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  1. All right, the time of my build is ever encroaching. My case and SATA hard drive should be here by Wednesday-Thursday? I am feeling both nervous and anxious right now. I am nervous considering all the things that could go wrong, but mre anxious to work anything out that is wrong or maybe even have a successful/stable build right from teh start. MY BIG QUESTION: These are the final moments to collect everything I need. I have printed off a lot of good info, downloaded Tmod flash CD, and printed good advice/forum wisdom. --If you completed a build and could look back and wish that you knew certain things before you started, what would they be? Is there anything that you wish you knew before you ran into it as a problem or knew that your build could have gone smoother? I just want to be prepared the best I can for this build. It is my first, so I really don't want to be scared out of ever trying something like this again. Thanks again, everyone. This forum is a breath of fresh air!!
  2. This is my first build. I must be a glutton for punishment, because I chose the DFI UT nF4 Sli-DR Expert. The onyl drive that I have for this build is a Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 250GB 7200 RPM SATA. Is this going to be hard to build with? I was under the impression that the board would be SATA ready... My case will be arriving Wednesday. HORRAY! So I am still doing pre-build research. I have the step-by-step procedure that jacobsen wrote, which is for the nF4 SLi-D, but should still be helpful. Does anyone else have a checklist of things to make sure I am doing right or things that I should consider? Any help or suggestion will be appreciated!
  3. So the Modstream won't work with the Expert board because the Expert needs a 8-pin? I was not aware of this? Does this mean that you have to go with the Powerstream over the Modstream if you have the Expert?
  4. Both of these G.Skills are out of stock at NewEgg right now? If that's the case...
  5. Thank you everyone that has responded with suggestions. I will stick with my X2 4400+ and not look back. It may even turn out that I am too chicken to OC on such expensive hardware, in which case I made the right decision. Does anyone here have horror stories about OC? Burnt out chips? Fried components?
  6. whoops! How did I miss that? I meant to get the mobo/CPU bundle but then I got caught up in a sale they were having. Now I have the DFI LP UT nF4 SLi-DR Expert and X2 4400+ seperate. Are you saying that it come with a cooler? I have to buy one seperately? I was under the assumption that the AMD chip would come with a cooler fan packages with it?
  7. Before I go on, I just want to thank all of you for your help and suggestions. As much research as I have done and as much as I thought I had everything down, now that it comes time to actually spend the money, I get nervous. Is there any big reason why I would need the more expensive OCZ PSU listed here? Will the less expensive one do fine? I will be OC'ing definitely and MAY one day go for SLi, though coming upon an extra $450 to blown is very unlikely. Less Expensive Modstream: OCZ ModStream OCZ52012U 520W Power Supply - Retail http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817104155 More Expensive (by almost $50 if you count the rebate): OCZ PowerStream OCZ520ADJSLI ATX, BTX, SATA, P4 and EPS12V 520W Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817711002 Ha...all this trouble because the DFI mobos are so picky (still funny). THANKS AGAIN!
  8. UH OH....hmmm...I just found these too. Which of the three, though this one is OCZ. OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Platinum System Memory http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227210
  9. After confering with many knowledgeable people here and other forums, I have decided to go with G.Skill RAM. Now, which of these is best? Lower latency is better, right? Am I missing something else? G.SKILL Extreme Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model F1-3200PHU2-2GBZX http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231032 G.SKILL Extreme Series 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231021 That second one has higher latency marks, but is is DDR 500 (PC 4000). The first has lower latency but is DDR 400 (PC 3200). From what little I know, the second sticks seem better. (Though the first are sharper looking and have -$5 instant savings) Thoughts, suggestions? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
  10. It's crunch time. I need to choose the rest of my system so that my 15 day return policy doesn't lapse waiting for the other pieces. I know VERY LITTLE about performance RAM. So I need help. I need RAM that will be very stable, can be overclocked fairly well/easily, and will be accepted by my picky DFI SLi-DR Expert motherboard. HERE are some deals on performance RAM at NewEgg that I'm looking at: OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Platinum System Memory Model OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820227210 CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2pt http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820145575 mushkin eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991483 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820146397 mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model 991434 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820146425 CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...N82E16820145574 Sorry for all the questions, but hey, we all have to start somewhere!
  11. Do the dual Opterons handle gaming better than the X2's?
  12. more help....seriously, everyone must be at work?
  13. It's crunch time. I need to choose the rest of my system so that my 15 day return policy doesn't lapse waiting for the other pieces. I know VERY LITTLE about performance RAM. So I need help. I need RAM that will be very stable, can be overclocked fairly well/easily, and will be accepted by my picky DFI SLi-DR Expert motherboard. HERE are some deals on performance RAM at NewEgg that I'm looking at: OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Platinum System Memory Model OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820227210 CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2pt http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145575 mushkin eXtreme Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991483 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146397 mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model 991434 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820146425 CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model Twinx2048-3200c2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820145574 Sorry for all the questions, but hey, we all have to start somewhere!
