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  1. just a suggestion, I just wrote up a post on the SI97A, now I had some clearance issues with this HSF, you might want to read it, and maybe include it as a known concern/issue, it might help the next fellow out

    Im gonna try and get pics asap




    also, I have been told by a few people, Shinobi and Playah to mention two of them ;) that UTT BH and these boards dont seem to play nicely together, in your mem section you might want to add that potential sistah users stay away from UTT BH stuff, a look at OCZs page on thier Gold 3200 stuff that uses UTT BH even has a disclaimer as well not recommended for Nforce2 based systems, my Mushkin UTT BH dont want to seem to do squat either, so I wish I had known this before hand, anyways, just a few update suggestions from me, primo work on the FAQ by the way

  2. Greetings all, you probably have read my post asking about the ThermalRight SI97A. I have a few things to report with about this and the Ultra Infinity, also would apply to its twin sistah, the LP B.


    Ok, first off, this is my first experience with ThermalRight, Panaflo and AS Ceramique. All I can say is wow, totally blown away with the build and packaging quality of the HS. The panaflo fan too must be the most non cheap feeling fan I have ever laid hands or eyes on. Pics off the web didnt do this stuff justice until in hand and in operation. For 54 dollars, Im very happy with the purchase. Let me get into the details. Sadly my DigiCam is on the fritz or I would have pics, Ill try and get ahold of a DigiCam soon to provide a few stills of this biatch :)


    Well, to begin with, in this board when installing theres no clearance between the 4 heat pipes and the printer/coaxial/serial IO port. It actually pushed it out just a tad, nothing too major for now, but I have this out in the open, once installed in the case and with the I/O shield in place who knows if this will be a problem, Ill try and reinstall later in my Super Lanboy and report back if this will be an issue. This also means my 120 rear case fan might get in the way too, again Ill report when I know something.


    Over to the other side, the benefit of the NB HS and the mosfets near the socket are getting vital airflow now, this is where I think Ill benefit as well by making this swap. Not only having the HS over the NB one, it puts its right over the edge of the 20 pin connection on the board. Now those with typical 20 pin connectors off thier PSU might not have an issue, I do since Im using Ultras Xconnect. If your using one as well and have this board and HS, you will be also in the same boat. I found its best to have this cable removed first, install the sink carefully being mindful of the back IO first, get the sink in place and and then worry about the included clip. Also this came with a copper shim, I so advise not forgetting this as the clip is very strong, I had to really push with the screwdriver on this one. The provided groove is cut in such a way that getting the clip holes over the socket lugs and having it line up in the groove and also not rubbing against the IO port was very tricky, its doable but tricky. Once its in place it is not going any where. ;) When using the ultra PSU connection, you have to go in at an angle, very carefully get it as close to 90 degrees as you can and push it in. its about what Id say 88 degrees to the board, its in but just barely. This pushes on the outermost fin of the HS but doesnt seem to affect it at all. This is whole clearance thing is what I wanted to make people aware of if your using an Xconnect. Because my case is extremely small, Im also concerned the top of the sink and the PSU might be right against each other, again Ill have to report back to that once I have something to report.


    Ok, so with that out of the way, lets get to the temps. All I can say is wow. 30 to 32c for the past hour with my AC cycling on and off set at 78F. So the ambient is around 78 to 80 Id say. The thermaltake would at best do 38c with the AC set to the same and that was with the Fan at full speed, and remember I had lapped that biatch to 2000 grit and used AS5. This SI97A has a Panaflow HB1 on top, I chose it over the slower LB1 as I wanted some OC headroom if I could obtain it. I also ordered some AS ceramique as I have never tried it and so Im getting these 30/32c temps with that. I am impressed. Not only is it not with the Silver, but its quieter too. I would run the Volcano fan at half speed during the night when it was a bit cooler and even this thing at its full speed is a bit less noisy than that Volcano at half speed. Very nice. Im glad I chose the HB1 instead. Im gonna probably spread some Silver on there later on to see what if any it might do for me. BTW the base of the HS wasnt too bad, a few machine marks, maybe Ill even consider lapping this puppy as well, but right now its looking like it might not be worth the effort.


    Well, given the tight clearances I would have to say anyone with the sistahs considering one of these might want to just keep a few of these things in mind. If your case is a smaller mid tower that puts the PSU pretty low and close to the top of the board, its gonna be an even tighter fit. Im afraid the 120 fan, even a 92 and or a 80 rear case exhaust mounted internally might also interfere with the heatpipes that rub right up against the back IO ports. You might have to mount externally as I may also have to do, again Ill update as I discover these things. Holding the 120 above the area in question doesnt look promising :( Other than that, FWIW its giving me an 8 to 10 degree drop in temps right now. This could prove useful towards overclocking efforts. I like to keep it well under 50 and now I can give it another shot at more than 1.7 for that 2.5 or maybe even more hopefully.


    So that means one of 2 things for me, better RAM and a different PSU with a more traditional 20 pin connector. Or an A64 board and start a whole new set of possible clearance conflicts since this will also mate up with an A64 board.


