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  1. well im not the first person ive seen say that they cant install it but alot of what i see is user error. again i havent had a chance yet to try it cuz im messing around with linux which is even worse than trying to get this raid going haha damn nvidia drivers i cant believe suse 9.2 dont have nvidia network drivers installed by default. im trying to find Linux 64bit but all i can find is the Live cd. and as fast as that thing runs off the cd man o man i really want to try it off the hard drive just cant find it anywhere ggrr. anywho ill et you fellas know wht i get for raid results. another thing and maybe this is possibly cuz theboard is goofy. after post and then the screen that shows the devices and their resource setting, it says updating dmi pool and then the system reboots.... it usually only does this 1 time then boots normally. but not always it may reboot several times is this typical for overclocking on this motherboard or is this one of those bugs they havent fixed. ?
  2. i can use ghost but thats not the point fellas. if dfi made a board that dont like booting or installing on a set of raid drives then there is something wrong,, and the board is worthless. not tuly worthless of course but you know what i mean. ghosting it just so it will use raid is an EXTREME fix and DFI cant expect every tom dick and harry to have ghost or know how to use it. im doing other things at the moment but ill get back to trying the raid today and ill let you fellas know how it goes,, if i have to use ghost the board is getting rma'd
  3. ive been using intel for years and only in the last 4 months moved to amd 64 and i can tell you for a fact that the intel ichr5 is NOT native no its not you MUST MUST MUST install the sata drivers for both raid and non raid. i never messed with non raid much so i maybe remembering wrong but i know for 100% fact that the raid portion needs drivers at xp load. raid is never native to XP unless its some old ancient compaq array card or some other scsi. if you look at the drivers it loads then go to 2000 and look then go back to NT and look it loads nearly identicle drivers. M$ is lasy and hasnt updated their pre install environmental drivers for years and years. out of the 3 intel ICHR5 boards i had,, intel MSI and asus none of them would work unless you isntalled the drivers. as you yourself said raid is not native and forces you to isntall a driver for it. thats why they have the boot floppies for those controllers, not just for older OS's but for XP also. anyways im gunna mess around a bit and see what i can come up with but if it wont work then im done with this board. at this point i thin im more interested in figuring out my best settings for all those lovely Dram frequency settings. but god knows how ill do that since even OCZ dont have a white sheet that i found for this ram to list the proper timings that this board offers. and unfortunately im unable to get the chip above 2.55ghz was hoping this board would really let me go for broke and take her higher than the asus but i guess not
  4. 10/15 beta modded bios the one with memtest 86 in it and the 4v vdimm JSJ-A15.bin
  5. none of my stuff is via only nvidia or intel id never use via yuck! well i really needed to load these raptors as raid so im not sure why it wont work but im a little upset bout the whole deal...
  6. ok now this is new to me.... when using the nvidia sata as SATA ONLY not raid,.. you dont need ot install the nvidia drivers. i saw another person mention this about the chaintech nforce 4 board and i told him and also had UncleBob a senior member over at pcperspective back me up that if you used the onbaord sata you need to load the drivers.. but now i see why it wasnt seeing the drives.... i was actually using the nvidia driver floppy and you dont need to..... when did nvidia start this ?? again this is the limitation of my knowledge with the nvidia sata cuz i never use it i always use the 2nd set of sata controllers. does nvidia have the sata set up to be seen as a native ide controller ?? cuz we already know that windows dont have any SATA drivers built in... wow ya learn something new everyday i guess
  7. ya know what i will try that xp cd thing cuz ya know ive seen that crazy thing happen before where 1 cd didnt work but another did, and that just comes down to the media xp is on or "burnt" to. the cdrom is reading it and the data is being corrupted. ok now first and formost i want to correct you RGone on VERY important statement you made. and please correct me if i misread or misunderstood what you said. now nforce or intel it dont matter, the NATIVE controller, again dont matter intel or nforce. the NATIVE sata controller is the one sata controller you dont want to use if your overclocking. why ? becuase the native controller is NOT part of the pci/agp lock. it of course is on its own bus and only a very few motherboards out there include an SATA lock in the bios. now that being said ever since sata came out the motherboards that include a secondary controller like Silicon image or Promise or Marvell. Those secondary SATA controller ARE part of the pci bus and thus they ARE part of the pci/agp lock. being part of the lock their frequency is locked at 100mhz. (now correct me on that part but im sure its 100mhz). its been the rule of the overclocking industry that you NEVER use the intel or nvidia SATA controller when you overclock simply because unless you have a SATA lock in your bios,, when you overclock 9/10th of the time, the sata bus will increase or will increase once you pass 230-235mhz on the fsb. now i have heard various results about the onboard SATA controller. but this is the first board i believe ive seen call the nvidia sata controller ports 3 and 4 they are usually 1 and 2. and the non native extra sata controller are 3 and 4 my ASUS KN8-E deluxe and my VNF3-250 are the same way you need to use the secondary NON-native or external SATA ports in order to achieve overclocks past 230mhz without getting hard drive data corruption. now since this is my first DFI board,, did DFI make it the oposite ? the NVidia SATA controller is actually locked ? and the secondary ports ie 1 and 2 are NOT locked past 230 mhz. another option my MSI intel board had was the SATA was only locked if you enabled SATA on all controllers and the controller had to be either PATA + SATA or or SATA with raid enabled. i know it sounds wierd and all makers make them differently but across theboard the nvidia controller isnt thesata port of choice. now i maybe wrong with this dfi.. is so tell me ok now down to the nitty gritty. this board has some serious issue with ANY sata drive hooked to the Nvidia controller RAID or not.... im having a hell of a time getting it to recognise the disks,, i can now get past the windows is starting screen but all it does is say windows did not see any hard drives, and yes im installing the nvidia floppy drivers. i have no clue what the devil is going on but iof i cant get it going tommorrrow (my day off) im returning it. or RMA'ing it. i was getting a stable 2,5ghz with this same hardware on my ASUS i just wanted more dram options as the asus is a turd for dram, min voltage is only 2.7v and there are no other options. this board on the other hand has so much stuff on it i have no bloody clue what to do with them and infact OCZ dont even have any info on their website to help be set the best settings for this PC4000 EL Gold Rev 2. I even added my Promise fastrak S150 tX2 PCI sata controller and it wont see the drives when i use it thats [email protected]#$!% up!! cuz all my other boards ive used this with see the controler and the drives fine raid or not when i load the drivers on XP boot. this motherboard only sees the drives in the bios when the drives are in raid mode when i use that card. its REALLY wierd.
