ) is at least aware that there is a problem.
  19. Maybe they all are? I wouldn't hazard a guess at how many people have purchased SLI-DR Expert motherboards, but if you look at the poll on this page: http://www.techreport.com/ you can see that only about 8% of the 3,500 voters use SLI. And I would have to imagine that the demographic of Techreport.com readers is pretty similar to DFI-Street.com's readers. And that poll was started before ATI released the X1900 series, which it looks like a lot of people who want the biggest and the best (which the SLI-DR Expert would come under) are picking up those. Then, subtract all the people who purchased the SLI-DR Expert before the 12/07 BIOS started coming on the motherboard standard, who probably never bothered to flash to a new BIOS if the old one was working fine (which it apparently does) and you probably have a pretty small number of people who are running SLI systems on the SLI-DR Expert with the 12/07 BIOS. Once you have the fairly small number of people who could potentially have this problem, how many of them find their way to DFI-Street? I was just looking around DFI.com and they don't list DFI-Street anywhere on there that I could find. Only reason I knew about this place was because I read a post in some other tech related forum saying how great this place was. Once you have the miniscule number of people who potentially have this problem and find their way to DFI-Street, how many of them troubleshoot their problem so well that they are able to narrow down the problem to the motherboard (instead of the monitor/CPU/RAM/GPU/overclock which would all seem to be more likely culprits than the motherboard itself)? I could be way off base here but I don't think it is entirely outside the realm of logic to assume that possibly every single person with the SLI-DR Expert with the 12/07 BIOS who is running SLI is having this problem. Just that the problem is so random, and infrequent (I can go several days without a crash sometimes), and so hard to pin down the cause, that there hasn't been a large uproar about the problem. Thats just my two (or more like nine) cents.
  20. Something intrinsically wrong with the 12/07 BIOS itself I would guess, since mine came with 12/07 on it already (and hopefully the guys at the factory know how to flash the BIOS correctly, heh). Let us know if you have been stable up through Friday and I'll flash to the 11/02 BIOS on Saturday (I'd do it earlier except I've got a pretty busy week of stuff to do). I was just checking to see what the difference between the 12/07 and 11/02 BIOS were and according to the DFI main site: Memory support shouldn't be a problem since I believe we are all using pretty decent and common RAM. And I don't know what "Add over clocks step by step" means but losing it probably won't effect most of us. And most of us don't use FX-60's, though it looks like this fix might not work for Liudavid and Doctahg. Looks like you have already replaced your motherboard Liudavid and you might have to do that as well Doctahg. I like DFI and think they are a large pile of general awesomness, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another BIOS update to fix this problem.
  21. DoD:S is great. I just built my brand new computer so I could get some silky smooth gameplay in F.E.A.R, B&W2, and CoD2, but I've just been playing DoD ever since I got my computer up and running. Though the HDR lighting that I can now see is purty...
  22. Run two instances of Prime95, one for each core, for at least 8-12 hours to check CPU and RAM stability. The thread for setting up dual Prime95 tests can be found here: http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16446
  23. Yes, I've personally experimented with 81.95, 81.98 and 82.12 (beta) drivers. I haven't gone older than that so far but considering that none of the ones I have tried have made a difference, I'm not very optimistic about even older ones fixing this problem. Not sure if anyone else has experimented with older Forceware drivers.
  24. You're getting this problem with only one video card? Odd. Have you run Memtest86 and dual Prime95's to check for non-3D stability? And have you installed the AMD Dual Core patch and the Microsoft Dual Core hotfix? I would guess that your problem is being caused by something other than what is causing our problem since we all have no problem with a single card (Right?).
  25. Its not like you can just throw out computer components anyway. What if you need a PCI video card one day incase your AGP/PCI-X slot goes dead? And you just can't throw away the old 486 it happens to be sitting in right now, you might need it for something. What if there is something on the 200MB harddrive that you forgot to backup and might want some day down the road? And of course you need to hang on to your collection of floppy discs, you might need them one day when you're CD/DVD burner goes dead. Sure, you'll have to scrounge up a floppy drive to read them with since you didn't bother installing it in the latest and greatest.....but what if?! Heheh
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