    That brings me to that little detail. I know alot of you were interested in how this mates up to the A64, well without an A64 board to play with Ill just describe best I can what was included. They send a retention clip much simliar to the Stock one or so from what I have seen of pics of the stock HSF off the web. Its got the 3 hole clip much like the Socket A, but it has a swinging lock ARM like the stock type clip. On this HSF base, unlike the orginal SI97 theres a hole drilled on the top for matching up the A64 clip. This clip has a bar across between the 2 socket lug clips and has a plastic bar that drops down in the middle from the bar into this drilled hole. Now right away I was hoping for a 4 hole mounting shim and 4 screws and washers meaning the possibility of a naked non IHS a64 down the road possibly. The only other consideration for a naked A64 I had was that since this rod is plastic and just snaps in, one could get ahold of a similar plastic rod of a longer length and or maybe a wood dowel would do the trick, or maybe a few dimes or pennies, anything to create the additional length of the deleted IHS and just screw it in from the top. Now I would suggest a dowel or a longer plastic piece of the same diameter so that it drops into the drilled hole. If you use Dimes or pennies it would work, but the sink could slip some or come off completely maybe and that might not be good, the rod or dowell hole insures it cant slip off, I guess you would just have to look at it and see what I am talking about. So there you have it, I hope that clears up anyones questions on the A64 mounting. Very much like the stock retention from what I can tell.


    All I can say again is wow, I have never ever in my life seen my CPU temp less than my system temp :) I wish I knew where that temp is taken, I was hoping the NB with the additional air its getting would drop that temp but its holding at 35c, no difference there, it seems to be embedded in the SB, Ill maybe get that Expoy stuff later on and see if it can do better than that thermal tape on the SB. But for now its good enough for me.


    Thanks for reading this long and unprofessional review. I just felt that the tight clearances were definately worth mentioning to sistahs owners. One thought that has crossed my mind is maybe a 20 to 24 pin adapter could work here, as it would be more flexible than the big ol Ultra connector, and the 4 pins on the 24 pin side would just be unplugged, theoretically it could work. I might try and obtain one just to see what if any it does and Ill report back if it can relieve the pressure on the IO port and the outer fin any.


    So in conclusion, for my 54 dollars, Im very impressed. Quieter. Cooler. Looks damn good too :) oh, did I mentiong it mates up with the A64 too, very cool for the dude hanging onto Socket A looking towards the future. In the words of a certain Sith Lord


    "Impressive, Most Impressive" ;)


    Any comments or additional questions greatly appreciated and Ill try and get a DigiCam over here to add pictures to my above statements for reference.


    Cheers all. Time to utilize the temp headroom and see about Ocing this thing. I forsee a long night.



  3. yes sir it did and I wouldnt recommend skipping that step, Im going to start a new thread as theres some VERY IMPORTANT Sistah's issues I think people should be aware of and as courtesy I shall want them right at the top of the post


    Ill let this thread die so please no more responses to this post and please READ the new one, Ill provide a link here as soon as I have it done in a few mins.


    Cheers all

  4. Time for an update, the SI97A has arrived :) Its the first experience for me with a Thermalright product and just the way this was packaged I was impressed. Very good sturdy plain brown box, with the good stuff closed cell foam, its essentially just like the SI97 with the original Socket A clip. The difference between the A revision and the first SI97 is that thermalright has drilled just a small hole on the top of the heatpipe base and included a clip retention bracket resembling the stock AMD lock down type for the A64 socket types. It will utilize the existing DFI socket lockout area retention bracket. So that means you dont have to remove anything off the mobo, just grease, seat, and a swing the clip handle into place, you can swap the stock HSF if your still using it for this without mobo removal out of the case. The bad part as I was hoping it might have some sort of 4 hole pattern screws is that if you intend to remove the IHS it might not make good enough contact with the top of the chip. Now I guess if your creative you might be able to put a small object, im thinking a penny or a dime, or even a nickel as a shim for the difference? Without an A64 board yet and without having a non IHS chip Im just speculating there. Ok, back to what I have, the Ultra Infinity. Well I need to shutdown and install this Biatch :)


    Ill update as soon as I have it installed and up and running. BTW also my first hands on with a Panaflo fan, so far Im impressed with this as well. Ok, Ill report back as soon as its in place. I think Ill only be looking at Thermalrights in the future if this puppy works out. Wish me luck

  5. quick question, with these dually cores do you set values for both concurrently in the bios, ie in the bios its just like you would be keying in parameters with a single core or do you get individual control of each core? about the IHS thing, if some dont make good contact and you were not even considering OCing to begin with, wouldn't it still make smart sense to remove the lid to ensure good contact, I would think flush contact would increase life expetcancy oced or not, I have been working with Athlons since the first Tbirds and have yet to crack or chip a core, once this lids off I would think its the same process as if you were using the 4 mouting holes around a socket a chip, if you just take your time, follow the steps carefully whats the concern? I would think theres more chance for a mishap getting the lid off, once thats off it should be just like mounting an exposed core XP right?

