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  1. I am now at 275 MHz, 3-4-4-8, and 2.71v, and its been about 5 hours of memtesting (full tests) - no errors. *knocks on wood* - I hope to see all blue without any hint of red tomorrow morning before i head to work.
  2. So I take it that forcing Windows to search for new hardware still did not produce any results? If I encounter this issue, my remedy would probably just to pick up a X-Fi. That'll give me an excuse, lol.
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    Fan speeds?

    Without a speed sensor, u will have to go by ear, lol. You will not get any indicaton that it stopped working, which is what made me back away from the Panaflos for my CPU.
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    Fan speeds?

    Well, a lil OT here, but those who rave about the Panaflos, do they make a model with the speed sensor? How does the DFI mobos react to a 0 RPM CPU fan reading if not? I am a bit paranoid about using a fan that does not have a speed sensor for my CPU.
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    nF4 Memory Advice (updated 14/11/06)

    Update: I am currently testing my sticks at 275 MHz @ 3-4-4-8 @ 2.71v and is running Memtest86's full test just fine after 2 hrs (still need to leave it overnight). I am still currently testing, but it's a very good indication, since I'd usually see problems arise within the 1st pass (which takes an hour). It's on to pass 2 and beyond before I go to bed. Also, even if it fails futher down the line, I am confident that it would at least do 270 MHz, which is enough for me. I am using G.SKILL's 2x 1GB HZ memory, btw. Thanks again, Sharp, for the guide and recommendations!
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    Karajen or SB X-Fi?

    I guess for now, I can just use the decent onboard sound with some decent 2.1 speakers until I can afford the x-Fi and ZX-5500s (and when I have a bigger room for the 5.1 setup, lol). I don't feel the need to buy the X-Fi until I get a nice speaker set. Otherwise, it would seem a waste to buy the X-Fi just to plug in my $25 Altec Lansings 2.1 speakers.
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    Karajen or SB X-Fi?

    Usually, onboard sound is not worth comparing to a dedicated sound card, but since it seems like the Karajen is hyped up, I wonder how does it compare to the SB X-Fi? If not that, what about the Audigy 2 series? I would like to know what it is comparable (or what it beats) in 3 catagories - Sound Quality, Features (# of voices simultaneously, # of wav samples simultaneously, etc), and CPU Utilization. If there are other catagories that should be looked into, please add info on that as well. Thanks.
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    nF4 Memory Advice (updated 14/11/06)

    I still hve to thank you guys for recommending the G.Skill 2x1GB HZ modules. I passed microtests at 320 MHz (but not the full test) - I am currently trying to find the fastest stable speed using the full test. The microtests I am doing is just loopng Test #5 in memtest86 for 10 passes. Makes for a good fast general OC experimentation in a single day. I have a good feeling about 300 MHz even as being the full-test stable clock rate.
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    Fan speeds?

    Most fans now have a speed sensor. The connector would have a third speed-sensor wire along with the usual positive and negative.
  10. My timings are 3-4-4-8, and actually the overnight full test an failed. I tried to turn the voltage up to 2.71v and left it. I got my webcam pointed at my screen (using my home server to upload), and I saw that it failed that test too (I am out of town). when I get back, I think I will lower it to 310 MHz and try the full test. EDIT: I wanted to add that I am on CMD T1 all this time. I may loosen this up and try again at that ultra high clock rate
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    Fan speeds?