  14. All right, I need a general consensus on this one before I do anything drastic. Last night I bought an AMD X2 4400+ in a combo with an eVGA 7800 GTX. Now, a lot of people are telling me to cancel my order and go with an Opteron. Are the X2's really that resistant to overclocking? Opteron 170 $414 + 7800 GTX $454 = $868 X2 4400 $464 + 7800 GTX $454 = $918 - $100 combo sale = $818 SO, the X2 4400 combo sale is $50 cheaper than the Opteron. Still, my main question is can the X2 4400 be overclocked to a decent extent at all? If I did cancel my order and go with the Opteron, I would definitely need to get an extra cooler to allow it to run at the OC speeds safely, right? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that I will be pleased any way I go. I just don't want to have spent all this money and then regret that I didn't buy the best bang for my buck. The fact is, I've never gotten into overclocking. At this point, I'm rather certain I will, but I definitely am no expert in OC in any manner. Seeing as how the stock X2 4400 is quicker than a stock Opteron, maybe I made the right decision? I'm sure everyone that doesn't have a lot of disposable income that is spending such an amount of money on a new system is nervous and wonders if they are making the right decisions. Problem now is that I need to buy all the rest of the stuff while the 15 day return policy is still good on the CPU, video card, and motherboard. THANKS!!
  15. That's funny! Before I decided on the 7800 GT initially, and in the end went with the 7800 GTX, I was considering two 6800 GS in SLi!! After I did some research at ExtremeTech and Tom's Hardware, it seemed pretty clear that the 7800 would outperform two 6800 GS's. This is according to both sites benchmarks and what-not, although it seems kinda strange. I also went with the one card over the two because of the sale, but mostly because two cards would demand more power. Still need some memory and PSU suggestions...
  16. Do I need a CPU cooler (like a Zalman) or a VGA cooler? I heard that the AMD X2s run rather well with their stock coolers, same as with the eVGA 7800 GTX. Now, I'm just nervous..... is there anything that I'm missing or may need for a healthy system?
  17. I apologize if I rant or am in any manner incoherent, I just made the great leap into computer building. It has been months since I decided I wanted to invest in a new system and weeks since I have been heavily researching for this build. After hours upon hours of reading everything I could to get a better understanding of where I would be going, I finally made my first purchase. Unfortunately, I still hadn't made up my mind on exactly what processor or motherboard I wanted at 11:30pm tonight. The threethings that I knew for sure was that I wanted a DFI motherboard, an eVGA 256mb video card, and an AMD X2 processor. Well, it just so happens that NewEgg decided to run a one day sale to force expedition on my decision. There I was, at around 11:50pm, with 10 minutes left to make a decision while the one day sale still lasted. Thankfully, I had made at least one of these decisions with certainty - I would go with the DFI LP UT nF4 SLi-DR Exp motherboard. However, the larger two decisions loomed. Do I go lower and more affordable to the AMD X2 4200 with the eVGA 7800 GT or do I go higher with the sale on the AMD X2 4400 with the eVGA 7800 GTX? With sweat starting to make the situation worse (no lie, seriously, this is a big decision to make with A LOT of money invloved), I had 5 minutes left to decide. Finally, I bit the bullet and went with the one day sale on the AMD X2 4400 w/ eVGA 7800 GTX!! (haha, now I can change my sig to these three new parts...) My heart is still pounding, and hopefully I made a decision that I can be happy with. Now, I just need to make the rest of my selections. This is where I would like some input, please. Right now, these are the other parts that I am considering: Memory:OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Platinum System Memory --->shoot, I missed the $45 sale on this kit (ended at 12:00PM) PSU:OCZ PowerStream OCZ520ADJSLI ATX, BTX, SATA, P4 and EPS12V 520W Power Supply 100~120Vac / 200~240Vac 10/6a Sound Card:CREATIVE LABS SOUNDBLASTER AUDIGY2 ZS GAMER PCI LIMITED EDITION ---->MWave has a $50 rebate on this one (exp 2/7/06) OS:Microsoft Windows XP Professional w/sp2 #E85-03014(DSP/OEM)*Must be Purchased w/Hardware ---->not sure about this...suggestions? Case: really not sure about this, but I'm leaning towards this one at the moment: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16811146018 NZXT LEXA-NP Black/ Silver Aluminum ATX Mid Tower If anyone has any input or suggestions, I would really appreciate it. The funny thing about this is that after doing research and talking to friends, I decided I wanted a DFI mobo. Making that decision drastically changed the course of this build. Before I knew the extent of the board's intracacies, it was just part of a build that I had put together on paper totaling around $1700. After research, and the VERY LARGE decision to stick with a DFI mobo, the build had to center around the desires of the mobo. Having to get memory that the DFI would accept and a PSU that would plug into the DFI and have the umph to support it, raised the total cost of the project up much higher. (Before, I was going to go with Kingston RAM and the PSU that came w/ the Aspire X-Navigator case.) I just find it funny that if you have the gusto and knowledge to go with a DFI motherboard that everything else must be discriminately taken into consideration. Well, at least I have the CPU, video card, and the motherboard -- now I just need to wait for my next paycheck and my tax refund to build the rest of this system. Thank you so very much if you took the time to read this rambling post that went for so long, particularly if you also took the time to respond. I also want to thank all of you in advance for the times that I KNOW that I will need your help in the future once I start putting everything together. THANKS AGAIN!! peace, jared
  18. I am in no way affiliated with mwave, but you have to consider everything effecting the ratings at BBB. First of all, Mwave has been registered with the BBB for six years longer than NewEgg. Six years is a long time. Also, it says directly on the BBB website that a CC rating is very common with this type of business. I haven't ordered anything from NewEgg, yet. Most of my order will be on Mwave, while a few items will come from NewEgg too. Personally, I have a few friends that have bought parts and systems from Mwave without a hitch. I guess I will be seeing how they both operate first-hand soon. How about some input on an AMD X2 or memory? I'm getting to crunch time, anxious to place my order and start the build.