  8. EDIT!!!! This I do know. It does not have to be raid for the ports 1/2 to exhibit corruption so I would surely use 3/4 if you plan to surpass 235/240FSB. WHAT!!! ??? the external SATA is prone to drive corruption after 235mhz WOW this is the first mobo that uses a non nvidia secondary controller that shows corruption on the nonnvidia side. wow... hhmm maybe ill go back to using my pci card.... yeah i think i will... thats better anyways i can OC as much as a darn well please when i use that....
  9. RGone - Thanks for the think but there is nothing in that thread that i dont already know and nothing that i havent done for the last 2 years ever since i got my first SATA drives. so,, in short aside from the crappy nvidia controller or crappy cables,, been there done that... but thanks again for that link it a well formatted and greatly appreciated thread. thank you for informing me about the times you have seen bad SATA cables. i will try my other ones when i get home. i still think its bull poo that dfi has made this motherboard this long and hasnt fixed this issue. UNLESS its a problem with the latest revision. then ok give them time to work it out. hey does the floppy that comes with the mobo have drivers for the other sata ports ?? if not WHY NOT!!! when overclocking i NEVER use the native onboard sata i always use my pci sata card or the external onboard sata.. the native sata is not part of the pci/agp lock and there for is subject to the woe's of overclocking. anyways,, thanks again for the info ill dig around and pull everything out and see that happens.
  10. 3/4 is the nvidia sata and yes im on 3/4 cables are brand new from dfi and also other ones ive tried. so another question would be why wouldnt i be able to use ports 1/2 ??? technically the nvidia sata ports are not part of the pci bus and are subject to the problems with overclocking where as the other sata controller is part of the pci bus. and thus falls into the agp/pci bus lock seems pretty foolish if i cant even use raid.... but i have about 4 pairs of sata cables i ll go thru and try it out. does this board have issues with the nvidia sata controller when installing windows as raid 0 ?? cuz i have 2 other nforce 3 250gb motherboards and neither one has a problem.
  11. i saw another post were a guy couldnt start XP eother when the drives were RAID wtf ?? i mean come on what is up with that ???? does the marvell controller do this also ?? marvell why dont that sound right ? is that the name of it ? lol.... if i cant run these drives in raid i mean this baord is worthless to me.... sort of lol....
  12. i have to chime in on this issue since i have something similar. when i get to the screen that says "Starting Windows" when booting to the XP cd. i dont get any error, my bloody machine just shuts off. since i am only using 2 sata raptors, actually i have over a terabyte of drives, but i shouldnt have to bloody use another drive. i should be able to load up and set the drives as raid and load XP not go thru all this. my ASUS KN8-E took the raid and also my chaintech VNF3-250 worked fine with raid. if this is the way DFI operates then wow!!! how did this board ever get the high marks it has. anyways,, 2 single raptors arent much slower than if they were raid so i suppose i could load it up as single drives then ghost the partition then raid them and ghost it....... but thats alot more work and thats impossible for many people to do.... is this only with the nvidia sata or does the marvell sata do this too ???
  13. ok fellas got my LP UT 250GB yesterady and today i installed it and i got past a huge list of issues i was having by updating to the october beta bios that has memtest in it and the 4v vdimm mod. now whenever i boot up to the xp cd and try to format and load the system just shuts off. thats it..... sometimes my keyboard light even stays on ??? why ?? hhmm ok it goes thru the process of loading all the scsi drivers and such and when it gets to the part where it says "Starting Windows" the system just shuts off. i have tried bios defaults, and everything i can think of and nothing is working the only thing i hvent ried is using the marvell SATA and i dont have a marvell SATA disk wasnt that wonderful of DFI to put the marvell controller on the board and not include the drivers ?? oh dont you love that. ok so to the best of my technical knowledge there are two things that happen when windows cd says "starting windows" 1. it re-initialises the video card 2. it initialises the hard drives to check for previous installs so... what do you gents think. have any of you gents seen this ?? is there a fix ?? and are the marvell drivers anywhere i didnt even see them on the dfi website.. oh i also had this issue with the defualt bios the board came with. im gunna have to yank all the hardware out including mobo and see whats up and reput it in but intil then please post if this sounds familiar to you.
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