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  1. Opps ... well there we go .... I didn't read Cobias email .... so the documentation is wrong ... it does work in 2 8x ... How odd .... Cobias ... what is your single and dual 3DMark06 score ?
  2. Hi guys The new PCI-E v2 cards will work on the DFI SLI-DR etc. I have an EVGA 8800GT KO running fine as said. There are rumours that future ones may not have backward compatibility - so in the months to come you'll have to check. What is clear though is that whilst these cards may not need the full x16 bandwidth, they will not (according to the docs - I've not checked) run in an 8x slot. So ... you can probably have an SLI rig with 2x 8800GTX each running happily in 8x slots ... but you CANNOT have 2 x 8800GTs because they will see they are in an 8x slot and error. If you are looking at doing SLI on these boards (that only support 1 16x or 2 8x) you CANNOT use 2 x 8800. I have one as mentioned, with an FX-60 and 2GB and I get just under 10,000 on 3DMark06 which seems like a really good result for an single card AMD rig. The only significantly faster rigs I've seen have been SLI ... I think the later Intel based boards also make a difference but the FX-60 seems to be up there from the 3DMark06 point view. I'd be interested to see what sort of 3DMark06 figures anyone with a GTS, GTX or Ultra have. Cheers Paul.
  3. Also .... card does block sata 3&4 so enabled Sil3114 for sata and stuck my third drive on sata5 ... all working fine. Paul
  4. Hi guys Asus was delayed so I got the above instead. It's 675Mhz instead of 700. Machine is now SLI-DR + 2GB OCZ + OCZ 700Watt + FX-60 with this card. 3dMark 05 is 14400 and 3d Mark 06 is 9641. All seems to be running fine. Can you let me know how these figures compare as it's a long time since I looked gfx performance. All ready for Crysis this xmas. cheers Paul
  5. Thanks guys Has anyone tried one yet - i.e. any 8800GT ? I'll let you all know what happens when mine arrives sometime after 7 December. Cheers Paul
  6. Hi guys I'm currently running an FX-60 with an Asus EAX1950Pro. I'd like to know what the PCI-Express version is on the SLI-DR. I'm about to get a Asus EN8800GT Top with is PCI-E 2.0 but apparently with compatibility with PCI-Express 1.1. Should it work in the SLI-DR ? Is the SLI-DR PCI-E 1.1 or 1.0 ? Cheers Paul.
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    In despair