  19. Thanks to everyone that has posted suggestions so far. I was a little weary about trusting the Aspire psu that came with the case. If getting a better psu is necesssary, then might as well choose a different (less expensive) case that doesnt include a psu and just selecting one seperate. Still not sure what to do about the memory. I have never used anything besides Kingston, but according to this site, I would be in for some hell if I attempted a build with K sticks. ALSO -- I really want a AMD X2, but I will be playing a lot of games. Of course, I have done my research and heard everywhere that the X2's have had some trouble running games. This makes me very scared. I really don't want to spend all of the money on this CPU just to find out that it doesn't do what I need it to! -I have also taken a look a the Opterons, but the X2 is cheaper, though it is less likely to be overclocked well. I have never overlocked anything in my life, but I will definitely be getting into that eventually. I don't want to seem pompous at all, but I have NEVER really wanted to do something in my life and failed at it. I KNOW I can build a new system, especiialy with help from tremendous support from forums like this one. This is just the point where I get really nervous while researching, afraid that I will spend $1500 on a system that will become useless as I drop the ball. From my research, there is just so much going on in a computer and so much that can go wrong. Regardless, I will continue to research and push on, hoping for the best. Oh, by the way, are you all aware of www.mwave.com? You probably are, but it really surprises me that they are consistently lower than ANY other website I have found (save a promo or rebate here and there). At first, I was going to set up a system for them to build (check out the site, it is definitely the only one that I have founf that you can choose every single, solitary piece of the system and they will build it and test it for an extra $80). I was going to go this route and have them build it, but it would be nice to save $80 and learn more about the true internal workings of a computer while I'm at it. THANKS AGAIN, everyone. Honestly, this is one of the greatest, quickest support forums that I have wandered into. Keep up the consistency!!
  20. Hello DFI forum I am researching for a new system build, hopefully I didn't post in the wrong place. When it came time to choose a motherboard for my new system, my friends recommended DFI, saying that they had the lowest return rate of any board. Now, I just need to decide which way to go. I have never built a system from scratch before, though I have done a lot of tinkering. I know that I'm going to use an AMD X2 4200+. I also know that I will get a N4 board that is SLI, though I will only be using one video card at first. I have done a lot of research, including on this site. Do you think it is possible for a new builder to get a DFI N4 SLI board working fairly easily? I did notice that DFI boards only run a hard drive transfer of 1.5gb max, whereas other boards go for 3gb. Is this really noticeable? I was going to use Kingston memory until I read the post on which RAM to use. Now, I fell like I have a big decision to make. I really like the ASPIRE X-NAVIGATOR (BLACK) ALUMINUM FULL TOWER W/500W ATX POWER SUPPLY 4x5.25" 2x3.5" 7x3.5"(hidden) W/SEE THROUGH SIDE WINDOW,FRONT USB CONNECTOR 120mm CASE FAN x 1 & 80mm CASE FAN x 4 case. Is this a decent case to use? I noticed that it has a 500W PSU and does operate a [email protected], which I read here would be necessary using SLI mode. What I fear most is setting up the BIOS. I have never edited a BIOS for any reason before this. I am certainly not an idiot by any means, but I am steadily building my knowledge base for this build. Does anyone have any advice as to any of this or what my next step should be? A lot of forums where I have done research on all of this, people are using an ASUS board, but I would really like to use a DFI one now that I have done the research, I'm just a little weary because you guys make it seem like it really takes an expert to set-up one of these boards... Thank you to anyone that took the time to read this message. particularly those that respond!
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