    Again, don't forget that larger fans can push more air at the same speed as a smaller fan, so you don't need a very fast 120mm fan. For the CPU, 1500 RPMs for a 120mm fan is very very good.
  12. I just got mine, and currently trying to find the highest speed using micro tests (looping Memtest on test #5 at for at least 10 passes, then moving on). I am literally in the middle of the test while posting this. i'm on 290 MHz @ 2.66v (the Expert board defaults to this voltage) at 3-4-4-8. I am shooting for 300 at a decent voltage, but will probably end up setting it slower so I can do 1:1 with my x2 3800+ (so far, it seems like the average high OC for that CPU is around 2.7 GHz, so I will run the memory at 270 MHz). So far, I am just testing the memory - the CPU is set to a 4x multiplier (very low). I will be testing how far I can push the CPU once I know the limitations of the memory (which seems to have a very high threshold of pain, so I'm not even going to worry about the memory being the bottleneck, lol). These Samsung ICs rock! And thanks to G.Skill for making them a little more affordable than the other botique memory brands. edit: 17 passes no errors, ... so moved on to 300 Mhz @ 2.66v and passed 2x on test #5. 0_o At this point, I'm not going to go any further if it goes through 10 passes error free. I'll just run the full test and call it a night. If it passes at 300 Mhz, I'll be happy to know that the G.Skill won't limit me on my CPU OC. No way I can get the Manchester 3800+ to 3GHz (1:1 for 10x 300). EDIT 2: I was still up, so I decided to experiment further. I got it up to 320 MHz at 2.66v, and now I'm running the FULL memtest86 tests as I doze off to sleep. I am very happy with this memory and motherboard. Thanks again to everyone (espcially the knowledgable DFI techs/mods here - Sharp especially and Angry_Games - even though we didn't start off on a good note). PS: Love the way Expert just bounces back (reboots) if something is wrong (fsb/memory set too high, etc) - makes for a very quick OC expermentation process.
  13. I read that the zalmans are very good, but noone here said a peep about them. Instead, I decided to go with the Thermaltake SI-120. It costs as much as other high quality heatsink (don't buy at Newegg, though - you can get it cheaper on xoxide or elsewhere). Once thing nice about this HS is that it is easy to clean if it gets dusty unlike other HS (search for an image and see what I mean). Also, it acccomidates a 120mm fan so it be more quiet and still push a decent amount of CFM. I recommend the Silverstone FM121 for the fan - it gives you a knob to control speed from 800 to 2400 RPMs. highest speed pushes 110 CFM. not sure at the lowest speed, but my stock CPU speed can be kept at 28*C idle and 38*C full load (see my sig for my rig info). I also like this setup because it circulate air to your memory too if oriented right. One thing to notice with this setup - you will have to zip-tie your fan to the clips, since it was meant to clip to the lower part of the fan's hole. Some fans (including the FM121) has a tunnel that goes straight through for the screws, so there is no "bottom part". http://www.insanetek.com/reviews/cooling/T...cture%20021.jpg But you see here: http://www.ocia.net/reviews/si120/pic12.jpg It can easily slip off if you don't zip tie it. The reason why I chose the Silverstone over the Panaflow is that he Panaflo does not have a speed sensor. Other than that, the specs are similarly impressive for the Silverstone. Price is not that different, and the Silverstone comes with the variable resistor knob that you can mount to an open 3.5 bay. EDIT: Oh, and for the PSU, I am very happy with my Seasonic. As said by everyone on the board, the new revision HAVE NO MORE ISSUES - yay! Mine started up and stayed on the first time.
  14. Don't buy another sound card - just any PCI sound card you can find and throw it in there. I'm wondering if that would cause windows to find new hardware again. before you do that, can you Right Click on your computer in device manager and click on "scan for hardware"? maybe that would get windows to start searching for any "new" devices (even though it was installed before). If that doesn't work, see if you can get a friend to lend u a PCI sound card, or buy a cheapo one from Frys or CompUSA - return it once ur done. I have yet to OC mine yet - waiting for my RAM. So far, stock, it's freezing cold! 38*C under full load, and around 28*C idle.
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    Karajen or SB X-Fi?

    You'd need good speakers though. what do you guys recommend? I read that the Logitech ZX5500 are great for 5.1. I wonder if 2.1 is dead - not sure how many people are willing to arrange that many speakers in a small room.
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    Karajen or SB X-Fi?

    This is weird - I installed the nVidia drivers, and my sound and eveyrthing is detected as nVidia's. However, once I installed the RealTek driver (whichi s also on DFI's website), the nVidia is complaining that the hardware is gone, but my sound still works fine. Instead of an nVidia sound card, it says its a Realtek 97. Seems like the Realtek driver took over. Which should I have done? Just used the nVidia's driver, or use Realtek's? I will probably go for an X-Fi MusicExtreme (dont need any extra breakout boxes) in the future, but not now (money is tighter, now that I got my rig together - even THAT I bought in pieces over a couple months, haha). So for reference for people who would use the onboard on a perm basis, which driver to use? Thanks for the replys so far.
  17. Probably testing it out first to see if they can recreate the issue.
  18. Hmm... I'm building from an NF4 Expert now (and plan on using the Karajen as my permanent sound solution) - I am interested in the development of this issue.
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    nF4 Memory Advice (updated 14/11/06)

    I'm trying my luck with the G.SKILL linked by Sharp here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16820231021 Though guaranteed at 250MHz, I also hope to hit as high as 270 MHz
  20. Thanks for the vid - will have to watch through the whole thing when I have time. I am also interested in the Expert Guide, as I just got mine in. I am waiting for my Thermalright SI-120 to come in before I start my build. YAY DFI!
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    Old school OC - resized

    I stand corrected. :tooth:
  22. I understand that there are rules, and I am sorry for not reading it (many forums, different rules, etc). But if you would have PMed me, I would have corrected it. Anyways, here's the smaller pic:
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    Old school OC - resized

    I have an old IBM PS2 8086 in the basement - I wonder if I can run at least Win95 just so i can bench it with Sandra.
  24. I see that the layout has been completely redone. Maybe it's me, but from screen shots, it looks like the Expert has way more tweakable BIOS options. Not sure of Monarch COmputers is reputable, but its around $200 there for the Expert, whichis also the same price as the nF4 SLI-DR (non-UT). Same price as Newegg (but Newegg does not offer the Expert). I guess it's anyone's choice. I may go for the Expert over the non-UT nF4 SLI-DR if the price is the same. I am worried about where the CPU slot is moved to, though - the Thermalright XP-90 overhangs a bit over the RAM on a traditional layout, but not so on the Expert. Also, for cases with a side fan and duct, the duct and fan combo won't be over the CPU area, since it moved forward. Edit: hmm... may be a good thing - HSF cools CPU, side fan/duct cools memory....
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    Old school OC - resized

    I did ran a few tests just not too long ago with SiSoft Sandra - It's between a Celeron 433 and a PIII-500. Memory bandwidth was around 107 MB/sec. BTW, it has a 4 GB HD, and with Win98, Office 2000, Norton Antivirus, Adobe Reader, all the updates, and about 25 MB of other stuff (MBM, HDTach, SiSoft Sandra, etc), it only used up around 1.2 GB, leaving a healthy 3.8 GB left.
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