  6. the local pharmacist told me she could order the stuff to the tune of 5 dollars and so Im sure any pharmacy will probalby tell you the same, I would assume since its a medical product that it would not contain anything toxic that could harm the cpu, the lady said yes that other people do utilize it as a general adhesive as well as for medical purposes, she said because stuff like goop off and the like have chemical solvents in them, this stuff wont destroy plastic and stuff, so I would think its not gonna melt the cpu either, otherwise it would melt your skin right?

  7. shoot, Im gonna register a domain name, get some sort of hosting as cheap as I can going and start one of these review sites, I shall call it DFIoverclockers.com or something like that :) and once I convince all the companies to send me free gear to review, Ill kiss butt all the way to this award ;) Ill give AG a run for the freebie gear money LMAO


    so REGAZ, you can send that 7800 for review right away :) Ill talk it up better than anybody else ;)

  8. guitar is the most common :) cool thing about learning bass was you can find a gig with just about anything though LOL, I just dont have the time to commit to anything, I wouldn't mind learning some other stuff, like anything, time and money, you can always make the time but not nessecarily the money sometimes :(

  9. Theres nothing wrong with an accordion, or violin, or anything like that, I have come to appreciate all styles of music, I developed a greater appreciaton for musicians in general when I started to play guitar thinking oh yea this is gonna be easy and wow, boy did I find out its not so easy as I thought. Then when I have on occasion tried playing with others, its not easy trying to stay on the same page with everyone else, now when I hear a symphony I think wow, for that many people to come together and play as a whole, its pretty amazing to me, and I realized that back when I would say uggh, classical, how boring now I can really dig it, its not like my old only Hard Rock days was cool LOL :) hey classicals cool when you hear satch or vai play bethoven, its actually neat cause I never thought of spitting that out on the electric way back when ;)

  10. See the sig :) yep, I used to have quite a few guitars, damn ebay ;) but my most current by far the most favorite to day is the Ibanez Joe Satriani. :) I only have the JS100, thier cheaper Korean made version but if I could come up with the money, I would so buy the Made in Japan JS 1000 one :) FWIW the JS 100 aint a bad little axe, once I got to work setting up to my tastes, its been great. I loved the strats, but start messing around with the trem and forget it, retuning time :), the Mexi one wasnt too bad build wise, the Squiers leave alot to be desired, I also had a very nice Epiphone, and a few good Washburns in the past, also had a couple of Acoustics from Ibanez and one from a company called Sonata, you can only get them from Brook Mays Music Group stores, my local store being H and H, a sister company of thiers. For a quote no name guitar, I found out its made by Samick with thier house brand on it, its a great guitar, in fact its been my Favorite acoustic :) I also dabbled with Bass for a while, had a Oscar Schmidt, a Precisicion, and a Fretless Jazz :) why I sold that one I still dont know what I was thinking :( but finally acquired the JS, and its the most comfortable and sweetest sounding guitar I have ever owned. The Floyd Rose is a pain to change strings with and get it setup, but once I tweaked it out it stays in tune and I can hit that bar all day long and it returns right back to correct pitch, Im happy with it. Hehehehe, we should get a DFI-Street band going, that would be cool :) I turned to computers, thats about as bad as collecting and selling Guitars ;) too bad I dont have as good of a job as I used to, its probably good, keeps me from upgrading too much, also curtailed my guitar hobby. I realized I only needed one good instrument, not several at a time considering its a hobby, I dont gig with a band.

  11. http://www.altex.com/product_info.php?products_id=3824


    Is a good cheap Multimeter, its small but does a pretty good job. I picked one up recently and its telling me exactly what the softwares been reporting, so all seems to be accurate on my setup, I dont know how much they will want to ship it but these guys are a good local company and when I dont want to buy something online and wait a few days for it, this is where I head over to. Just a suggestion thats all, I know Sears Craftsman's brand of products are good, most people in the States have a Sears somewhere nearby if they are in the urban areas, a good hardware store or a super center like Home Depot or Lowes would also have something, if your overseas I cant suggest where to tell you to go but a Multimeter is a good investment and worth hunting one down

  12. i buy and sell guitars on the bay all the time, without a hitch, i also bought this infinity off the bay, FWIW its my lack of the knowing the bios well enought to tweak it out right and not having the best selection of ram is holding me back, once I got the board to post its been pretty solid, and I have bought alot of other things off the bay as well. I have also sold alot, I always start my auctions at 1 dollar, and I never place a reserve :) I also dont inflate shipping costs and try to estimate to the nearest whole dollar what it will be, if it winds up costing me more then it eats into my profits. If it costs less I always reimburse the seller the difference. In fact I just sold another Ibanez a while back and guessed it would be 25 dollars to ship, wound up costing me 45 because the winning bidder lived further away than I had anticipated. So I lost 20 dollars, oh well. There are good sellers still out there. Theres also plenty bad ones. I have been burnt a few times. Its all part of the gamble.

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