    Hi guys I feel for anyone going through this. I've got huge experience with electronics and PC building like many here but it becomes almost impossible to determine the cause of issues like this without spares of everything. This is pretty much what I ended up having to do because DFI kept pointing at memory, gfx and PSU. Corsair kept saying - if it memtests it isn't memory. This makes the whole PC build experience very frustrating if you hit problems (which many do). Vendors shipping high end gear should provide simple and free or near free service to confirm their products fitness .... a couple of good (and surprising examples) are given below. Interestingly Asus in the UK were superb. They took my card back and sent it off to their repair centre. Interestingly they identified an issue with old BIOS and have updated it. I had decided it was the problem after all ... but it's nice to know they have found some problem and repaired it. CoolerMaster (Enermax) were by far and away the best though. They listened to the checks I made and said they would replace it with a NoiseTaker II. In the interim I had got a new Asus A8N SLI-Deluxe, new Asus EAX1950 Pro, new OCZ 2GB 500 EL memory, new FX-60, new Lian-Li PC-7 SE-B II case (high speed blowhole in top, 120mm intake on side, 120mm intake on front, 120mm exhaust on back), new OCZ 700W GamerXtream. Eventually this showed the memory was the cause and Corsair eventually accepted it and RMA'd it. I am now building a second machine with all the spare kit ! Corsair didn't have any more 4400 or any equivalent so they agreed to refund the original purchase price of the memory. I will hopefully get the cheque in the next few days. The DFI now has the OCZ mem, PSU, FX-60, new cooler case, EAX1950pro gfx. Temps are idle are all in the high 30s. With dual prime torture test (790 mb per core) CPU is circa 57, PWM is 60-63 and chipset 38. I've run the test for 18 hours without warning or error. Of course ... although the memory has clearly weakened, it could still be the motherboard that was the route cause of the problem. If the same problem happens in the mid term ... I think it will be clear the motherboard is killing the RAM. In the interim ... fingers crossed ... In your case ... talk to Melissa Duffy at Corsair support in the US. Say that since they cannot replace the memory with an equivalent anymore that you want a refund. Send it back. Buy some new OCZ from somewhere before stock runs out ... since memory prices have halved, you'll make a profit on the deal .... and have a really happy XMAS !! Paul.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Thanks Wevvspot. Location added to profile. PC7 SE II Black on it's way from Kustompcs.co.uk 1x 120mm intake at front 1x 120mm intake on side panel over PCI slots 1x 120mm exhaust at upper back 1x 80mm blowhole in top Hopefully that should suitably chill my hardware. Paul.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Got up this morning. PC still running prime torture test (768m per core) on both cores without error or warning. I stopped it at this point - 18 hours 2 minutes. Now to try and get Corsair to replace / refund the cost of the 4400 memory. I'm not looking forward to that battle. I'm going to get a new case to stick the SLI-DR in with the FX-60 and OCZ memory. I'll put my 'spares' into the existing case - 3500+, Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe, EAX850XTPE and what ever memory I end up with following my RMA. I've got the OCZ 700W GameXstream - I'll decide when the new case comes along which machine I'll put that in. The Noisetaker seems like it wasn't the problem. Cheers Paul. I've attached a piccie of the screen a couple of minutes before I stopped the tests. Shows temps and CPU etc.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Good man. Since changing the Corsair 4400c25 2x512 for OCZ 500 EB Platinum 2x1024 - I've dual primed for 8 hours without error. How long does it need to go before I can say it's prime stable ? Paul.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Hi Technodanvan The Lian-Li case is odd. It has a door at the front which means even if you have a bay convertor of which Lian-Li do several it will not be able to breathe. Also it has insulating material on all the panels which means cutting holes in them is a problem. I will keep the case for a lower powered system. I've bought so many spares recently - PSU, memory, cpu, motherboard - I'm nearly there. Wevsspot - I'm thinking of the Lian-Li pc-7 SE-B II - looks more conventional and has 120mm fans all over the place. Have a look at Kustompcs.co.uk and let me know what you think. Paul.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Cool So it'll melt at 300dc, get very unhappy if you put it in an oven > 150 dc, potentially have 'switching issues' beyond 125dc and certainly shouldn't be operated at > 150 dc or 'switching' will almost definitely be unstable and normal running ambient temp would be circa 70dc. This suggests that it's sensible upper limit operating threshold is between 70 and 125 dc which means it would be surprising if it would have problems at below 100 dc. Those thermal diagrams linked to suggest that ITE massively underestimates actual core temps - CPU etc ... This means when it says it 70dc it could actually be a lot more - perhaps 90 + Ohhhh .... I don't feel much further forward. Thanks for that though Wevsspot - reminds me of my applied maths course. Paul.
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    PWMIC threshold

    Thanks both So if the ITE is reporting circa 71dc for PWMIC ... this should not be an issue ? I'm going to work on further cooling (probably a new case :-()) anyway but it is comforting to know that these worst case sustained temps will not introduce stability issues. Cheers Paul.
  14. Hi guys I've just changed by Corsair TwinX1024 4400C25 memory for OCZ 4000 2048 Platinum. It's been running Prime for 4 hours 20 mins on both cores without issues at 3-3-2-8 1t, bank interleave enabled, 2.5v. Hopefully it'll still be running after another 15 hours or so. My real concern relates to PWMIC temperature stability thresholds. In my PC-V1100B (which is a stunning case - just not particularly clever for hot components because of the upside motherboard mounting, main extract fan at the bottom of the motherboard compartment and virtually all the intake cooling only hitting the lower compartment with the harddisks and PSU) - under normal conditions - 20 dc in the house - the PWMIC hits upwards of 65 (always less than 71). The CPU never goes over 55 and the chipset never over 42. During current testing, I'm running with the windows open and the case open on my desk - it is hitting 47/48 CPU, 55 PWMIC, 38 Chipset - but I'm loosing the feeling in my toes :-( Although I understand it is always best to make things as cool as possible, what is the max temperature you believe the PWMIC can sustain for long periods WITHOUT causing stability issues ? Cheers Paul.
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    Prime stability issues

    When central heating kicked in (pc on desk above radiator temps started to rise. Got as high as CPU 50, PWMIC 58, Chipset 41 ... I opened windows and turned off radiator .... dropped back to : CPU 47, PWMIC 55, chipset 39. Prime still running on both cores - 3 hours now ... running 20k ffts. Definitely need some more airflow than this PC-V1100 can provide. Problem is that there is a 120mm intake in a lower compartment that shoots air over 2 x 3 hdd bays. There is only a tiny hole over the top of the second set of bays for wires to go up to the main compartment. You then have the only exhaust fan at the bottom rear of that compartment. In short - very little new cool air coming in and sincel most hot air rises to top of motherboard compartment, the exhaust albeit 120mm is not that effective. Because the Lian-Li positions the motherboard 'upside down' the CPU is at the bottom and the gfx card at the top. I now have a 2x80mm bracket fan that sits in the space above and between the CPU and gfx card. Paul.
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